It's just so bitter

Ochreata · 2014-07-24T14:52:56+00:00

Keep going, you are already at stage four of the Kubler-Ross model. Only way is up now.

Misteralcala · 2014-07-24T18:48:03+00:00

Women. Yes, it's easy to demonize and hate women if you don't understand them, but hating will get you nowhere. The hate comes from being raised to believe the mythos of female purity and goodness, only to realize that women are just as human and fallible as men. What's worse, they get a pass for their shitty behavior, while men are held accountable. Again this is a symptom of society, and many a poor soul has died broken and defeated trying to change society. A fool fights to change the world, but a wise man strives to change himself. You can't hate women for being women. If anything, be glad you're a man. What's more, you're a man who has taken steps to insure that he maintains frame in his own life and his interactions with women.

Alpha and beta are thrown around a lot, and it's not a diagnosis of a person, like some sickness that can be assessed and prescribed a red pill for.

Rather, beta and alpha are the mindsets (or frame) you have when interacting with others.

To me, being beta means you need validation from others to feel good about yourself. You believe that by default, when interacting with others, you will receive an equal amount of respect / affection / friendship as you give. You put others first, even if that means sacrificing your own comfort and well-being, thinking that your actions will be returned or rewarded. In other words, in a perfect world, this is how things should be.

To me, being alpha means that receiving validation is nice, but it's not your goal when interacting socially. You realize your worth and you only validate those who have earned your respect / affection / friendship. You come off as cocky to some, confident to others, but your lack of a need to please others affords you time to work on yourself. Women especially are attracted to you, because you are not kissing their ass, and instead your actions are asking them 'what makes you special? Why should I give you time?'

Some people on this sub need to realize that it's all causative: by improving yourself and focusing on yourself, you are doing and being the fabled 'alpha' that you want to be. You read it all the time here - women take notice when you improve yourself. Becoming alpha isn't acting this way or that, or doing this or that. It's just about doing for you and constantly improving yourself.

Edit: Welcome! The disgust and pain you feel are normal, but you have to sweat out the poison eventually so you can move on and improve.

TheSKSpecial · 2014-07-24T15:05:45+00:00

It's your choice; you can go your own way or you can use what you learned about female nature to get what you want from them.

Dakenfr · 2014-07-24T15:42:38+00:00

Natural selection.

Once you know the rules of the game, you can either play them and swallow the pill, or don't improve yourself, stay co-dependant on attention seekers and get treated like shit(some are more lucky than others, but beta behavior comes at a cost).

It's all up to you, but at least now you are enlightened

icyhot39 · 2014-07-26T22:47:19+00:00

Well, I'm on about the same timeline. It is a bitter pill. Yet, I've found that as a result I once again have the tools for my success.

I can buy an affordable house, cheap car, and avoid most consumerism. I can save $ like crazy and potentially retire in 10-15 years instead of 30-40.
The amount of money I need day to day is almost laughable. Once I own a cheap place to live I could easily survive off $12k a year without really feeling poor. That is liberating.
I no longer feel like I'm worthless. Prior to TRP I valued myself, but didn't understand why I felt so out of control and hopeless. I was following the female imperative and hating it. It felt wrong but I couldn't identify and escape it.
Women are easier to understand off of their pedestal. Frankly they're advanced parasites. I don't hate them, but damn do I feel better without a tick burrowing into me and my resources.

I'm no longer a slave and that is priceless. Yes, the Disney dreams are over, but it's easier to accept what women can offer than being frustrated for not getting what I need while giving so much. Hilariously, the script for me has changed: give nothing and do shit for myself (without being an asshole), then get everything you ever wanted from women.

All in all I feel the same pain, but feeling in control and being the prize is worth it. I can build what I want without hindrance.

AreYouAware_ · 2014-07-24T17:40:44+00:00

That is the kick in the teeth of existentialism, isn't it? The only meaning of anything in life is what you give it.

What will you give it? Do you have the strength and will to conceive a reason? To make it real? To live it?

What I or anyone else had chosen to do is irrelevant to you and your life.

Hokuto199x · 2014-07-24T19:47:00+00:00

You sure you're a "natural" beta and it wasn't just your upbringing? What was your example of relationship dynamics growing up?

Title	It's just so bitter
Author	The_BitterTruth
Upvotes	2
Comments	7
Date	July 24, 2014 2:30 PM UTC (12 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
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