"Toxic" masculinity

iainmf · 2018-03-11T19:29:08+00:00

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das_superbus · 2018-03-11T17:32:04+00:00

Throw it back at them, use the term weak femininity. I.e., "The only thing keeping you back is weak femininity"

japsock · 2018-03-11T16:03:38+00:00

toxic just means "i dont like something about someone or something" (in other words the term is fucking useless) and masculinity is so fucking subjective you'll never find two people who agree on what it is.

conclusion is that anyone arguing over this fucking term is retarded, no matter which side you are on

Ted8367 · 2018-03-11T19:44:24+00:00

Foetid femininity. Manipulative femininity (contains "man" though). Victimcentric femininity. Feefee femininity. None of these terms disparaging women of course; they're just technical descriptions for particular social conditions. Never heard of them? ... then you're ignorant and need educating. I'm sure a university could start a course or two for modest fees, or feefees.

Meyright · 2018-03-11T18:03:56+00:00

I 100% agree with you that using "toxic masculinity" is toxic. But...

does that mean that men cannot talk about women's issues, because we "have absolutely no idea what being ~~masculine~~ feminine is like" too? I disagree with that. Women can talk about mens issues and the other way around. Understanding what others go through is called empathy, humans are capable of doing that. Calling something "toxic masculinity" is not ~~empathic~~ empathetic though.

JStheHammer · 2018-03-11T16:02:09+00:00

It is feminine that is toxic. Women project.

Elvick · 2018-03-12T12:08:37+00:00

Most people do not support these divisive concepts from feminism, even if they tacitly support other things feminists do. These things are why the general public dislike the term "feminist". They aren't aware of the worse things they do.

So, I do not subscribe to use of this term and never will. It's a stupid term used to simply dismiss men's issues as "men's fault" and to blame men and masculinity for all bad things in the world. And to falsely claim they "support men's issues" by opposing it. "If we get rid of toxic masculinity, it'll help men's problems!" Since they blame men's problems on it and 'patriarchy'. So the only way to help men is to get rid of this term that is ill defined and is whatever is convenient at any given time.

Title	"Toxic" masculinity
Author	vrblpolushin
Upvotes	36
Comments	13
Date	March 11, 2018 3:48 PM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/83ngqc/toxic_masculinity/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/toxic-masculinity.1178981 https://theredarchive.com/post/1178981

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