Does/did the pill influence your behaviour?

Aluminum_Visua · 2016-06-13T15:18:10+00:00

When I was a teen, I was diagnosed with PCOS. It's very common to put women on birth control for symptom management. I stayed on from about 15 until about 25, so a long time.

I was very masculine on birth control. I never cried, and was quick to anger. I was also extremely productive. There was a power in not feeling typical female vulnerabilities I still sometimes miss. But I was a mean, nasty bitch.

I basically had a life crisis around the time I went off. I started having more traditional female behaviors, such as being much more emotionally softer and being able to cry. It was around that time I also started exploring Redpill ideas, since I was unhappy with the same old hookup culture and being ostracized for wanting a healthy give and take type relationship. It did wonders for my happiness and my new relationship.

I never preferred beta men. When I was masculine and bitchy on birth control, they bothered me even more actually.

I don't recommend hormonal birth control to women trying to find/keep a partner. I think it has the ability to change you drastically. And I think it's definitely negatively impacted my generation, where it is typical to be on birth control from high school to before you want kids, sometimes 10+ years.

TLDR: I feel the pill had a HUGE impact on my emotions, and once off I experienced large personality changes for the better. I highly recommend non hormonal birth control instead.

MsSadieDunham · 2016-06-13T12:38:37+00:00

When I stopped taking the pill this past October, I did feel different, I can't explain how really, but I did. I wasn't less bitchy or want a different kind of man, (I like to think rpw stomped most of the bitchiness out of me) and I am still married to my husband (lol) but I did feel different. Unfortunately my cramps from PMS came back but they're not as bad as they were when I started the pill back when I was 18.

WalkingWikipedia · 2016-06-13T15:46:34+00:00

I'll try to remember this as best I can because it's been a few months since I was reading about it:

There was an experiment (maybe more than one?) done to determine if birth control short-circuits a woman's ability to choose the best genetic partner to produce offspring.

Basically, everyone has different immune factors. Nature evolved our brains to help someone with, say, a low immune factor #3 be attracted to someone with a high immune factor #3, as their offspring would get a good genetic combination and have the highest chances of passing those good genetics on.

In the experiment, they took two groups of women — one group not on birth control hormones and the other group on them — had them smell the undershirts of men who hadn't showered or taken off the shirts for two days prior to the experiment, and rate the smells of each shirt.

What they found was that the women not on birth control rated the smell of men who had complementary immunities as very pleasant. These women could also not even stand to smell the scent of a man who had the same low immune factors as she did, some even felt nauseous from the scent.

The women taking birth control hormones did not have any correlation between immunity combinations and pleasantness of smell — probably because the hormones trick the body into thinking she's already pregnant.

Some of the jargon may be off, as it was a few months ago that I read this, but that's the gist of it.

redpillnobody · 2016-06-13T11:18:17+00:00

Here's some quick science that will likely put a lot of it into perspective. I'll mansplain some of the implications here and in comments further down the thread. :p

The following pair of studies were for women who were not on hormonal birth control: http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/Near-Ovulation-Your-Cheatin-Heart-6713?RelNum=6713

There are other studies like it, but I'm just going to pull quotes from these two since they all find pretty much the same things for our purposes on this topic.

New research from UCLA and the University of New Mexico suggests that members of "the gentler sex" may have evolved to cheat on their mates during the most fertile part of their cycle — but only when those mates are less sexually attractive than other men.

The general idea is that during ovulation, women have a strong biological push towards alpha behaviors and characteristics (ie: sexually attractive) in an attempt to make sure they're getting good genes for their prospective offspring.

But women who rated their mates as more suitable for long-term involvement than a quick fling had different behavior and desires than women who considered their mates hot. "When women were mated to men with low sexual versus investment attractiveness, they were particularly likely to experience increased attraction to men other than their partners at mid‑cycle," Haselton said.

So if their partner primarily shows beta tendencies (ie: more suitable for long-term involvement), they're more likely to yearn for outside bow chicka wow wow from someone who shows more alpha tendencies.

According to the traditional evolution story, men value attractiveness in a mate, whereas women value resources and status," Haselton said. "But the story appears to be much more nuanced. Physical attractiveness is very important to women, but to see this you have to catch women during the narrow window of fertility within the cycle."

The end result is that when women go on hormonal birth control and the ovulation aspect of their cycle is smoothed out, it takes away a lot of their biological push towards alpha and makes them much more tolerant to beta. The same things that smooth that out in terms of hormonal differences are the same things that smooth out PMS symptoms.

deadsandsushi · 2016-06-19T17:43:01+00:00

It doesn't do anything for me as far as I can tell. I am strong willed and do my own thing. I've been on and off the pill over the last 15 years or so and my taste in guys is the same as well as my libido.

Passerby6 · 2016-06-20T00:27:53+00:00

I always thought that I had a low libido because I never had much desire for sex, but after I stopped taking the pill, I learned otherwise.

I'm curious if you had the same partner? I haven't been on the pill in years. I thought I was LL, but after a new mate.. turns out I wasn't ;)

Title	Does/did the pill influence your behaviour?
Author	thisisophelia
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Date	June 13, 2016 10:10 AM UTC (10 years ago)
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