What’s the middle ground between getting to a know a woman before asking her out and “just using the friendship to get in her pants?”

wtknight · 2022-09-15T23:59:46+00:00

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toasterchild · 2022-09-15T23:44:31+00:00

If you've got no game then it's probably not going to matter when you ask her out because you're not going to come off sexually exciting in either option. You have to practice flirting, if you don't give her any tingles you are going to have a much harder time.

IndependenceSoft3250 · 2022-09-15T23:44:34+00:00

I'm not sure what the question is, what is your actual goal?

2022-09-15T23:50:44+00:00

The purpose of a relationship with a woman is sex. Period. You get to know her to find out if she's worth your time and your investment. Remember, as a man you bring immense value into a woman's life. Don't give that value up for free because you are desperate to get laid. You should always change value for equal or greater value from the woman.

friendly_deviant · 2022-09-15T23:55:30+00:00

The friend zone doesn't exit, what exists is lack of attraction. A man I find attractive will be attractive to me even if it takes him a long time to express his attraction towards me. The main problem with waiting for too long is that I might assume that you're not interested and if I start dating someone else I won't be available to you anymore.

If my friendship with a guy felt effortless on his side I wouldn't assume he became my friend just to get in my pants. If sex is all the man wants that's something that will show early on as interaction would feel forced or overly sexual.

There is no specific timeline, I'm afraid. You're better learning how to read receptivity on her part and that's the hard part to master. Does she enjoy talking to you? Does she hang out with you and your friends? Is she willing to hang out on a 1:1 with you? How she reacts to your flirting attempts? If she gives you green light keep going, if not, then stop.

I don't speak for other women and other women might experience this differently.

azuresag3 · 2022-09-16T00:02:40+00:00

They are right…

Friendship and romance aren’t a great mix when you’re trying to define the relationship. You’re a bit too inexperienced to understand.

You should ask out people you are genuinely interested in. It’s a plus if they are interested in you.

Just keep shooting your shot and keep flirting. Keep trying. Women will not fault you for trying. Just don’t be creep or bitter.

But also work on self improvement and making yourself more attractive. (Inside and out)

jjlew922 · 2022-09-16T00:07:38+00:00

The thing is you need to start figuring out what you want. In each scenario you presented you’re looking for how to achieve landing a woman when your objective should be what woman am I looking for, that I want to share my life with. This mindset shift is crucial. Not just with women but in how you approach life. Set goals and crush them, without it we each are all led astray to the next best thing. No compass, no confidence, and no ability to make an impact on this world. Know who you are and follow that. Things will fall on place. But this is only attainable when you have doing good in your heart. Red pill will teach you game, but will you feel good about yourself in the end? Take a balanced approach. Walk away when it’s not in line with your values. Figure those out and you’ll show up in the world in a different way.

Title	What’s the middle ground between getting to a know a woman before asking her out and “just using the friendship to get in her pants?”
Author	Remarkable_Sort_1706
Upvotes	5
Comments	8
Date	September 15, 2022 11:09 PM UTC (3 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
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