Redpill™ vs Red Pill (There's a Difference)

wtknight · 2022-07-23T15:28:59+00:00

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-Ivar-TheBoneless · 2022-07-23T14:29:25+00:00

I think the problem is letting MGTOW's call themselves Red Pill. Most of them do no self improvement and have simply choose to give up. They are black pill by definition. Not to mention they bring Red Pill down.

Lysa_Bell · 2022-07-23T14:15:33+00:00

What does it matter? Even if TRP may have started as a improvement thing for men it's not anymore. It's a toxic place for men wanting to take away women's rights and whining about them. Let it die.

goatismycopilot · 2022-07-23T14:25:28+00:00

I think a lot of the OG Redpill people are hustlers trying to con men out of money selling bullshit programs. I think they might have also been slightly more more original and creative in their thinking which is why they are focused on marketing and monetizing.

The next generation are boring and cliche ridden or they scream a lot or just troll but not particularly well. Most of the self identified redpill men who post here now are the boring cliche ridden ones.

caption291 · 2022-07-23T14:29:20+00:00

It's simply men fixing men for the betterment of men. It's the locker room. It's men swapping notes.

I think that describes pick up artists more than it describes the red pill on a fundamental level. In the analogy of the matrix, neo is "bashing" the machines or I guess holding em accountable.(not exactly but the spirit of it is the same).

The guy that gave up on fixing the problem with the machines and is just trying to make himself as successful as possible within the current state of things would be Cypher.

The self-improvement thing is just a slant to make things more palatable. It's not an important part of the redpill at all regardless of how much redpillers focus on it. It's the bluepill of the redpill basically.

sarkington · 2022-07-23T14:47:04+00:00

If the “betterment of men” means using an amoral strategy to get what they want from half the human race and considering them alien, antagonistic beings, well, most of us might consider that a little…..limiting

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TomBerwick1984 · 2022-07-23T14:39:17+00:00

Rollo Tomassi is - from what I can tell - the architect of the Red Pill movement, and he endorses and collaborates with Fresh and Fit, Donovan Sharpe, and the Tate brothers, so that doesn't seem accurate to me.

It's the locker room. It's men swapping notes.

The Red Pill IMO is basically mixing PUA with Evolutionary Psychology - which is what Rollo did.

'Male dating coaches' and PUA seems to be more about men swapping notes, and locker room talk. ME PUAs don't engage in endless woman bashing, they just present formulas or advice on how to bang a lot of women.

Mystery and Neil Strauss, didn't bash women or present female nature as sociopathic, unlike Rollo Tomassi, etc.

Title	Redpill™ vs Red Pill (There's a Difference)
Author	comeonmanpod
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Comments	19
Date	July 23, 2022 2:08 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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