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Does anyone here do any volunteer work and if so, what kind?

Thai_Hammer

November 2, 2013
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Title Does anyone here do any volunteer work and if so, what kind?
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Thai_Hammer

Upvotes 18
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Date November 2, 2013 6:42 PM UTC
(12 years ago)
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[–]monsieurhire2 46 points47 points48 points 12 years ago* (12 children) | Copy Link

I did do lots of volunteer work, but now I'm of the mindset that volunteerism is a scam. There is plenty of money produced by the Western countries. They could pay people to do this work. But they don't because they find that by indoctrinating people with idealism, they can get them to work for free, or for very little money. Think of all the work that needs to be done. Think of all the people who need money or jobs. Think of all the money being sat on by institutions and individuals who can't even spend it all fast enough. And they have the nerve to ask people to volunteer? Organizations like the Red Cross that take in hundreds of millions of dollars in donations, will then pay their executives and employees lavish salaries, and then ask people to donate their time as well as their money.

You also have to ask yourself who can afford to volunteer and what are they getting out of their volunteerism. Something to put on their resume? Networking their way into a cushy non-profit job? Experience that can be monetized somehow, such as by writing a book or an article, that can launch a literary or speaking career?

I also love it when I go to Whole Foods and they try to shake me down for some charity at the cash register. This is a corporation that punishes its employees with draconian compliance requirements, low wages, and NO FREE FOOD even though we all know that groceries throw away billions of dollars worth of food EVERY YEAR. They're also insanely profitable. I shop there because all the other stores are as bad, and because I don't feel like rolling the dice any more than I have to on nutrition, even if the whole thing turns out to be a lie, at least it provides some psychological comfort.

Having worked for several charities and non-profits, I assure you that most of the money gets pissed away. And these are legit charities, too.

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[–]monsieurhire2 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

The first two paragraphs of what you wrote are addressed by this one sentence that I wrote above:

"You also have to ask yourself who can afford to volunteer and what are they getting out of their volunteerism."

You clearly are a sophisticated person who not only can afford to volunteer, but who knows exactly what can be gotten from volunteering. Do all volunteers meet your profile? Not exactly. They're being exploited. You recognize an exploitative process and believe you can game it in your favor. Many people also make that same mistake because they fall for a second set of lies perpetuated by various cottage industries that tout the merits of volunteering. Ask yourself and ask people in the field that you are going into how necessary this volunteer work really is. Will it actually be determinative with regard to your salary? Or when it comes down to salary negotiations, will your employer shuck and jive at you, and say, "Well, we were looking for experience at a private employer or accredited institution, not mere volunteer work." Or "Well, that's how we USED to do things, but you know, the economy is real tight, pay no attention to my seven figure salary and my BMW, so we're just going to have give you take-it-in-the-ass pay for now until you've proven yourself."

Now imagine if nobody who could afford to volunteer, engaged in volunteering. Suddenly there would be all this work that needs to be done, or else there would be social problems. People might actually offer money for these jobs, and unemployed people could claim them.

And if volunteering is so great, why are the non-profits and charities mostly staffed with people from extremely wealthy families who don't even need a salary to live, but who still feel entitled to draw one, while denying the rank and file any wages? These fake-progressive leaders put on a show with flowery speeches, but then they don't even pay the people at the bottom of their pyramids, which makes them worse than Walmart and McDonald's as employers.

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[–]monsieurhire2 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, it looks like you and I are in violent agreement.

[–]TRP VanguardVZPurp 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Or even worse: the unpaid internship.

[–]monsieurhire2 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Another form of volunteerism.

[–]TRP VanguardVZPurp 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The worst kind, as the volunteers are looking for paid work and there's no delusion of charity

[–]I_eat_teachers 10 points11 points12 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

This guy. This guy gets it.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You also have to ask yourself who can afford to volunteer and what are they getting out of their volunteerism. Something to put on their resume? Networking their way into a cushy non-profit job? Experience that can be monetized somehow, such as by writing a book or an article, that can launch a literary or speaking career?

^ Pretty much primary reasons for volunteering. Others would include religious reasons (including abstract concepts like Karma) and if you are on social assistance or welfare you may be required to participate in something like a volunteer activity in order to get your welfare cheque... I would actually think that networking would be the biggest benefit to volunteering as many rich/wealthy/well-connected individuals do volunteer work and getting in contact with them can help you find a real job. Even when you have a full time job it's not bad to go spend a couple of hours doing something you like and possibly believe in.

I also love it when I go to Whole Foods and they try to shake me down for some charity at the cash register.

Personally, I find using cashiers to get charity donations pretty low and scummy. People who can barely scrape enough money to eat are being hit up for money and end up looking like cheapskates if they cant afford $1-2. I'm not opposed to passive means like a collection box at the cash register though.

[–]monsieurhire2 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Again: we're in violent agreement.

The problem is, the vast majority of volunteers aren't that sophisticated, and it still doesn't deal with the issue of taking away work in a society rife with unemployed people.

The people that ask you to volunteer are either rich, powerful, or both. They are that way precisely because people agree to work for them for free.

[–]cmhffemt 17 points18 points19 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Volunteer firefighter

[–]-Fony- 12 points13 points14 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

at the boys and girls club, teaching boys how to become men. surprisingly little feminist influence there.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Now that is a charity that TRP guys could get behind... teaching some young men avoid the traps that radical feminism has placed in their path of success.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I help run a free medical clinic in Mexico once a month. Used to be a Big Brother to an Eritrean refugee kid, until I had to move away for school. Helped him to learn English, and taught him how to drive... still have gray hairs from it.

[–]frugal_masturbater 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've volunteered at Habitat for Humanity. They're OK with people being atheists or whatnot, and I learn quite a bit building homes for people who are deserving, but lacking initial resources.

[–]ArchangelleManhater 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I volunteer at a nearby Salvation Army homeless shelter doing stuff like making soups.

[–]RC_5213 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I volunteer with Special Olympics. I've found very few things more rewarding than helping those athletes.

[–]milesarcher2013 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I volunteer at a homeless shelter for old men. I spend four hours a week helping cook, serving food and doing dishes.

I'm a real estate agent in a ridiculously expensive housing market. I get no networking opportunities from this. Men who live in tents don't buy condos.

Coincidentally, one thing I do get out of it is free meals from Whole Foods. They give all the day old sandwiches, salads and a bunch of other stuff to us. Most of it is still good. The $7 fresh squeezed OJ hasn't even hit it's sell-by date by the time we get it.

Many of the guys here are veterans. Some of them suffer PTSD symptoms like shaky hands or twitching so they sit and we bring their tray of food to them.

Local magistrates send people to the shelter to do community service when they have been found guilty of minor offences. I'm sure most of the guys who come here think I'm a pettty criminal who got sent over by the judge.

Sure, some charities are bringing in piles of cash and might not be distributing it in the most ethical of ways (breast cancer awareness pink ribbon campaign comes to mind), but I don't think anybody is getting rich off the place I volunteer at.

[–]TRP VanguardVZPurp 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Mentoring young men. Help them help themselves, cut through bullshit presented to deceive them. Not a part of any organization, just when I found young men who need guidance and are of good character. The respect is clear and noticeable. I've forged lifelong bonds; I highly recommend it.

Any other sort of volunteer work usually is a scam to get people to work for free.

[–]Endorsed Contributorleftajar 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I currently mentor two young men. One is 15 and the other is 19. It's awesome and rewarding.

If you want to give back, this is a great way to do it.

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[–]Endorsed Contributorleftajar 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Two things:

Shoot the breeze, bro them up, give them masculine energy.

Then, I give them awesome specific life guidance. I'm a successful entrepreneur and I'm pretty wise at this point. I'm thirty, and I tell them the sort of things I wished I knew at that age.

Why do you ask? Need some help with a particular situation? PM me if you like.

[–]12FAM0US 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

i volunteer at a children's hospital. bring my guitar and sing songs for terminally ill kids. i like it and feel like what im doing is meaningful. in any case these kids love it, smiles all around.

this is through a small organization and we only operate in Chicago (at the moment). i think a small NPO is really more trustworthy than a corporation. i appreciate the transparency and my time is put to good use

[–]data_stalker 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Volunteer firefighter, EMT.

[–]the99percent1 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes. Was president of a well known not for profit organization for 3 years.

Charities are littered with self righteous privileged phonies. Funds get swindled left right and center, flights here, flights there. Pointless activities that dont advance the cause. Infact lots of red tape ensures that the true reason the work you do gets lost in translation.

If you want to get involve, don't get in on the ground floor. Go to the AGM and asked to be nominated into a position.

I'd recommend it for your own personal development. Its good practice for you to own a room, portray yourself as a leader and be looked up by many people.

That 3 years was a fast track experience in losing all awkwardness in interaction and becoming a man of stature who knows how to dominate a roomful of people.

You get to meet lots of attractive girls too. Only slept with a handful. I was very picky and careful with whom I did the deed with as the reputation of my organization came first.

[–]rhettdu 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm on the board of a local charity. I used to do the books for a homeless shelter. I'm a volunteer paramedic.

I don't donate money (coz I got none). I donate time.

edit: oh yeah, blood too

[–]tilzilch 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

At our local shelter. Skip all the cog in a wheel crap and volunteer to walk some dogs. It's a direct and immediate positive result that you can see is making a difference. No human has ever been that excited to walk around with me for ten minutes. Makes my friggin day.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I volunteer for 3 organizations, currently.

T.A.P.S (Tragedy Assistance Program for Survivors) It's an organization that works with the surviving members of fallen service members. I work specifically with the children. One of the kids I worked with lost his brother in the Army and I got to spend a weekend with him just acting as an older brother. I've kept in touch with him and his family. I get to see them again this coming Memorial Day weekend. It's rewarding.

I work with Honor Flights (Honor Flights Chicago). I escort WWII veterans around Washington D.C. and the surrounding areas and going with them to their monuments and various historical attractions. It's rewarding.

I also work with Make-A-Wish as a wish granter, but I am very excited to start. It gives an opportunity for me to give back to a portion of the community (sick children) that I normally don't interact with. It's rewarding.

With all three organizations, I meet a large amount of people that I wouldn't normally meet. I've been able to network well for a junior enlisted member of the Coast Guard and I've also been able to give back to the community in my off time. It's a great feeling and I suggest everyone do it, just find an organization that you support.

[–]Ididerus -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I used to volunteer for Lowe's, I would give them my time and they would allow me to continue to eat food and sleep in shelter.

[–]batfish55 -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Why? My time is valuable. I'm not in the habit of just giving stuff away unless there's something in it for me. I never understood the point of volunteering, except in two cases:

1 - for some bullshit reason I'll never understand, it makes you look a LOT better on a college application.

2 - I've been told lots of wimmins do volunteer work. Supposedly it's a good place to meet them.

[+]watersign -16 points-15 points-14 points 12 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

Absolutely not. Volunteering is for poor people. Volunteer your time and money when you live off interest. Volunteering is blue pill to the max, IMO. I used to be somewhat of a socialist and more in tune with leftist ideaologies but i've come to realize that class warfare and income inequality is more akin to IQ inequality, in my opinion. Yeah, the 1% have tons of wealth and things are skimp now but if you're the kind of guy who makes getting money his priority and understands that avoiding debt is the only way to freedom, you can live pretty good and have wealth if you're smart. I run into so many people who claim "the man" is holding them down, they all work shitty jobs, have no skills, no ambition and are hooked on credit card debt.

I personally think that companies like Monsanto are doing gods work by poisoning our food supply. There are too many worthless people in this world who will never amount to anything and are destined for a life of suffering, pain and misery.

[–]TRP VanguardVZPurp 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Poisoning the food supply does not occur in isolation. If your plant is dangerous to human health, releasing it into the wild is going to affect everyone, not just your "target".

[–]watersign -3 points-2 points-1 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Exactly.

[–]TRP VanguardVZPurp 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly? I suppose it depends on your definition of worthless. For all intents and purposes, people with worth are affected too.

[–]VPAristotle -5 points-4 points-3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Volunteering is not manly. Grow up.

[–]Koleah 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Care to elaborate? Interested in your reasoning.

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