How to own Stereotypes (example Asian)

BasicBeginner · 2016-06-12T13:47:25+00:00

Everything you talked about is just RP. There is no difference whether you're Asian or white in regards to applying RP.

zedsdedforever · 2016-06-12T10:50:01+00:00

Going to be very honest and direct. I have seen the difficulty that Asian men especially Asian chads also have when trying to get with white women. Your game is going to have to be top notch due to the real stigma and conditioning women have with the imagery of Asian men aka the most feminine physically male race.

seeing_red_ · 2016-06-12T15:07:58+00:00

But most of this is just running from the stereotypes. OP I like where you're going with "owning it" so I want to contribute with my own thoughts.

You're right, though, with the stereotypes.

Beta Asians are nerdy, lanky, awkward, and smart.
Alpha Asians are stylish, intelligent, talented, successful, manipulative businessmen/doctors.

To some degree I think Asians should reconcile their identity with what they want to be and what an Alpha Asian looks like.

A confident Asian stands out immediately

So true.

vengefully_yours · 2016-06-12T19:45:17+00:00

A military friend of mine is Asian, dude was small when we enlisted, he was 18. The entire two years of our first base in Germany he lifted, got Bruce Lee ripped and started packing on mass. He was fanatical about it. I saw him 10 years later at a different base and didn't recognize him, but he knew me. He was always trying to catch up to where I was for mass and strength. He's 46 now, can bench well over 350. He is not the stereotype. He got lots of ass, white girls are easy for him.

If you're Asian, get serious about lifting.

I play to my stereotype, bad boy white man with lots of muscle. I embraced it and it's easy to be me now that I'm no longer the fat weak kid. I put in the work to get big, and is paying off in my 30s, 40s, and soon 50s. Do it now while you're young, it's vastly easier than trying to change everything about yourself at my age. Embrace who you are and be the best version of it you can be.

AtlasAtlasAtlas · 2016-06-12T11:42:35+00:00

The only way to own a stereotype is too be good looking. When your good looking the halo effect kicks in and race really doesn't matter.

You think Godfrey Gao has the asian sterotype problems?

It's shit but it's the way the world is.

Spongejong · 2016-06-12T18:19:15+00:00

My 2 cents as that "Asian" kid in high school who got better.

Im guessing you are Asian your self and you are saying from experience. I still don't know why people thin Asian dick is small. Maybe mine is just average sized, and Ive never noticed. Honestly this guide looks like its just a RP thread to get you laid. Does not cover actually how to improve yourself, (except lifting and some mental shit). To Asian people trying to improve, if you don't plan on selling your soul/life just to get some pussy or be a "cool kid," read this, but follow your own path.
The Westerners are blind to see that not just their way to get to the ladies is a proper/legitimate way. Sure, they do give you some nice basic guidelines that apply to most men, but don't believe all that PC shits. I would like to think I am not racist, but I do see all race and gender as biologically different. Asian men, stay true to your identity, be yourself, and not getting pussy, or the approval of other men will end you peace living in America.
But god damn, stand your fucking ground. We do live in a society where Asians have this stereotype against us. If you walk, walk with some pride, own your space, be kind and respectful. But when someone crosses your line, be like Mao, be like Kim Il Song, be like Park Chung Hee. Stand your ground and make someone else pay for it

greasyeddy · 2016-06-12T23:49:16+00:00

All good, unless you aren't into turning your back on your heritage. Be a fucking boss like you described, and fucking own being Asian the right way -- with pride. I liked your post, thank you.

sarc0lupus · 2016-06-12T14:01:01+00:00

You can own the East or South Asian stereotype if you: -Are good looking and ripped -Or if you absolutely completely are the opposite of it: by doing this, it creates contrast, and you become incredibly mysterious to women you approach.

If you're an Indian guy, but look street, with fucking muscles, a cropped haircut, an edgy fashion sense, a slow-speaking American accent, Anglicize your name, and on weekends you water ski and have fucking Game, you will get laid - even if you are a stereotypical doctor or engineer. You stand out from the hunched over, skinny, fobby accent brown guys who stand in the corner of the club with their fobby friends and stare at hot white girls.

They will try to put you into their box "oh, weird, creepy Indian guy" - but then when you approach, well-dressed with an edgy haircut, full eye contact, kino and you're American/Australian/British accent, they will be blown away by your confidence.

When it comes to attraction and dating, there are negative and positive stereotypes; unfortunately for East Asians (Japan, Korea, China, Malaysia, Indonesia) and South Asians (India, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka), we are at the bottom of the pile (White > Black > Pacific Islander > Latino > Middle Eastern > East Asian > South Asian).

East Asians -Negative stereotypes: socially inept, effeminate, scrawny, short, un-athletic, small penis, always hang around among their own ethnic group -Positive stereotypes: traditional masculinity (samurai, karate), alternative culture (girls are definitely attracted to the very edgy East Asian guys with earrings, piercings, tattoos and fashion, who trump even the biggest white hipsters and punks). East Asians are also better dressed than South Asians. Think of salarymen and the alternative punk rockers of Harajuku.

South Asians -Negative: 7-Eleven owner, taxi driver, trolley pusher, cleaner, or a socially inept and weak doctor, IT, finance guy or engineer, smelly, poor hygiene, short, only hang out with their own race, stingy, fast talking, clowns and entertainers (think Aziz Ansari), sexually deviant (the bad press from Indians raping foreign tourists - and many Indian/South Asian doctors with sexual harassment cases), shit fashion sense (think of the poorly cut, bold coloured garbage the fobby Indian guys wear - usually bought from a bargain counterfeit store in their home country or Bangkok). -Positive: Sadly very few - South Asian guys are portrayed in the media as inept creeps (Raj from Big Bang Theory) or fast-talking, dancing-monkey-type clowns (Apu from the Simpsons, Ed from Scrubs, Kumar from Harold and Kumar). Hot girls may find South Asians "exotic" - but that vibe only works if you are good looking, ripped and very Westernised.

I disagree that since many hot girls are into yoga and meditation that all of a sudden they find South Asians attractive. No, these bitches are frothing over a toned white guy with a surfer's haircut teaching them yoga, and not Raj Srinavasan from Madras. The bitches into yoga and meditation are doing it for their own validation of being "cultured" and "educated" and have no fucking interest in the actual practices themselves - let alone the South Asian guys whose culture they have taken it from.

Also, the fact that East and South Asians are up there with Jewish Americans being the highest earning minorities, sadly does not make you more attractive (this does work for black or Latino guys but, since they are stereotyped as rough and street).

Your financial and career success just encourages carousel riders to try and lock down Asians when they hit the wall - they ignored you in their late teens and 20s, but now they're interested in you because they know you're safe. And sadly, a lot of Asians may fall for this since they've been ignored or rejected by many of these hotties.

The strong work ethic South and East Asians have mean you can - with enough effort - trump the natural and learned white alpha chads.

But you have to be in better shape, have better game, have better fashion sense and have a more diverse life than a white/black/Latino guy of similar intrinsic appearance.

RedPillFreedom · 2016-06-12T14:02:14+00:00

What's your take on owning the stereotype if they can't even identify you of that race?

Example: one of those light skinned arab or persian prince looking dudes. They are mistaken with Spanish or just a mix with some white. Another one, an Indian that doesn't look like the generic 7/11 bad bo nerd. I've even seen some white kids that look more Asian than some Asians.

Do you just play it off as you're the shit? The one above all those beneath you. You still say I'm apart of that race but you own it. Plus, you are not the stereotype because you are different. Just to show it doesn't effect you, home around with the stereotype.

A lot of people mix up my race so it gives me a lot of play when dealing with girls or people in general.

getRedPill · 2016-06-12T19:18:30+00:00

Game not bad at all for Asians in Latin America. Maybe you should come

ialdabaoth · 2016-06-12T21:24:00+00:00

Remember that humans - men and women alike - don't tend to process social dynamics in terms of facts; they process in terms of narratives.

Our culture has lots of narratives to pull from, mostly provided by the media for the past century.

You need to look a part, and then act that part, and then have the resources to back that act up. You need to find someone famous who you could emulate, and then own that narrative by incorporating parts of yourself into it.

The narrative role women are most looking for in an alpha is the 'bad-ass'. So look back and ask yourself, who do you know in your gut was a bad-ass?

If you're east asian, look to Bruce Lee.

If you're south asian / indian, you're going to have a harder time, but being cut, confident, rich, well-dressed, slow-speaking, and in control will go a long way.

Tipsy247 · 2016-06-13T03:55:12+00:00

Seriously, what is the deal with white women?. They agree pretty badly to begin with. They deteriorate.

fuu969 · 2016-06-13T18:30:38+00:00

stereotypes are like a jail in your mind

sculd · 2016-07-18T00:59:29+00:00

This is also extreme in the opposite way.

sculd · 2016-11-25T05:04:41+00:00

or what about screw friends because you don't care?

metallica11 · 2016-06-12T13:22:03+00:00

on the note about asians having a hard time getting big from lifting - it' s a definite truth. I am asian and it has taken me around 6 years of serious lifting to get my bench press to around 255/260, whilst most white people I know hit that after 1/2 years of lifting in the gym NON SERIOUSLY. I have seen african americans hit it after 3-4 months easy. (this is after very little previous weight training).

But for some reason we have great leg/ab genetics........terrible chest/shoulder genetics.

ACE-JHN · 2016-06-12T18:19:13+00:00

Asian guy here (Indian)

It's hard as fuck at first because lifting and improving yourself takes time, but what helped me most is getting leaner. Having a prominent jawline and haircut, made a ton of difference. Women literally will stare and hold eye contact with you. "White women" are the most receptive especially when they say things like " you are so different than the other Indian guys I know". Only bad thing you have to watch out for is the ones that are looking for a beta bux. I was a nobody in highschool but college is a different ballgame and all the cute popular girls are now chubby and wanna fuck you....... ego boost is crazy.

2016-06-12T22:58:24+00:00

I hope OP is a white guy. I love the idea of a white guy explaining to Asians what their stereotypes are that they need to be better.

dareealmvp · 2016-06-12T14:02:43+00:00

Just to clear up a point, are you talking about Oriental Asians or South Asians? Because as far as I know, South Asians have it far worse than Oriental Asians. There are several more stereotypes attached to South Asian guys than to Oriental males (more spineless and compliant with parents, your next door 'creepy Paki' etc) and also South Asians are darker in skin color which is obviously a disadvantage and unlike blacks, who are obviously the darkest in skin color, do not have positive stereotypes associated with them (great body, long black dick, masculine and thug etc). Also average height in India is shorter than that of most Oriental countries by an inch or two.

Note that I'm Indian living in India and most of my information is only accumulated from the internet, and my personal experiences with the white tourists here.

That said, I've come to realize, that being in the race of males that is the lowest in social status by default, is an advantage in itself in a way other than what you've mentioned. In fact, had I been white, I would have never actually chosen the red pill. I could have easily gone the blue pill way and still gotten a oneitis and hell it would have worked quite decently. I see so many white guys in my college who come in as foreign exchange students, who go the easy blue pilled way and living in a oneitis and the Indian girls in my college are still drooling over them.

In some way being Indian, the race of males that is the lowest social status by default and the least attractive to women, made me hit rock bottom real fast. I quickly lost my previous oneitis who was a blonde living in NY (yeah hate to admit but I had a 'long distance' going on) and after several nights full of nightmares and some really dumb crying over like a blue pilled faggot, I decided to man the fuck up and do whatever it takes to get up. I was so desperate I was ready to increase my attractiveness by hook or by crook. That's when I discovered Pick Up Artistry-Bobby Rio, Adam Lyons, Jason Capital, etc and later on the red pill.

Naruto94 · 2016-06-12T10:59:30+00:00

Build social media in which you showcase yourself as a total baller. This is important to immediately dissociate yourself further from other asians, when chicks stalk you after meeting and they will.

Could you shed some light on showcasing social profiles as a total baller? Do you mean more athletic pictures and updates ? Or party pictures with hot women ?

why_fucking_not · 2016-06-12T13:11:37+00:00

Upvote for total baller!

Hier bin ich übrigens, du weißt auch ganz genau, wer gemeint ist.

TermsOfColors · 2016-06-12T18:12:39+00:00

especially white chicks Talk to white people Hit on white chicks This is important to immediately dissociate yourself further from other asians

I guess it sucks being like a fish out of water, but I have to admit I don't really understand the mentality beyond that.

There are over a billion people in China. Combine the population of China and India and you have over a third of the population of the planet. That's just two countries out of 196? in the whole world. They must be doing something right in regards to sexual strategy.

One personal anecdote - I ran into an old college acquaintance a few years ago, he is Asian and his family were Montagnard refugees from years ago. He married a white girl after college. He was showing me pictures of his kids, he said "They look white, don't they? They don't even look Asian" very proudly. I thought it was weird.

piethon3 · 2016-06-13T14:07:32+00:00

Yet another where the white womenz post today jfc. Minorities all just frothing ay the mouths to get white pussy

dudet23 · 2016-06-12T23:48:00+00:00

Why don't you just date your own fucking race? Then you don't have to worry about being a "stereotype".

But no. All you dark mfers feel entitled blonde blue eyed aryan girls. Guess what if everyone one of you got one that wants one they wouldn't exist anymore and we'd all be brown like you.

So sick of western race mixing culture. Whites are a global minority.

poopcasso · 2016-06-12T16:01:23+00:00

I disagree with breaking away from your stereotype to stand out. Instead of building something you're not, improve something you already are. Wearing glasses? Okay, so fucking what. Either you ugly or you not, and having glasses or not won't change that. Being a baller and leader comes down to mentality and self image, not shallow appearance. You can be an ugly fuck as long as your status is high cause you rich you get the white chicks you want. Sure, being handsome is straight up best way. But Asians mostly aren't and no matter wtf you do you still Asian and you ain't that masculine 5 o clock shadow guy. What you got is style and class cause you got money and money can buy those things. Once that's in the box, all you need is to know you got money and money talks. If you can't get rich, it's just survival of the fittest acting out.

Title	How to own Stereotypes (example Asian)
Author	CRAIBaby
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Date	June 12, 2016 9:49 AM UTC (10 years ago)
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