Why are Fathers Hated so Much?

fgrsentinel · 2019-05-27T02:58:55+00:00

Part of it's because of the feminist movement vilifying men. Another part of it, possibly more ingrained and harder to deal with, is the fact that children that grow up without a father and are told that their father doesn't care for them or want anything to do with them (or, worse, their father's there but he's abusive) will grow up bitter at everyone who had a complete family with a loving father and pass the belief on to their kids.

In a way it's a vicious cycle: feminists paint men as dangerous to be around and women as loving caregivers; courts decide that, in spite of the evidence to the contrary, the mother is almost always the better choice in custody hearings; mother feeds her kids lies to parrot to the court to make an easy win a guaranteed victory; father is forced to pay child support he might not be able to afford; fathers that are bled dry by child support are branded "deadbeats" by media that doesn't care about anything beyond their own ratings and agenda; daughters that grew up miserable without a father and a head full of their mothers' lies turn to feminism.

DominusSphinx · 2019-05-27T02:59:24+00:00

Well i can think of 2 reasons, first is cause fathers are male and everyone is hating on males these days, the other reason is to make it seem like single mothers are not screwing up their kids by not having a father figure

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NEETwithAchainsaw · 2019-05-27T04:06:56+00:00

Fathers are so important! He might not be my biological father but my dad has always been one of if not the most special person in my life, he not only was the sole provider growing up but he was the only parent there emotionally as well and often defended me from my mother. It makes me sick how society treats fathers and fatherhood, dads are so special and should be appreciated. Sorry for the personal comment here, but this is something personal I've seen my dad struggle with and its really upsetting that society likes to pretend they don't matter. Fathers often go through hell and back with little to no support for themselves

espositojoe · 2019-05-27T06:01:29+00:00

Anyone who thinks this never met my ex-wife. She went into her second adolescence, and I was lucky enough to get my boys 90 percent of the time.

xNOM · 2019-05-27T09:47:59+00:00

You can lay this directly at the feet of feminism. The main driver for feminism was economic independence from husbands and fathers. Once you no longer need a husband or a father to survive, the biggest female use for men is for avoiding loneliness. Once divorcing and taking kids became the legal norm, women only really had to put up with husbands for the time it takes to get the kids into school.

Notice that I said "independence from husbands and fathers." Not "independence from men." Women still survive off of men's labor. They are massively subsidized by male taxpayers, alimony, and child support. Sure they work. But they're not serious about it. The pay gap for fulltime work even though they have more education is exhibit A. The fact that they work far less and waste far more time on education is exhibit B. It becomes easy to disrepect someone when you can take their money without having to thank them to their face.

It's also because we live in a feminised snowflake culture where feelings are more important than facts. Compared to 50 years ago, western people don't have actual problems with crime, food, shelter, infectious disease, and war anymore. The most horrifying thing that happens to most people nowadays is people saying something mean about them on social media.

findMyNudesSomewhere · 2019-05-27T11:13:42+00:00

Tbh, I've seen mothers routinely try to vent about their husbands to their children. This has happened with my mother as well and it looks to be happening with my wife, too.

Bear in mind that my experiences are not with radfems, just a random sample of suburban mothers, both employeed and housewives. Maybe there's something else that's causing this?

Is it that they don't get to vent anywhere? I've always observed this constant pressure on them, from other mothers, that their kid should be the best. This isn't that pronounced with the fathers, just the mothers.

I've seen one mother go to extreme lengths to prevent others from finding out about her real situation in life (it's not even bad, just her kid got low grades in a few courses and wants to pursue guitar as a career, seemed normal to me). She invented an entire company her kid was supposedly working for, including holidays. She even forged a duplicate gradesheet to hang in her living room.

You can even look at typical college dynamics. Girls go to extreme lengths to appear popular, or desirable. Boys don't go to extremes, though they do attempt to appear a bit larger than life.

Why do women pressurize themselves so? I haven't ever received a viable explanation for this.

Kanonizator · 2019-05-27T12:45:22+00:00

Christianity in its original form taught people to respect fathers, and with the undermining of christianity and all the values it represented the respect for fathers is now also gone. It was a hundred year progressive march through the culture that gradually changed people's perceptions about men and fathers - from protectors and providers we have turned into oppressors and bums/thugs in the public eye, and the change was so slow that people never could point to it and say this change is unhealthy and unnatural. Most people's views simply reflect the general views held by society, and nowadays progressives control the social narrative, so their insane bullshit is ingrained in people's brains without them even realizing it. Nowadays "everybody knows" that fathers are stupid losers and the oppressors of their own families, this is what the media and the education system tells kids while they grow up, so this is their default stance. Before christianity was demolished the general view was that men make one of the most grievous sacrifices by not being with their loved ones and working for them instead, accepting the wretched fate of being away from your wife and kids so you can put food on their table. Feminists have turned this view on its head by implying that men hate their families, so for us being away from them is a net positive, in fact toiling away at work for years on end is some secret fun we men refuse to share with women because we hate them so much, so we condemn them to the horrors of staying at home with the kids while we enjoy ourselves at work. Calling this notion retarded would be a massive understatment and yet people are brainwashed with it so thoroughly they can't even grasp why anyone would think it isn't true. Everyone knows this, right?

Also, women have a lot stronger herd mentality than men, for many of them many things are considered a (zero sum) game against men, and this is boosted to insane levels by feminism. This makes lots of women be really dismissive and aggressive about everything related to men, they must voice their opinions about how women are better at, including but not limited to, everything. For them it's only natural to spit on fathers in the name of mothers, it's just another form of their team beating our team. You know, they don't have football or baseball to channel these kinds of instincts into, their preferred sport is team men vs. team women in real life, and they don't make a secret of who they're rooting for. Most men are literally unable to comprehend this shit, for them life is a cooperative effort where men and women work together, and the fact that women treat them as enemies is something their minds refuse to process, they wave it away like some kind of nonsense that isn't real. Of course feminism is about equality, what do you mean it's an anti-male, female supremacist movement, are you stoopid? And when you point out to them things like how fathers are despised instead of respected they shrug and mumble something about how this is just the way things are and there's nothing to respect about fathers anyways.

DJ-Roukan · 2019-05-27T12:31:52+00:00

Because angry feminist dominate the narrative.

JoeSchmoe777 · 2019-05-27T15:36:40+00:00

The father is the representation of the patriarchy they need to dismantle. You can't support the one as it hurts the narrative of the other.

Lethn · 2019-05-27T16:13:18+00:00

There are two aspects to this I think, very often I've found that the feminists who genuinely hate men or ex-feminists who hated men either has some genuinely bad experiences or bad experiences with men and they decide then due to that that all men are awful and have declared that all of us must suffer for the actions of the 4 or so men they encountered in their lives who were either unpleasant or genuinely abusive to them.

Secondly, they're taught to hate men and feminism which is why I am so against the ideology in the first place is responsible for teaching women to think this way about men generally. If your mother had no father growing up it could be that when she was young she was taught in a university especially that everything's the fault of men and this is just speculation but it could be she really resents that her father wasn't in her life and is taking it out on everybody else.

The man haters out there can be genuinely psychotic but there are also a group of them that clearly grew up with some serious issues in their lives or had some bad treatment and the fanatics and sociopaths in the feminist movement who want to push their ideology on young women and get their followers often take advantage of them.

It's a really fucked up way of thinking but you're right to question it and understand why exactly they think the way they do because that in the end is how you turn them away from that attitude or make sure to isolate other women away from their bullshit. I think though because society as a whole has been so fucking passive in dealing with these lunatics some of them are so far gone they'll never get rid of that attitude towards men because they have been thoroughly indoctrinated.

Crazycatgirl16 · 2019-05-28T03:27:32+00:00

Feminism is a huge part of it but I also believe it's due to jealousy, which in turn could be related to feminism as well.

I've seen it irl and in films. Personally, my dad was basically a single father and the best. He did everything and my mother didnt know anything when it came to us and people were quick to remind us about our mother. It's why this issue really gets to me and I find myself irritated at hearing about how great mothers are all the time

PlatothePyro · 2019-05-28T14:17:23+00:00

Because women don't see all that the father does to keep food on the table and a roof over their head.

Smallpaul · 2019-05-27T04:53:28+00:00

Divorce rates are dropping.

https://www.thecut.com/2014/12/the-divorce-rate-isnt-soaring.html

Your mother’s attitude is not shared by my mother, my wife or my daughter. Select a wife carefully (don’t let your gonads pick) and you will be loved and respected.

Title	Why are Fathers Hated so Much?
Author	JustiniantheFirst
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Date	May 27, 2019 2:46 AM UTC (7 years ago)
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