When "not guilty" is still guilty, sorta

SpanishGuy · 2013-06-11T02:02:54+00:00

Regarding Presumption of innocence in UK:

The Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms of the Council of Europe says (art. 6.2): *"Everyone charged with a criminal offence shall be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law"*. This convention has been adopted by treaty and is binding on all Council of Europe members. Currently (and in any foreseeable expansion of the EU) every country member of the European Union is also member to the Council of Europe, so this stands for EU members as a matter of course. Nevertheless, this assertion is iterated verbatim in Article 48 of the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union.

Ma99ie · 2013-06-11T00:58:37+00:00

"...His accuser, now a 34-year-old ballet dancer, said he had been left emotionally distraught..."

Uh, huh.

Quarkster · 2013-06-11T00:28:11+00:00

The distinction between not guilty and innocent is long-standing in the legal system. Criminal courts don't find defendants innocent, they presume them to be innocent unless it is found otherwise.

I'm not sure whether the judge was trying to make some sort of point of saying this, or if the article is simply focusing on something that happens in every case.

mister_ghost · 2013-06-11T03:24:24+00:00

This really isn't shocking. "Not guilty" just means that the prosecutor can't prove guilt. Basically, the judge is saying this:

"There's not enough evidence to prove that this did happen, so no one will be punished. That doesn't mean that no assault happened, and it doesn't mean that you are a liar in the eyes of the law."

Why the judge chose to say this is anyone's guess, but they're 100% correct.

literallyschmiteraly · 2013-06-11T09:45:28+00:00

Jesus fucking Christ.

Title	When "not guilty" is still guilty, sorta
Author	Ted8367
Upvotes	20
Comments	36
Date	June 11, 2013 12:15 AM UTC (13 years ago)
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