Why does there appear to be significant biases against disabled men within feminist circles?

StakingGainz55 · 2024-02-13T18:13:51+00:00

Women do not value men intrinsically. A man is only worth what they can offer: protection, resources, etc. A disabled man is viewed as someone that needs caretaking. A woman wants a man to caretake her not the reverse, so a disabled man is worthless to a woman deserving of no empathy.

gabriel-kornilov · 2024-02-13T18:10:22+00:00

They want us to take care of them 24/7. Not the other way around. And of course while crying oppression and misogyny....

tiredfromlife2019 · 2024-02-13T18:05:22+00:00

Because you fell for their bullshit.

Look, body positivity is for women. Full stop.

It's so that a woman can be as fat as she wants and nobody can tell her she is fat and people have to think she is hot.

Feminism says it's for equality for all to cover up it's real goal which is more power and privilege for women.

Asatmaya · 2024-02-13T17:55:24+00:00

To them, a disabled male is the definition of useless.

keepinitreal567 · 2024-02-13T18:55:32+00:00

I consider myself a person who has a behavioral disability who had to work his tail off to get to a point where he currently is. I am studying Business at a good university, and will get a good career soon. I once spoke briefly to a girl who has a behavioral disability and even she ghosted me for a Chad/Tyrone. Yes, believe it or not, even non-NT women have the shallow mindset and go for Chads and Tyrones. This is how messed up third wave feminism is.

HotwheelsJackOfficia · 2024-02-14T00:35:16+00:00

As an autistic man, it's so very common to be looked down upon or have people assume the worst about me just because of my disability.

YetAnotherCommenter · 2024-02-14T02:13:43+00:00

Why do feminists appear so reluctant to address ableism within their own community that go against the values they claimed to espouse?

Women are people, and people are very good at motivated reasoning.

Ultimately, what you're seeing is feminists exhibiting evolutionary, sub-rational drives from their lizard brains... in this case, a revulsion towards 'spergy/autistic men. Their nominal opposition to ableism is completely subordinated to their lizard brain's evolved revulsion to a neurotype that is not fit to the evolutionary environment (i.e. super-low-tech tribal society where Might Made Right).

In addition, they have internalized the idea that women's empowerment is (basically) "me getting what I want all the time and no one being able to stop me or criticize me." So anything that facilitates this is seen as empowering.

Why are these feminists, who claim to be against gender roles, basically enacting the stereotypical normie-woman feminine imperative? You're right that there's a conflict between what their neocortex claims to espouse and what their actual behaviors are... and I really think it comes down to the fact that women are encouraged to treat their immediate whims/desires/instincts/sub-rational drives as authentic and infallible. Men, or at least a subset of men, are encouraged to (or are just naturally inclined to) interrogate and question their lizard brains. To restrain the id, if you will (and to be fair, given men's on-average greater physical strength this has some merit as a precautionary mechanism). Males are generally taught a lot about (or are just more aware of, for whatever reason) the fallibility of their lizard brains, and forewarned is forearmed. Females, on the other hand, are either not given (or, for whatever reason, do not acquire) comparable information about their own lizard brains. They are not forewarned and hence not forearmed, so they succumb.

So yes, they're being cruel and ableist because their biological urges drive them to do it and they believe honoring (as opposed to questioning/investigating) these biological urges is empowering and see anything which thwarts these biological urges is "anti-woman." The feminist ideology they adhere to really is driven by motivated reasoning and their principles are only nominal.

As a 'sperg myself, the amount of sheer hatred feminists have for 'spergy men is just disgusting, but its also paradoxical - 'spergs are gender-nonconforming by definition. We fail to live up to traditional standards of masculinity and as such you'd think feminists would be our allies. But the opposite is the case - just look at how feminists have attacked/hijacked/destroyed nerdy, 'spergy subcultures (comics, video games, tabletop RPGs, atheism...). They seem to hate us MORE than they hate the "hegemonically masculine" chad/alpha/JockyMcJockstrap types.

BurnAfterEating420 · 2024-02-13T21:52:26+00:00

because women have no use for a disabled man, unless he's wealthy. then they are happy to show him one face, and reserve the real one for her friends.

keepinitreal567 · 2024-02-13T18:49:32+00:00

The feminism of the past was to help women live better in society. I think todays feminism is based on a lot of contradictions. They complain about their lack of success in dating and relationships, but thirst like a bunch of idiots for Chads and Tyrones who have nothing emotionally to offer. Later they complain about “omg their is no good men or men are trash.” But yet they turned down the good men for Chads and Tyrones. Also, today’s feminism believes men have to be submissive for womens behaviors. This is why religious women > woke feminist women.

Sea-Shock-2487 · 2024-02-13T23:17:01+00:00

feminists have a large bias against men in general. not specific to disabled ones.

HelloFuckYou1 · 2024-02-14T01:17:47+00:00

you said it: disabled MEN

CawlinAlcarz · 2024-02-14T16:43:44+00:00

The short answer is "hypergamy".

The longer answer is "current day feminist ideology".

Current day feminist ideology is that a woman should only involve herself for anything other than a casual sexual fling with a man who can provide resources (money) for her, that will make her life easier. Further, that ideology teaches women that they are only responsible for themselves (and not even reallly that) in a relationship, and that they should NOT be held accountable to keep the house their husband provides them with clean, they should not be responsible to keep their husband's laundry clean, they should not be responsible for cooking the food their husband provides for them into meals for him. In short, current feminist ideology is that women owe nothing in the form of care to the man who provides them with all these resources. Admittedly, feminism is ostensibly teaching women that they don't "need" men and that they can provide for themselves, but the reality for most women is that they aren't willing to do what it takes to generate the resources required for a comfortable life. Further they are taught that whatever resources they generate are theirs and theirs alone, and that if they decide to enter into a relationship with a man, that the man's resource pool will be shared with her, while none of hers is required to be shared with him. After all, they DESERVE all the resources that they generate themsleves, and by virtue of marriage, they DESERVE the resources that the man generates, while the man doesn't DESERVE any resources from them.

So, considering a man with disabilities, it is likely that women are considering that this man will not be able to provide them with the resources they "deserve" and that he will further require more care from her than he "deserves".

I'm not saying this is fair and I am certainly not trying to be insensitive to people with disabilities, but when you get down to brass tacks, that's what's going on in their heads.

The opposite - able-bodied man considering a disabled woman as a partner - does much differently. Men typically aren't looking for a woman to provide them with material resources. Men typically are looking for love, companionship, kindness, intimacy, appreciation, etc. A woman can do ALL of that from a wheelchair. Admittedly, she may not be able to carry out all the responsibilities of cleaning and keeping the household, but men tend to overlook these things or find workarounds for them much more readily than women tend to be willing to overlook or workaround a man not providing financially.

pirate694 · 2024-02-14T13:49:07+00:00

Why do you go around fem subs?

Title	Why does there appear to be significant biases against disabled men within feminist circles?
Author	AbleismIsSatan
Upvotes	140
Comments	38
Date	February 13, 2024 5:08 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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