Does TRP have a double standard in evaluating men and women and is it justified?

wantonton · 2014-11-07T17:37:07+00:00

Women can swallow the pill, but it's much harder for them.

When a man swallows the pill, he is awakened to a world of increased opportunity and potential. It takes work, but the rewards are vast.

When a woman swallows the pill, she is forced to confront a world where she is no longer powerful. She has to accept that her value diminishes and that her past matters when determining her future.

The blue pill world is designed by women to keep them in power and they gain nothing by shattering that illusion.

Elim101 · 2014-11-07T17:45:26+00:00

Yes, women can improve. The "Red Pill Women" sub is for that. Go there and ask them how.

Red_August · 2014-11-08T04:30:57+00:00

"What I think I often see when reading posts and comments is the idea that the way women are is the only way that women can be. This is in contrast to the idea that men, through means such as TRP, can significantly better themselves and their capacities..."

You might be crossing some general TRP concepts here as the ideas you mention are not normally contrasted.

Topics on improving men go wide and deep here but generally when TRP speaks of men improving themselves, it focuses on topics about improving what will arouse women. TRP believes that the qualities that make men attractive to women, and arouse women, are in majority qualities that can be improved with work. There are exceptions of course - a man's height, for example, is difficult to change. Conversely, his leadership skills, athleticism, and power, to cite a few, are qualities that can be improved.

All humans can improve themselves, and I believe we very much support women improving themselves.

This leads me to touch on "the idea that the way women are is the only way that women can be". When TRP speaks in this voice, it doesn't refer to qualities a woman can improve; it refers to biologically determined behaviours in women. Inherent behaviours that can be attenuated or accentuated but behaviours that will always be present. For example, hypergamy or the desire for alphas are constants in our model. A woman's weight however is a variable.

Algermas · 2014-11-07T19:44:14+00:00

The nobler and more perfect a thing is, the later and slower is it in reaching maturity. Man reaches the maturity of his reasoning and mental faculties scarcely before he is eight-and-twenty; woman when she is eighteen; but hers is reason of very narrow limitations. This is why women remain children all their lives, for they always see only what is near at hand, cling to the present, take the appearance of a thing for reality, and prefer trifling matters to the most important. It is by virtue of man’s reasoning powers that he does not live in the present only, like the brute, but observes and ponders over the past and future; and from this spring discretion, care, and that anxiety which we so frequently notice in people. The advantages, as well as the disadvantages, that this entails, make woman, in consequence of her weaker reasoning powers, less of a partaker in them. Moreover, she is intellectually short-sighted, for although her intuitive understanding quickly perceives what is near to her, on the other hand her circle of vision is limited and does not embrace anything that is remote; hence everything that is absent or past, or in the future, affects women in a less degree than men. This is why they have greater inclination for extravagance, which sometimes borders on madness. Women in their hearts think that men are intended to earn money so that they may spend it, if possible during their husband’s lifetime, but at any rate after his death.

• Arthur Schopenhauer, "On Women" 1851

Artemisnotfowl · 2014-11-07T17:53:28+00:00

Women are ruled by their emotions while men use their logic.

tombreck2 · 2014-11-07T17:48:05+00:00

Obviously, I think self improvement is not limited to just one gender

Read "Women, the most responsible teenager in the house" on the sidebar for some answers.

UrsusG · 2014-11-07T17:53:24+00:00

Women can improve, but they have very little motivation to do so, because they can usually achieve their life/biomechanic/genetic goals just by having a pussy and showing up.

Title	Does TRP have a double standard in evaluating men and women and is it justified?
Author	wantonton
Upvotes	4
Comments	28
Date	November 7, 2014 5:31 PM UTC (11 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
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