Is it possible that it's in women's sexual strategy to mislead guys and confuse them?

RedSunBlue · 2013-10-09T12:41:18+00:00

Most women -- at least the ones I have come across in my scant score and 8 years on this planet -- are good at hiding the truth about what attracts them because they themselves are unaware of the machinations behind their desires. It is very rare to meet a woman who will say, "You know, I want to like a self-deprecating nice guy with a good job...but that guy over there with the tattoos, muscles, and irrational self-confidence just makes me horny as fuck."

Once again, Rollo Tomassi has already covered this on his blog:

Most women are literally oblivious to the underlying motivations of their sexual selections / attractions. Evolution has largely selected-for human females with a capacity to form psychological schemas that preserve an ego-investment that would otherwise afflict them with debilitating anxiety, guilt, and the stresses that result from being continuously, consciously aware of their own behavioral incongruities. Evolution selects-for solipsistic women who are blissfully unaware of their solipsism. Hypergamy necessitates solipsism.

He also goes into more depth here:

Given the harsh realities that women had to endure since the paleolithic era, it served them better to psychologically evolve a sense of self that was more resilient to the brutal changes she could expect be subjected to. Consider the emotional investment a woman needs to put into mothering a child that could be taken away or killed at a moment’s notice. Anxiety, fear, guilt, insecurity are all very debilitating emotions, however it’s women’s innate psychology that makes them more durable to these stresses. Statistically, men have far greater difficulty in coping with psychological trauma (think PTSD) than women. Why should that be?

Deadeye207 · 2013-10-09T10:28:36+00:00

Its economics. If women said they liked sex that would mean that they value it, that is that they would WANT to receive it. As it stands women are the gatekeepers of sex, if they all collectively act as though they do not value sex they can raise the price (what you are willing to do to get it) much higher than if guys knew they they also enjoyed it. That is why "slut shaming" is mostly a female defense mechanism. One girl giving out sex below the price set by the others risks lowering the price for everyone due to increased competition. They shame them into raising the price again. This is also why male sex toys are seen as "creepy" and "gross" while female ones are "empowering" only one of those groups of items lowers the value of female sex.

2013-10-09T08:05:33+00:00

Most women don't want to be seen as slutty, they believe that liking/enjoying sex or being attracted to male anatomy makes them a slut. It doesn't... A women's lack of desire or inability to keep partners around in commitment (lots of meaningless sex with random dudes) makes you one.

Also, women probably want to feel different or unique, perhaps they think "NAWALT" gives them more value.

That is my view

PinkfloydPurplefloyd · 2013-10-09T09:55:42+00:00

Anti-slut defense combined with close-minded solipsism. They don't know that pretending to be a chaste virgin would fuck with teenage boys lol. They only care about not being seen as a slut.

Zackcid · 2013-10-09T17:35:06+00:00

Women dont like weak men. The day you realize that the day you will be successful with women. You have to be strong physically and emotionally.

vacuu · 2013-10-09T18:52:48+00:00

I think men are "positive" and women are "negative". When a man says something, it's what he means, when he reasons he can discover the causes for issues he has. On the other hand, women say the opposite of what they mean, they really want the opposite of what they think they want. Their reasoning doesn't really use reason. Notice in TBP that they typically reflect what we write but switch everything around. Like, they'll take a post or paragraph and just reverse everything in it, or they'll exaggerate it to change it's meaning or distort words or ideas, as opposed to writing original OPs about speculation or theory. I think this is just a feminine attribute. It's clear why they need strong positive leaders because of this self-contradictory trait, because without them they get stuck in moving in circles. And we probably need contradiction to give us different perspectives on our otherwise positive, laser beam conclusions.

Rollo-Tomassi · 2013-10-10T15:37:14+00:00

You guys might find this post relevant: http://therationalmale.com/2011/11/09/the-tool-of-asd/

Anti-Slut Defense is exactly that, a “defense.” It is an automatic moral high ground that any and every woman has the ability to claim. It is the feminine prerogative in it’s rawest form, but it is a social contrivance and possibly the single most useful tool a woman has next to her sexuality. It is one thing for a woman to be sexual, arousing, erotic and enticing, but it is quite another thing for her to be sexually available. This is the secret of feminine seduction; the prospect of sexual pleasure without the promise of sexual availability. And the tool – the social mechanism – used to effect this contrivance of feminine virtue is ASD. There had to be a sociological schema created – a set of common rules backed by an unassailable moral stance – that would allow a woman to operate, and practice her methods of sexual selection without the worry of the social accountability that her otherwise fickle and seemingly indecisive behaviors would draw attention to. Thus the importance of feminine virtue comes into the popular consciousness.

With ASD as a tool, a woman can operate unhindered in her sexual selection. As much as people want to take issue with me about Plate Theory, women have been employing it for centuries and the tool that is ASD has only made them better at it. In today’s western culture (and a lot of others as well) she’s got the best of the new rules and the old. A woman can be as flirtatious as she wants, be as arousing and flighty as she pleases and still enjoys the female prerogative to “change her mind”, to be concerned with her virtue. And we, as properly conditioned chumps, nod our heads in agreement with the girl who just won the wet t-shirt contest when she says she wont sleep with us because she’s “not THAT kind of girl.”

cagethepepper · 2013-10-09T19:27:44+00:00

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FortunateBum · 2013-10-10T22:41:25+00:00

I think most women today will claim that they love sex. Oh, just as much as guys too. Guys will say this as well. Why? Your guess is as good as mine. I still don't know.

I think a lot of women have come to see their lack of interest in sex as embarrassing. Almost like admitting you're a virgin. You also won't attract many men if you claim to not like sex that much.

I think the 70s sexual revolution may have put that conception in place. It was trendy and awesome to fuck and if you didn't, you were a loser. All very countercultural.

RevDrStrangelove · 2013-10-09T07:44:21+00:00

I can't relate to that at all.

no_game_player · 2013-10-09T12:48:17+00:00

Responding to your title without reading your post yet:

Is it possible water is wet?

Edit: Responding to the post:

So, I was debating with a girl earlier today

So there's your first problem right there.

She answers that women "come in a zillion flavours and are all different".

Oh look, NAWALT.

lol @ the entire next paragraph

As for why, I don't know and I don't care. The world is the way it is. The goal is to get what you want with the minimum personal compromise.

W-Z-R · 2013-10-09T10:57:58+00:00

I made a thread on this and it wasn't received very well because it sort of said that feminism has a place in redpill. The general idea was that things like feminism and not telling the truth about their preferences allow them to weed out genuine "alpha" genes from actors.

EDIT: It works both ways though, the male analogue of this is losing attraction for a woman when you find her breasts are fake and that she's had plastic surgery, physical attributes signal health and how good a person will be as a mate, so if yours are faked, he/she will lose attraction.

Title	Is it possible that it's in women's sexual strategy to mislead guys and confuse them?
Author	Zackcid
Upvotes	28
Comments	40
Date	October 9, 2013 7:28 AM UTC (12 years ago)
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