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I've been helping men in /r/deadbedrooms. These posts make me disappointed in how society has failed to teach men.

MUTHAFATHAGENTLEMAN

August 1, 2014
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Title I've been helping men in /r/deadbedrooms. These posts make me disappointed in how society has failed to teach men.
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MUTHAFATHAGENTLEMAN

Upvotes 64
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Date August 1, 2014 5:28 PM UTC
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Comments

[–]Endorsed Contributorgekkozorz 63 points64 points65 points 12 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

It's funny because he's playing right into hypergamy. Like an obedient little lemming.

In an "ideal" feminist society, low-value men wouldn't even have libidos. They'd just lay down and accept that they are not womens' favorite sexual playthings, and would silence their sexualities accordingly. I'm not saying they MGTOW - they wouldn't stop providing or being life partners to single moms and post-wallers. But they would stop trying to bang them.

Meanwhile, the studly alpha 20%ers at the top of the sexual food chain would keep fucking their way through womens' ranks like crazed baboons.

It's why you see so many Jizzabel articles about approach-shaming. If you don't have game automatically, you don't deserve the company of women. You shouldn't be trying to approach them in bars or clubs. They're here to ride the carousel, and if you aren't the carousel, GTFO and wait your turn.

It's why women are constantly trying to shut down male spaces such as PUA and TRP that seek to teach men game. Non-sexual men shouldn't be learning how to become alphas. That's a job for the actual alphas. Betas shouldn't be trying to climb the ranks, they should be accepting their place at the bottom.

It's also why we keep seeing this "men are not entitled to sex from women" catchphrase being used. If a husband is frustrated that his wife refuses to put out for months on end, he's not supposed to complain that there's something wrong with this marriage. He's supposed to just sigh, update his spreadsheet, and keep on paying the bux.

Basically, women would just prefer that beta males just not have any sexuality whatsoever. They exist for companionship and provider status only.

By willfully chopping off his own balls, this guy is giving the feminist imperative exactly what it wants.

[–]1whatsazipper 12 points13 points14 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's why you see so many Jizzabel articles about approach-shaming.

Approach shaming is a way for women to remove competition by preventing the man from seeking it out in the first place.

[–]Endorsed Contributorgekkozorz 10 points11 points12 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's another facet of it which I did not cover. Good catch.

Yep, if feminists can intimidate men out of PUA culture, she can ensure that she has more options available to her when the time calls.

A lot of feminism boils down to exactly this - eliminating the competition to make the SMP easier for herself to navigating. See also: fat acceptance, slut shaming.

[–]myrptaway 10 points11 points12 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

It's why women are constantly trying to shut down male spaces such as PUA and TRP that seek to teach men game.

Meanwhile you can pickup any TEEN girl magazine and find articles and articles on how to game boys/guys. Most guys/boys dont even know there is a "game", theyre too busy playing videogames or playing outside.. but you can bet your ass little girls are googling "how to get my crush to notice me" like crazy and getting all kinds of advice

[–]reddiforlove 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is insightful and profound. Seriously, way to connect the dots.

[–][deleted] 30 points31 points32 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

That actually hurt to read. Dude would rather figuratively cut his dick off than lose his frigid wife.

This guy's already too far gone.

[–]Magnum256 12 points13 points14 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yea unfortunately society and our legal system is just as much to blame as his shitty wife.

For all we know he has 4 kids, a $600,000 mortgage, and 2 car payments.

He tells his wife to go fuck herself and get the fuck out for being a worthless, sexless cunt, and she takes him for everything. Now he's old, fat, balding, paying for 4 children and an ex-wife to live in his house while he catches the local bus back-and-forth between one of his three jobs and his shitty bachelor apartment in the slummy part of town.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Kinda one understands why would a lot of men rather go homeless ...

[–]1 Endorsed Contributormordanus 19 points20 points21 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I have actually been in that exact situation. I'm a married guy and for about 12 years of my 13 year marriage I have been in a dead bedroom. If you guys haven't been there you have no idea how lonely and depressing it really is. The one person that you have chosen to spend your life with refuses to love you and you get to sit there try to fix it endlessly. I finally found trp and found out what I was doing wrong and how to actually fix it. I went through a lot of hell with my wife with the constant shit tests as I changed into a new me but life is better now.

[–]MasonJarTeaDrinker 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm sorry to hear that you had to go through that stuff for so long man, I'm really happy to hear that you turned it around though. Good for you.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You should tell us your summarized story in a thread, it would be helpful.

[–]busior 38 points39 points40 points 12 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

I loled at idiots suggesting running and working out to wear him down. You can tell the people don't exercise at all

[–]MUTHAFATHAGENTLEMAN 18 points19 points20 points 12 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Heh, I caught that too. I exercise so that I have more sex drive and energy, not less.

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] 17 points18 points19 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

You're judging people for doing what ever the fuck they want? You're doing it wrong

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

At this point, anything that gets people to exercise is OK with me. :)

[–]juanqunt 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No, your train of thoughts is wrong. If you deny that you're working out to attract women, you're delusional. Trying to attract girls was not the reason why I got into lifting, and I have many goals in powerlifting and bodybuilding, but you can't deny that attracting women is a part of it. You can even say that picking up girls is for making you a better person, because you're doing it to improve your social intelligence.

[–]MUTHAFATHAGENTLEMAN 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Huh? I exercise because if I don't, I turn into a lethargic blob. I'm not trying to get ripped or something, I look good already.

[–]MooMooMooN 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

After a good lift or Kick boxing session I am GOOD TO GO!!

[–]Fine_Particles 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Extreme exertion lowers testosterone levels in men, sometimes to those of a castrated male, but by extreme I mean the workouts of an Olympic athlete or Tour de France rider. I guess that's why he said 15 kilometres of running a day.

Most heavy athletes use some form of testosterone supplement just to get back to a normal level. Being super low on testosterone actually makes men extremely depressed, even suicidal.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Being super low on testosterone actually makes men extremely depressed, even suicidal.

That it does, and not in a small way either.

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points24 points 12 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Take drugs because your wife doesn't desire you? What the fuck. I'm against medication in general but this is extra sick.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I'm against medication in general

wut.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points17 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Many people suggest medication when a lifestyle change is the more appropriate solution. America is an overmedicated society - take your attention pills in school, take your happy pills for work, take your sex pills for your boner, take your anxiety pills for your fears. Being against medication doesn't necessarily mean that someone hates modern medicine.

I'm "against medication" in that I don't like the mass quantities of ingestable substances to make our lives better. It's practically the modern cannibalism - what you eat has power! Eat the power, gain its strength! People insist on the magic edible cure for all of their life's problems, moreso, people insist on future ingestable cures for all their future problems. The pill to cure baldness, the pill to stop aging, the pill to increase youthful beauty! How about you stop slathering 8 lbs of lotions on your skin every day before you go lying in the sun? That may help most of your skin issues.

And for me, I don't like the feeling of pain killers. The mess with my mental psyche in a very profound way. I'd much rather have those for certain circumstances I've been in, but stop prescribing me pill-form morphine for a sore shoulder.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Sorry, I was being presumptuous.

I agree with what you say.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't apologize, dingus! There are plenty of good reasons to judge someone who says something like that without backing it up. I provided an out for the original poster, but I certainly don't want to put words in his mouth. He might be busy breathing out of it.

Plenty of people can hold these sorts of views for very stupid reasons. No need to apologize :D

[–]199639 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Many people suggest medication when a lifestyle change is the more appropriate solution.

In American studies, suggesting lifestyle changes to patients had no measurable effect on inducing those changes. We end up using medications for diabetes, HTN, etc. because patients are too fucking lazy to be bothered to do anything else.

The good news I guess is that this makes TRP men who stay fit and active stand out that much more, but it also means that the pool of suitable women is also decreased. I think it's sad that today just about any girl has 'a hot body' simply so long as she isn't a landwhale.

[–]widec -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Medication has it's purposes, I do things like take my flu vaccine because I don't like the idea of the chance of being bed ridden for weeks. We're definitely an overmedicated society, but it's partially your responsibility now to figure out if you need medicine for whatever your ailments are.

[–]1whatsazipper 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The problem is the abuse of trust. I don't know how people who don't have a background in medicine or related science manage to wade through the bullshit and unethical practices in the field.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 10 points11 points12 points 12 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

My wife suggested I take something to lower my testosterone several years ago. Blue-pill me seriously considered it. Red-pill me cannot even believe I was so stupid.

Why does the MAN have to LOWER his drive. Why doesn't the WOMAN have to RAISE her drive? Also, why don't more men tell their wives (lovingly) that if they cannot satisfy him then they will be supplementing.... Women have absolute power to deny, titillate, punish and reward. Men have only 1 power- our commitment. More men need to use it and many will find their wives actually enjoy sex with them after all.

[–]Magnum256 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I was actually dating a girl years back, we had been together for around 3 years, the first 2 years having lots of sex, everything was good, but it started to really decline in the third year around the time that she started taking some anti-depressant meds. I could sort of understand at the time since the anti-depressants supposedly caused a drop in libido so I was patient for awhile, but after a month or so of basically no sex I told her to go see her doctor and get something to boost her drive and she pulled a bunch of feminist horse shit on me about how it wasn't her problem and that if i had a problem with it i should go get something to lower my libido.

Two days later I packed up all her shit and told her to go back to her mothers.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

On the other side, one month or two, you are not really patient. From what I understand, being red-pill is also controlling your urges and having your priorities straight, being with a girl 3 years is a long time, maybe if I was a girl I would expect my bf to stick a bit longer in case of problems like that.

[–]Dick-Tracy 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

My wife suggested I take something to lower my testosterone several years ago

Aren't there serious long-term health risks associated with being low-T, though?

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Do you think women give a shit? If it doesn't benefit them then your out of luck.

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[–]Dick-Tracy 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

My male-at-birth cousin is working on an MtF transsexual adventure right now, and part of that has been to severely lower his testosterone count. I wonder if he's... she's.... they've lowered their T level to the point where it would be damaging.

Depression has been evident to me and I don't even talk to them that much.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I know a few MtF and FtM people. They basically have to go through puberty again. They all react differently to the hormone treatment, but almost everyone gets a second round of acne and almost everyone gets severe emotional sensitivity.

It does wreak havoc on the body, but the depression has as much to do with their reliving of their teenage bodies as it does with their social stigma and the reactions of others around them, often their closest friends and family, (potentially) changing their views of them as a person.

[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There seems to be a correlation between low-T and cardiovascular disease: http://fitness.mercola.com/sites/fitness/archive/2013/10/11/low-testosterone.aspx

[–]1whatsazipper 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The issue is that both of the sexes originally conceded some part of their mating urges in order to form stable long term relationships. By now, women have entirely reneged. Now relationships as they are typically serve the feminine imperative entirely, and most men have been convinced that this is acceptable.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

r/deadbedrooms is the inevitable result of when bitch betas meet up with ex-alpha widow women in a post-modern society. I'm surprised it's not a sub with like 500,000 Americans, just looking around at the couples I see in America.

[–]1spicy_fries 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I see so many effeminate couples, I'm wondering there is no way in fuck those two are banging.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They do at first. Gotta worm that hook in first. Presence of sex is a stronger incentive than lack of sex is a disincentive.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points15 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

You cannot help these men. They are the damned.

I used to be one of them until I snapped and shot my "give-a-fuck about monogamy" in the head.

I was at marriage counseling and I said (in a fit of rage) "there is an entire city of pussy right out those doors!"

I stopped, thought about it, and left. (Dread game: MAXIMUM LEVEL)

I look back at what a pathetic bitch I was and I just shake my head. Now, she tells the "my husband won't fuck me" stories to her friends (who feel the need to tell me), but I'm too busy working on myself. I read more. I run more. I'm better dressed,I'm better at flirting.

I just regret the years I wasted being blue pill thinking that it would make her attracted to me, if I only just tried harder to prove i loved herTM.

[–]1spicy_fries 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I just regret the years I wasted being blue pill thinking that it would make her attracted to me, if I only just tried harder to prove i loved her

Same here. But at least it was not an entire lifetime...

[–]87GNX 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This is an absolutely fucking hilarious response. I mean I would like to see this scene in a Coen brothers movie.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You should have seen the look on their faces (the counselor was female too)!

It dawned on me that I could, at any time, leave. It dawned on them as well - I imagine my look was like the first man who made fire because the wife's look was that of realization then terror.

The funny part is that after I left, I just went home.

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

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[–]MasonJarTeaDrinker 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

How did you come across it there? Did somebody mention it or did they offer advice and some type of link?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Reading this makes me so depressed and yet simultaneously glad that I have avoided this snare by being a loveless loser for so many years.

[–]MUTHAFATHAGENTLEMAN 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's never too late to correct something in your life. Your brain can be trained to do anything, so challenge yourself.

Think about the millions of people who have lived before, and how they and their actions have been forgotten. Think about how insignificant your fears of rejection are.

[–]TheIronViking 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Holy fuck is this real life? I can't imagine chemically sabotaging a part of myself in order to "fit" my wife's lifestyle. That's beyond beta, that's insanity. I can see taking meds for depression or anxiety to help with smoothing out a relationship, but sex drive is not a "problem" (outside of illegal shit.)

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[–]1whatsazipper 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Antidepressants in all their forms are a way to assist in solving the root of the problem

They mostly exist as a revenue stream.

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[–]scottlapier 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

that's usually not the case in the states. They try to get you hooked for life.

[–]niczar 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The vast majority are out of patent and available as cheap genetics.

[–]1spicy_fries 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

There is no way this is fucking real. This guy has hit the depressed sarcasm mode.

But then these same dudes go along with polyamory con...

...so I don't know. Maybe I shouldn't be so quick to disbelieve.

[–]WonkyRaptor 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's called a troll post. Welcome to the Internet.

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[–]manwhy 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Am I crazy, or are you including AAS in this assessment?

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[–]jobs33ker -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

change your body for Gender Identity Disorder

how is this any different than when you said:

But simply going on a whim saying, 'Hey, I'm going to take some of this to make me less horny' a woman!

Get the fuck out of here with that trans acceptance crap.

[–]Andress1 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I always had pretty much non existing libido because i abused porn and masturbation too much.When i quitted both i had extreme urges and libido.That feeling is GODLY.Never felt better in my entire life.I wonder what king of male would want to get rid of it.

[–]PedroIsWatching 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I just embarked on nofap as well, after 10 years of almost daily masturbation. Glad to see it works for TRP, It's going to take a while for me to rewire things.

[–]DoesNotMatterAnymore 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I remember the story when wifey got fat, so fat she didn't passed hubby's "boner test". So the bitch forced him to take viagra. whaaaaa.... Losing weight, get sexy again? Nah... that's too much work, just take the Blue Pill. Ironic color choice.

[–]DasWood 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What are you going to do? Force men, who were raised by single mothers who indoctrinated "just be a nice guy" into them from time of birth, to abandon a core part of their being?

This is why for the vast majority the first step to TRP is so painful. Learning they were lied to their entire life and knowing they must eject a core part of their being. It is also a step they must themselves take. You can't force them to do it and if you try force someone to unplug it will just steel their resolve.

[–]MUTHAFATHAGENTLEMAN 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeh I'm not force feeding anyone. I'm offering a different take on the same problems that crop up over and over.

[–]Kalepsis -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

What he needs to do is cheat.

[–]MUTHAFATHAGENTLEMAN 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't know that cheating is the right idea, but open relationships do prevent some of the sexual issues.

[–]angryuser_trp 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd like if he went through with the open relationship and then post an update about how his SO goes on fucking different men every other night, heh.

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