I have always been a "nice guy". I started working on myself a couple of months ago and by December was becoming more dominant and alpha. However, I let myself go and now I am beta again. Is it the same for all non-natural alphas?

cascadecombo · 2015-02-20T02:36:02+00:00

So it basically sounds like you have very little experience and you get performance anxiety.

When you realize this you over think it and start to feel like shit because you think you should be doing better.

Is that close at all?

If you want it to come naturally it takes time and practice. I think you know that but it takes much more than a month or two. After you have enough girls showing interest in you it'll become mundane and boring and then you will stop caring.

MoneyStatusLooks · 2015-02-20T11:42:06+00:00

You are probably just an introvert. I am too.

A lot of people consider extroverted qualities more alpha than introverted qualities. It's not the case, unless its accompanied with shyness/anxiety, it's just how you were born and there is no way of changing it to a certain extent.

There are quite a few of the 48 laws of power that introverts have an edge in. Specifically:

conceal your intentions
always say less than necessary
make people come to you
win through actions, never through argument
use absence to increase respect/honour
keep others suspended in terror/cultivate an air of unpredictability
plan all the way to the end

I have found as an introvert, I am naturally incredibly good at each of these. So play to your advantages, everyone has some innate ones.

trp_angry_dwarf · 2015-02-20T05:23:33+00:00

Fake it till you make it means that one day, something in your brain will just go "ping!" and then you've made it.

It happened to me about 4 years ago when I realized I was in charge of my workplace even though I was one of the lower ranked guys there.

Wasn't even about women in my case. I became red pill at work first then started transferring that to bars and malls. Day game is easy for me.

Edit fat fingers on mobile.

DolorousRedd · 2015-02-20T04:27:02+00:00

Don't put men on a pedestal. They are X/Y, they get off on dopamine, oxytocin, serotonin. They have Testosterone. And so do you. You're a bundle of chemicals. So are they. Men are naturally Alpha. It is nurture which changes things, not nature.

Can anybody see your inner turmoil? Do they see your stomach drop? No, so why assume that others do not have a similar experience? This is my own opinion but rightly or wrongly I think it helps to view people as exceptionally arrogant monkeys. We are not Holy. We are not magic. We just are. We have this awful habit, our own arrogance, that humans are special. We aren't. We share fucking 95% of our DNA with bananas or whatever stat that is.

Don't hold yourself back by perceiving others as something special. They aren't. They're overwhelmingly the same as you with a few different genes. You will never experience another persons emotions or consciousness. So don't fret it. Natural Alpha at the club? For all you know, he cried himself to sleep that night. Maybe he's got a micropenis he is trying to compensate for. Maybe he's genuinely the most Alpha who walked the Earth with a ten inch dong and an eight figure bank account. Doesn't matter. You'll never know and you should endeavour to not let it affect you.

You have it in you to do as well as any other dude on the planet. You just have to back yourself and have a crack. You do not feel guilty because of "you", "you" is figment of your imagination. You are a chemical profile and 23 pairs of chromosomes. You've had that guilt forced upon you by society to keep you in line. Alpha men are not the kind of men powerful people want to deal with.

So whatever I went on a bit of a tangent there, but my point is the mindset some people are naturals and others aren't is toxic. By virtue of your gender, you are a natural. You may not feel like it now, but you've got to accept that sometimes shit just doesn't go your way and your body betrays you. There's nothing natural about never feeling self-doubt or sadness. You can't let it own you, but there is no shame in occassionally feeling a bit shitty.

NeoreactionSafe · 2015-02-20T15:57:02+00:00

Can an athlete get out of shape?

Sure.

How to you get back into shape?

Return to good habits and discipline.

What is so hard to understand?

Master1176 · 2015-02-20T02:56:55+00:00

You have gained some skills, but more importantly you have gained understanding. Create your light from within. Find what you love and throw yourself into it. That may be your career or it may be something else. If you can't figure that out, I'll give you one. Find your strongest talent and use it to make the world a better place. Money will often follow passion.

There is really no such thing as an Alpha or Beta, those words just describe behaviors.

Not even the greatest 'Alphas' ever reach a point where they're Alpha Forever. We all must adapt and change when necessary, and the first step to being a Master is admitting that you'll never know everything.

Go bang that cashier and get back on the horse. You're doing great so far, we've got your back.

SkorchZang · 2015-02-20T05:30:03+00:00

That's where you're wrong dude. You will in time reach a point where "alpha" will be your normal default behavior. Being a complete asshole will be almost effortless for you. All you gotta do is keep applying what you learn and practicing.

There's a big difference between reading something in the sub, agreeing with it intellectually... versus doing something new according to your new understanding, and reaping the real world wildly positive results. The latter kind of RP experience keeps freaking your brain out and causes it to rewire itself. It wants you to succeed too. But you just been too scared and beaten down all your life to even try. Of course it's taxing now, when you're tring to change many beta habits, you're going against the grain hard.

You're getting into your anger stage, and it so happens that your anger is self-directed instead of being aimed at women.

GuitarHero07 · 2015-02-20T13:42:11+00:00

If you "slid back into your Beta ways" that means you did not truly internalize the "Alpha mindset." It's not going to be easy and it will take time. Remember, you have a lifetime of conditioning to undo. Some of the programming runs very deep.

Any Beta can pretend to be an Alpha. In fact, initially this is a good strategy (fake it til you make it). But it will require time and consistent effort to truly change your core mentality. Just like one can't go from being a stick figure to winning bodybuilding shows overnight, truly internalizing the Alpha mindset will take time.

Keep reading this subreddit and other pertinent material (blogs, books etc.) Keep hitting the gym hard. Keep pushing yourself and never be content in your comfort zone. When you notice lower thinking infiltrating your thoughts, take a deep breath and disavow them; you are not your thoughts.

Belerion · 2015-02-20T13:40:57+00:00

Work on your inner state. You can imitate certain behaviors, but that will always require great effort unless your inner world and outer world are in consonance. If you lack self confidence, if you doubt yourself, if you feel that your desires are not valid, then you're going to have a very hard time reflecting the opposite persona.

Learn to love yourself, to be comfortable with unknowns, and that your desires are as important if not more so than anyone else's- then what you refer to as "alpha" traits will flow naturally and effortlessly from that place.

Also understand that not every day is the same. You will have up days where confidence comes easy, and you will have down days where maintaining the right inner state requires more conscious effort. This is where self-development, endurance, and stoicism come in.

Remember that life is play. If you're not having fun, you're doing something wrong.

rpscrote · 2015-02-20T16:23:32+00:00

A helpful partial solution is to really optimize your T to Cortisol ratio for a better "baseline" mental state.

I have been working on simultaneously reducing cortisol and increasing T and I find that when I keep to my schedule rigorously, I wake up with a better mental perspective, things bother me less, I find it easier to look on the bright side of things, I'm slower to anger but still quick to passion/excitement. I will do a full post on it as it has muscle building physiological effects but a solid roster of mental effects too.

Fuck_shadow_bans · 2015-02-20T22:47:07+00:00

As much as guys in here don't want to admit it, "alpha" and "beta" are completely contextual reactions. Even the most alpha red piller isn't going to walk into the CEO's office and start trying to big league him. You recognize that in the context of work, you are (in most cases) NOT the alpha. It's very fluid.

Then there's always the internal context as well. In high school I wrestled. In practice, I did very well and very few of my teammates could beat me, even ones from higher weight classes. But I went more than half of my first season before I got a win in a real match. My breakthrough came when I went out to the mat and I realized I was wrestling this little fattie butterball of a kid. It was like a lightswitch went off inside my brain. My attitude turned from one of apprehension to "I could spot this motherfucker 14 points and there's still no way he could beat me." I pinned him in under 30 seconds. My internal mental states were limiting me from performing at my true level because I was afraid. It took something external for me to realize that.

so I guess having to do the same with my emotions and mentality.

Absolutely. If you don't work on your inner self, you will never reach your potential. There are a lot of good books on self-actualizing (and about 1000x more bullshit ones so be careful which ones you pick), but definitely read up and practice their techniques.

oldredder · 2015-02-20T09:16:11+00:00

You're right. I see this in fakers any time of day.

But as long as you comprehend this and manage it you're red pill. The red pill isn't alpha or beta, it's admitting the truth of the world and your Self.

That's it. And make the best of it.

DarkZenMaster · 2015-02-20T09:12:28+00:00

Alpha, beta, theta, does not matter what you think you are, but as long as you can go and get what you want, that's what it matters.

WeCantHaveFun · 2015-02-20T19:43:04+00:00

Found all that monkey dancing isn't worth it? Join the club.

"Normal" bitches are for homemaking, and even then they're overpriced. Whores are for fucking in this modern world. The price is right if regulation is low enough.

Dragontitz · 2015-02-20T03:36:18+00:00

snort adderal. if you don't mind the crippling addictions it can spawn, it's pretty good for being confident and collected

just cycle it i guess

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