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[–]Apexk910 points11 points12 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I don't cheat.
If I wanted to fuck other women I wouldn't be in a relationship
[–]Senior ContributorMentORPHEUS5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
When I was closer to 20 I viewed this as a moral absolute.
With 30 years of real-world experience since then, I consider "never cheat" a strong recommendation, albeit with nuances and extenuating circumstances. Do what you will or won't in your own life, but don't be too quick to finalize judgements on others because you don't know all of their situation; walk a mile in their shoes so to speak.
For those who want to spin multiple plates, it's much easier to set up a nonmonogamous relationship upfront, than to change or amend it later, and much much easier than just cheating and getting caught.
Instead, tell the bitch that she's a loser, and walk away: a correction. A lesson that you won't take the easy pickings, and that her actions put her beneath what you're willing to deal with.
Don't assume this will have the long-term effect on her behavior that you wish it would. In fact, the cognitive dissonance will probably be resolved by riding the next cock that much harder. If it makes you feel better about yourself, go ahead; but unless your woman set this up as a test, or the prospective cheater's circles intersect yours now or in the future, the effect will end there.
[–]2102105[S] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There are always things to be learned, for sure.
I do agree that a one-off event like this will likely not have any long-term effects. But if she runs into a couple guys that tell her that, she just might reconsider. Got to start somewhere.
[–]_red_carpet2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I agree you're not alpha if you get a girl to cheat on her BF. It simply means you're different than her BF- and if her BF isn't giving her enough security, that could actually mean you're more beta than him.
[–]NotUpToAnythingGood2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This post by the OP is filled with moralizing draped in "maintain your honor for her and yourself".
Not to mention it doesn't look at the broad spectrum of relationships that do exist. Not all of them revolve around monogamy, which is the relationship type that often highly benefits the woman.
The only part that is useful is the lessons learned section.
[–]2awalt_cupcake4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's all amoral. All is fair in love and war.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Not everybody follows these morals tho. For example, I keep my word with men, always. With women? I'll lie and break my word all the time. Women deserve no loyalty or morality from you.
[–]Endorsed Contributoralways-be-closing2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
I can't violate promises I haven't made, and I don't recognize covert contracts.
[–]2102105[S] -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
If you're in a relationship, you've made an implied promise. It's a social norm, and has been for longer than either of us have been alive. Claiming that you don't recognize that "covert contract" is tantamount to crossing your fingers while lying and saying it "doesn't count."
If she's a plate and you've made no commitments, that's a different story.
[–]Senior ContributorMentORPHEUS2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
If you're in a relationship, you've made an implied promise.
relationship != monogamous relationship.
OP, have you ever consensually had more than one partner at the same time? Honest question.
[–]2102105[S] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Unless you've explicitly discussed a non-monogamous relationship, I think it's very reasonable to assume monogamy "out of the box" as soon as you move into a relationship.
I've had multiple plates at the same time. All understood that I was/am seeing other people. Never multiple women when seeing someone long-term, or beyond "plate status."
[–]Senior ContributorMentORPHEUS2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
reasonable to assume monogamy
A covert contract, and a foolish one for either party.
I've had multiple plates at the same time.
Fair enough; I wanted to sound out if your were experienced, or just a horrified onlooker.
I nominally agree with you, but life has shown me that "absolutes" are indeed malleable in certain circumstances. It's one of the reasons "Sexual strategy is amoral" is such a thing here.
[–]The-Ban-Hammer1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Assuming monogamy out of the box is a naive thought.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Its what a lot of chicks do after y'all fuck. "So, does this mean were dating?"
Uh, did I fuckin say were dating? Lmaooo
[–]The-Ban-Hammer0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It is what a lot chicks do after fucking... Unless they have other guys on the side that they prefer. Then the script is flipped.
[–]Synsin0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This is an interesting read as I'm relatively new to the red pill. I've been seeing someone for roughly 3 weeks now and while the sex is alright - I find I'm not that into her. She's a sweet girl but on my end the attraction isn't really there. I'm getting concerned in that she's starting to get attached in what started out as a casual thing.
Now comes a girl that I am attracted to. We haven't done anything yet but she's into me. I've never had more than one relationship at a time so I feel like I'm at a crossroads.
There's a lot opinions on here and maybe it's leaning towards BP, but I feel more inclined to leave one before pursuing someone else. I've been cheated on and I wouldn't wish that on anybody.
My view - I don't like to lead anyone on. If she's okay with casual sex leading nowhere, I'm okay keeping it going. If she expects it to go somewhere and I don't, I walk away.
[–]Luckyluke230 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I veiw it now as, " it's gunna happen. when it does, cut all ties and fuck other women"
remember you down own her, It's just your time
[–]mo10000 -2 points-2 points-2 points 10 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I lie to them time and time again to get what I need. Applying morality to them is just stupid, they are just a means to an end.
[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points-2 points 10 years ago [recovered] (13 children) | Copy Link
That is exactly how I feel about them. Just a means to an end: that end is me busting a nut. Kids and orgasms, all they're good for.
[–]mo10000 1 points1 points1 points 10 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Apparently people here can't handle dumb bitches getting cheated on.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago [recovered] (0 children) | Copy Link
For real. Play or be played.
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[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
No. Fuck being decent. The majority of them are trash and deserve to be treated like so. And of course, they love being treated like trash. So its a win win.
Women get 0 compassion from me.
[–]Drogba0061 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
I've been shit on myself. Do you glare at them walking down the street? If you aren't decent how do you even find an opportunity to treat them like trash?
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Oh nah. I misunderstood. I thought you meant treat them decent. Treating them decent doesn't equal tingles.
[–]Drogba006-1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Treating them decent in the sense of human interaction and politeness, not "a hat tip for you m'lady". Charming them is different
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I mean I don't go out of my way to shit on them, that's insecure. Nor do I pedestalize. Im just indifferent . unless I'm bored, then I'll interact to entertain myself. And I'm able to charm em real easily. Admittedly, I'm kind of obnoxious but I think that's part of my charm. Some of the chicks iI've been with told me I'm arrogant and annoying/obnoxious/aggravating but they couldn't understand why they liked me so much.
[–]Drogba0060 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I see. I have to check myself actually, I will find myself getting really really annoyed with listening to college aged girls speak
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Same here. They're so fucking vapid and annoying, and they care about the stupidest shit. I don't even want their company, or a conversation, the only reason I talk to a girl is practice & a means to ends, that ends being fucking. And after we fuck, I just want her to leave me alone. like gtfo.
[–]1jimjackjoe-1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Interesting that this is down-voted. I like to analyze why things get down-voted or up-voted usually more than I like the content of the posts themselves. In this case, it's down-voted largely because of the preachy tone and this statement:
You know that you gave a promise (implied or otherwise), and you broke it.
Specifically, it's the "implied promise" part that people are railing against. This statement makes it seem like OP believes men have to remain exclusive if they are in a serious relationship with a woman. But I don't think that's what OP meant. I think what OP is saying here is actually something more along the lines of "honor your word," which is sound advice as far as I'm concerned, at least for a certain type of man. But yeah, OP doesn't express that clearly enough, hence the down-votes.
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