I'm a 17 year old boy with parents that went through a pretty bad divorce. I thought that this sub and r/menslib would be a good outlet to discuss about issues I thought other men could relate to and see how we can solve it together. But that isn't the case, both sub just seem to be stroking the flames of America's already divisive political and cultural landscape instead of going into the root cause as to why men have these issue. But I feel this sub is becoming no different than r/MGTOW and if you disagree give me a reason , But I'm constantly being told that it is the women in my life that are the cause of my problems when a majority of women were the ones that actually helped me with how I was feeling during my worst times, I constantly hear the society will be better off without feminisms and that we need to dismantle but I just find this untrue, Feminism isn't... an organization or a corporation or a group, really. It's a school of thought. You can't kill an idea. Even if you removed all feminist teaching from schools and the internet, you'd still have women who look around and be like "Huh, things are a bit shit for us ladies." Whether it's many people beliving the llies of post-modern Feminism

https://www.vox.com/2018/3/20/16955588/feminism-waves-explained-first-second-third-fourth

Or the complicated myths surrounding the patriarchy

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/myth-patriarchy-male-privilege-arindam-pal?trk=read_related_article-card_title

Women and Men may be part of the same species but we have different issues and problems both systemic and institutional that can only be solved through different means. We do not live in monolith, we do not think the same and as much as we don't like it, the world does not revolve around just us.

I'm of the opinion that this part of a larger trend of dehumanization that's been accelerating for the past Century or so, primarily because of american style capitalism and other similar monetary systems. Those systems, by their nature, devalue human life as the profit motive always comes first. The value of human life is not innate in this system, it is directly proportional to your productivity in your job, whether that be manufacturing, or in the more modern day, the service industry. You are the product, and you are selling yourself either literally or metaphorically, meaning that pricelessness of human life now has a price.

this is true for people on all sides of the political spectrum of any background. The expectation that somebody's willing to share their political opinion online, the expectation that people creating media for the own personal enjoyment "owe you" for making them popular, etc. While conservatives are certainly the most radical and easily apparent symptom of this problem ( https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/03/the-yuck-factor/580465/), (https://qz.com/1775505/the-most-radical-americans-of-2019-are-the-ethical-conservatives/) we all to an extent exhibit this behavior, and the insidiousness of it is that rather than overtly try and police how we act and think, it makes us police the behaviors of each other, and gives the illusion progress.

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