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7 Things I've Learned From My Highly Desirable, Thrice Divorced Mother

June 4, 2023
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Before I start, I should note that each husband was a high value guy. They each made a lot of money, and were generally pretty nice people (aside from the last one). She also dated a lot of very nice, high value men. This is how she landed these guys, and then lost them.

  1. Marry a man because you love him, not because he can fund your life. She never married a man that she really loved, it was about what they could give her. Money, status, etc. Don't marry a man you don't love completely and wholly just because he checks all of your boxes. It's shallow, selfish, and cruel to the man who thought you were in it for the right reasons. Of course a man should provide, but he does not exist purely to buy you stuff. They should be your partner in crime, your lover, your confidant, and your best friend.
  2. Men really value a playful, open spirit... to an extent. My mom was not the type to turn heads when she walked down the street, but she had her pick of the pack because everyone wanted a piece of her personality. She was the type who could talk to anyone, was down to do anything, willing to try everything, loved a good prank, and knew how to make people laugh. This was her main draw and she knew it. Even when her looks started to fade, this quality kept her young. The downside to this was that she couldn't turn it off. She was incessantly bored and impossible to entertain 24/7. There has to be a line drawn, and you have to be able to settle down, or else your life is going to be pure chaos.
  3. Men also really value the ability to speak concisely, intelligently, and with class. They need you to be able to have a decent conversation not only with them, but with their colleagues, family, friends, maybe even their boss at a company party, If you can't carry an interesting, engaging, intelligent conversation with just about anyone, that's gonna be an issue. He picked you, and so who you are and how you act says something about him and his judgement.
  4. Admit your faults and gracefully accept criticism. The inability to do this is a really common trait these days, and it kills relationships. If you go into a marriage (or any relationship at all) thinking that it's you against him, that you're right and he's wrong, that he's dumb and you're smart..... That will kill your relationship in it's tracks. It sets up a sense of superiority. You end up looking down on him, and he will feel that lack of respect to his core.
  5. Don't allow life to take away your softness. My mother and I both had hard lives as children, and that translated to being very brittle, emotionally unavailable people in adulthood. It's easy to fall into this hole, and I sat with her in it until I got married and realized that it was only pushing my husband away from me. Softness translates into being malleable. You should be able to adapt to anything and form yourself into who or what you need to be in this or that situation, while maintaining that light core.
  6. Take care of yourself, physically. My mother, bless her soul, aged horrifically. She smokes, she drank a lot in her youth, she did a lot of casual drugs, never wore sunscreen, ate like crap, etc. I can see how much of a toll it's taken on her self-esteem. While she wasn't a head-turner, she was beautiful, and she threw that gift down the toilet. While you may not be hot when you're 60, you can still be beautiful if you take care of yourself.
  7. Believe people when they tell you he's not a nice person. If one person says it, that's an opinion. If seven people say it, you should probably listen. Highly manipulative people put on a face for people they like, and drag everyone else through the pasture. He will eventually stop liking you, and the chickens will come home to roost.

I'd love to hear about what things you ladies have noticed in your mothers' marriages, what went wrong and what went right.

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Title 7 Things I've Learned From My Highly Desirable, Thrice Divorced Mother
Author morbidityofanother
Upvotes 102
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Date June 4, 2023 3:16 AM UTC (6 months ago)
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[–]Jenneapolis2 Stars 17 points18 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Cool post!! My mother has also been married three times, but her last has stuck and he’s the love of her life. My dad was her first husband and they were high school sweethearts who married young as was done back then. She ignored all the red flags about him and they were in love but definitely incompatible and he was a train wreck. Her second husband was way below her league and she clearly settled because she was a single mother with three kids who felt like anyone was better than nothing. Again she ignored the glaring red flags. Finally, she met the love of her life and even though I’m not a big fan of him, it doesn’t matter because he treats her like a queen and they are goofy and act like teenagers together.

The key lessons I learned: don’t settle and don’t ignore red flags. It’s better to end a relationship because of some red flags then go ahead with a marriage that ends up ending leaving you in a worse place than you started. I also learned you can find true love later in life.

[–]morbidityofanother1 Star[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's never too late to find love. Makes me so happy that your mom could finally find her man after all of that! Definitely agree with the lessons you learned.

[–]Cosima_Fan_Tutte1 Star 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Men really value a playful, open spirit... to an extent. My mom was not the type to turn heads when she walked down the street, but she had her pick of the pack because everyone wanted a piece of her personality. She was the type who could talk to anyone, was down to do anything, willing to try everything, loved a good prank, and knew how to make people laugh.

Very nice post. This this such an underrated quality on RPW. From what I've seen, women like this don't stay single for long.

Anyway, my mom is a beautiful woman who never found romantic happiness. I used to wonder why, she was a smoke show when she was young. But she is also emotionally volatile, easily wounded, defensive, has tunnel vision when it comes to something that's important to her.

She settled and married my dad, a stem dude who's probably on the spectrum. He was nuts about her, she was meh about him. She was 25, which in the USSR at the time was old-maid territory, so she felt she had to marry someone and my dad seemed like a rational choice (she told me this). Their marriage has ranged from humdrum routine to ragingly unhappy for the past 40 years.

So I guess what I learned is that SMV is a lot but not everything (indeed, I'm far less attractive than my mom and my marriage is a million times happier) and don't settle for a man you think is meh (I don't blame my mom much for this, she grew up in a different era).

[–]raven_lou_chicken 11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I wanted to make a similar post about my trainwreck mom. It took me 3 years ago (at 20) that EVERY choice she made was bad. All the horrible things she did. The guys she dated. Everything. And I see how it affected me and honestly how it made me act as a young adult and teenager. I'm a married mom now and I'm really glad that I didn't turn out like her.

Edit: she married my dad when she was 16 (he was 35 🥲) she only married him because she wanted to get out of her families house. She was a very spoiled kid.

They divorced after having me and my sister. She was pregnant again by another guy before the divorce was final.

She had several awful boyfriends my entire life. She did drugs and drank a lot. Still does. She dated a pedophile who said he wanted to murder me and my siblings.

She cheated several times over on the only good guy she ever dated. She was mean to him. She took advantage of him. He took great care of us kids and we still are close.

She is the worst role model there could be.

[–]morbidityofanother1 Star[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm so glad you could find the path to being a great mother and wife, and learning from your mother's mistakes. Not everyone is so wise.

[–]SunshineSundressEndorsed Contributor 6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

u/ardentbandicoot, could you please give u/morbidityofanother a star please? This reminds me of some great theory posts by some older ECs. You bring up great points, and are wonderfully objective and balanced in your takeaways. Thanks for taking the time to share!

[–]morbidityofanother1 Star[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

How nice of you, happy to share :)

[–]ArdentBandicootModerator 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Done! u/morbidityofanother, great post!

[–]LateralThinker13Endorsed Contributor 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

She was the type who could talk to anyone, was down to do anything, willing to try everything, loved a good prank, and knew how to make people laugh. This was her main draw and she knew it.

...and this is why TRP warns against Manic Pixie Girls. Your mom sounds like she's high on fun but also high on crazy, a zone you don't want to be in.

Admit your faults and gracefully accept criticism. The inability to do this is a really common trait these days

Especially amongst a) Feminists and other cult members, who can't even stand to rationally discuss what they believe, let alone be criticized on it, and b) the ignorant, i.e. most who come out of today's public education, but who don't even know enough to understand how much they don't know.

Don't allow life to take away your softness.

Life, hell. Society is actively encouraging the rejection of femininity, to the point of encouring the mindvirus of underage transsexuality amongst girls. But if you say anything you're a hater.

Take care of yourself, physically.

A man can't become taller; women can put down the fork. But women can be picky about shorties and men cannot be picky about fatties? Today's hypocritical culture is awful.

Believe people when they tell you he's not a nice person.

VET VET VET, regardless of gender. And listen to what friends and family think, do NOT let love goggles ruin your life.

[–]AutoModerator[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Title: 7 Things I've Learned From My Highly Desirable, Thrice Divorced Mother

Full text: Before I start, I should note that each husband was a high value guy. They each made a lot of money, and were generally pretty nice people (aside from the last one). She also dated a lot of very nice, high value men. This is how she landed these guys, and then lost them.

  1. Marry a man because you love him, not because he can fund your life. She never married a man that she really loved, it was about what they could give her. Money, status, etc. Don't marry a man you don't love completely and wholly just because he checks all of your boxes. It's shallow, selfish, and cruel to the man who thought you were in it for the right reasons. Of course a man should provide, but he does not exist purely to buy you stuff. They should be your partner in crime, your lover, your confidant, and your best friend.
  2. Men really value a playful, open spirit... to an extent. My mom was not the type to turn heads when she walked down the street, but she had her pick of the pack because everyone wanted a piece of her personality. She was the type who could talk to anyone, was down to do anything, willing to try everything, loved a good prank, and knew how to make people laugh. This was her main draw and she knew it. Even when her looks started to fade, this quality kept her young. The downside to this was that she couldn't turn it off. She was incessantly bored and impossible to entertain 24/7. There has to be a line drawn, and you have to be able to settle down, or else your life is going to be pure chaos.
  3. Men also really value the ability to speak concisely, intelligently, and with class. They need you to be able to have a decent conversation not only with them, but with their colleagues, family, friends, maybe even their boss at a company party, If you can't carry an interesting, engaging, intelligent conversation with just about anyone, that's gonna be an issue. He picked you, and so who you are and how you act says something about him and his judgement.
  4. Admit your faults and gracefully accept criticism. The inability to do this is a really common trait these days, and it kills relationships. If you go into a marriage (or any relationship at all) thinking that it's you against him, that you're right and he's wrong, that he's dumb and you're smart..... That will kill your relationship in it's tracks. It sets up a sense of superiority. You end up looking down on him, and he will feel that lack of respect to his core.
  5. Don't allow life to take away your softness. My mother and I both had a hard lives as children, and that translated to being a very brittle, emotionally unavailable people in adulthood. It's easy to fall into this hole, and I sat with her in it until I got married and realized that it was only pushing my husband away from me. Softness translates into being malleable. You should be able to adapt to anything and form yourself into who or what you need to be in this or that situation, while maintaining that light core.
  6. Take care of yourself, physically. My mother, bless her soul, aged horrifically. She smokes, she drank a lot in her youth, she did a lot of casual drugs, never wore sunscreen, ate like crap, etc. I can see how much of a toll it's taken on her self-esteem. While she wasn't a head-turner, she was beautiful, and she threw that gift down the toilet. While you may not be hot when you're 60, you can still be beautiful if you take care of yourself.
  7. Believe people when they tell you he's not a nice person. If one person says it, that's an opinion. If seven people say it, you should probably listen. Highly manipulative people put on a face for people they like, and drag everyone else through the pasture. He will eventually stop liking you, and the chickens will come home to roost.

I'd love to hear about what things you ladies have noticed in your mothers' marriages, what went wrong and what went right.


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[–]allkuku 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed.

(Except for a slight personal and perhaps unrealistic quibble with 1: Marry a man because you love him, not because he and can fund your life.)

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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