What do you guys hate about feminism?

fengpi · 2019-05-20T01:58:01+00:00

Its rampant intellectual dishonesty, hypocrisy, double-standards, illiberal tendencies and presumptions of guilt.

And now comes the reply "But but but it's all about equality though!"

If only it was about equality, you innocent child.

runner557 · 2019-05-20T02:02:01+00:00

Feminists claim its about equality when it's not.

Tamriels_okayest · 2019-05-20T02:30:05+00:00

It turns all men into villains and all women into victims.

2019-05-20T04:34:18+00:00

All of it. Abortion, child support, false rape accustions, "wAgE gAp", female superiority, and worst of all, claiming to be fighting for equality.

RapeMatters2 · 2019-05-20T02:17:54+00:00

For me personally it is the rape coverup. Listening to feminist rhetoric, you’d think only men do the raping.

In point of fact, depending on which CDC report you go by, 1/3 to 1/2 of adult rape victims every year are men raped by women. As a man raped by a woman, the feminist rhetoric serves to protect my rapist from awareness and being taken seriously.

Basically, it’s that the movement, as a whole, protects rapists - security via obscurity. I hate movements that protect rapists.

gavin-neary · 2019-05-20T02:20:05+00:00

I personally dislike the part of it that is ironically sexist an example, a male dominated workplace for them is a problem but a female dominated one isn’t then there’s the genocide on men people or the whole men having to pay for children they didn’t want or the feminists that think “manspreading” is a problem

nforne · 2019-05-20T06:04:29+00:00

Its hypocrisy.

When talking about jobs or the wage gap, feminists claim that the only possible explanation for why men outperform women is oppression and "patriarchy". They ignore and attack any evidence that contradicts this standpoint (see James Damore). https://thefederalist.com/2017/08/08/read-the-google-diversity-memo-that-that-everyone-is-freaking-out-about/

It would be logical therefore, if there are no differences between the sexes, to expect feminists to also seek equality in the judicial system.

But no. Here, feminists fully accept that men and women are different, and that men should be locked up at a much higher rate. They claim that prison is no place for a woman and have successfully campaigned to close women's prisons in Scotland (see Baroness Jean Corston who wrote The Corston Report, and the group Women In Prison which, incidentally, refuses to employ men). https://www.stylist.co.uk/life/women-prison-uk-deaths-feminist-issue-inquest-report-jean-corston/204505

TL;DR... Feminism has many tools at its disposal to solve problems. It doesn't care about using them consistently, it simply picks the tool that gives the best outcome for women.

Photonaria · 2019-05-20T08:05:25+00:00

1) It's manipulative, deceptive and full of lies and hypocrisy. They intentionally skew data, misrepresent statistics supposedly for equality, but equality already exists in most places they do it. Military entry requirements are equal, but they want lower for women. Women in retail make equal pay to men, but not the men who do an entirely different job in the warehouse, they want that level pay without that level work.. for women only. That's not equality, that's privilege and they are intentionally lying to try and get it. It's basically fraud. the recent no uterus-no opinion garbage is trying to deny men the fundamental right to an opinion. everyone has the right to an opinion, regardless of how normal or extreme it is. They claim to want equality, but not the kind of equality that puts us equal. It's a seriously delusional concept. They're cherry picking what they want. They want equal pay (average lifetime earnings), but they don't want to put in the work to get it. They want to abolish gender roles that don't suit them, while reinforcing the ones they benefit from.

2) They have a pathetic & immature approach to issues. Take this abortion ban for example, they are choosing to ignore the women involved in making it happen, and instead target ALL men, despite most men surveyed being in support of abortions being legal. Angry tweets attacking all men isn't going to get anywhere. I know them promoting male genital mutilation was a satirical tweet, but it's a pathetic approach to have. It's not going to fix anything and it's contributing to the already diminishing credibility of feminism. I'm not mad about them attacking us, it just irritates me because there genuinely is a problem here, but to fix a problem you need to understand the problem, and by attacking us instead of focusing on the cultural and political issues that allowed this to happen, you are just letting the problem exist. This happens almost any time there's a problem that effects women, instead of working on a solution they just find a way to twist the story to make every single man on the planet seem evil. Like some random 70 year old guy in Tawain is partially to blame from some girl in America getting raped because he's the same gender /s. It makes them look childish and irresponsible and hard to take seriously. I know the All Men thing is cliche at the moment, but there is a genuine truth to it. They inherently hate us despite most men, while not identifying as feminist, support actual equality.

3) They're almost impossible to reason with. I'm always down for having a fair, rational and open debate, but in many years I've only found a few feminists who are able to do the same. It almost always ends up in a "who's the biggest victim" competition. (Basically *your issues are irrelevant because ours are worse"). Whenever you make a good point they'll either accuse you of mansplaining or sexism but mostly they'll try to change the topic. Apparently because I'm a white male I know no suffering, and no matter what they'll always try to downplay men's issues. Also, it's very difficult for us to even talk about issues that effect us, because they love to chime in with the victim card and try and claim the victim trophy. They get real defensive about holding the #1 victim spot but don't actually seem to be doing much to try and fix that.

4) It's genuinely toxic as fuck. I've seen some pretty concerning things on feminist subreddits, one prime example is how they actually promote false rape allegations. There's been quite a few comments I've seen in recent months promoting it and the amount of up-votes they get is simply shocking. Our hands aren't clean either, there's a fair share of different views here but in most cases the extreme gets down voted and disagreed with. Feminist groups on the other hand, the more you hate men the more you fit in there.

5) They're destructive as hell too. They actually support and protect women who molest children (teachers, position of trust) by saying arguing that "the boy probably enjoyed it!. The same applies for false rape allegations like I already mentioned, anything that damages men, they find a way to justify and normalize it. If not taken that far, they'll still always sympathize with that person.

On of the things to really factor is feminism, which is supposed to be a platform for women, is actually denounced and rejected by so many women globally because of sheer counterproductive mess it has become. So many women, and/or former feminists have spoken out against feminism. They are the ones really worth listening to.

I'd write more but I'm way too tired to think right now, so sorry if not much came across correctly. but I'll leave you with one bit of advice, if you want to get a feminist to stop complaining about gender roles, just ask the waiter for the bill ;) There's an absolute mountain of reasons to disagree with feminism, they practically give us multiple every day. The best method for your research would be just spend time with them. You'll see why just by watching.

5th_Law_of_Robotics · 2019-05-20T12:13:43+00:00

The bigotry, dishonesty, refusal to acknowledge criticism or allow discussion with anyone who doesn't already entirely agree, the outright dismissal of objective reality, the hypocrisy, and so on.

DJ-Roukan · 2019-05-20T12:49:10+00:00

Everything.

Hope that helps.

IEatzCookies · 2019-05-20T01:36:55+00:00

Everything.

AEHIILRS · 2019-05-20T19:43:32+00:00

The support for genocide.
The support for genital mutilation.
The opposition to reproductive rights.

14b755fe39 · 2019-05-20T20:58:13+00:00

I don't hate all feminism/feminist, they are a necessary force in the developing world but they do nothing for Men.

DavidByron2 · 2019-05-20T21:20:06+00:00

It's a hate movement that lobbies (successfully) for anti-male discrimination and prejudice.

fagbagmcgee7 · 2019-05-21T00:27:54+00:00

Dude stop spamming this

Win9000xxl · 2019-05-22T13:20:59+00:00

The misandry, the fact that they choose to give every possible right to women in 1st world countries (ignoring men) while kids and ladies die and get abused on the daily in countries like India or in the middle east

UUUU__UUUU · 2019-05-20T01:50:14+00:00

it's for a school assignment

Do your assignment.

parranna · 2019-05-20T01:29:41+00:00

Goes to a one sided site to get info for a report? Shouldn’t you be asking a bunch of different people? To like get a better grade?

antifafucknazis · 2019-05-20T01:34:02+00:00

absolutely nothing. why would i hate a movement that empowers women? you must be some sort of misogynist

Title	What do you guys hate about feminism?
Author	CrayonBoycot
Upvotes	5
Comments	44
Date	May 20, 2019 1:12 AM UTC (7 years ago)
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