Just a little PSA for anyone who is still confused on exactly what maintaining frame looks like and what the result of keeping frame should be. A very common question that you find is someone asking if they properly kept frame during a conversation.

Keeping Frame is based off of you, not the opposing party.

I'm going to speak more so on LTRs here because it could be especially hard for a man in one to hold frame because he could be too afraid to cause (what he would perceive to be) unnecessary tension in the marriage/relationship.

You try to start to hit the gym again so instead of coming home from work around 3:00 P.M. now you're coming home around 4:30 P.M. and 5:00 P.M.

Your LTR doesn't like the change because it means less time in the day with you so she tells you that she doesn't like it. You tell her that you're going to go regardless of what she says and she blows up at you. Later that night you try to touch her and she rolls over or swats your hand away. Now not only will she not even talk to you, but she won't let you have sex either.

Now you start to think that going to the gym isn't worth the tension in the home and the sexless nights. The consequences of you maintaining your frame now seems to be too great a burden to bear.

No consequence is ever so great that you should consider breaking frame.

It never was and never will be about people being "agreeable", it's about them being respectful. Whether they will come around or not to your cause is irrelevant. Though you will find that people more often than not will do just that.

To expand on the aforementioned scenario, you maintaining frame would be you going to the gym and withdrawing affection and attention from your LTR. Why should you go out of your way to be affectionate if she won't let you touch her at night all because you chose to better yourself? Remember, while women may be the gatekeepers of sex, men are the gatekeepers of commitment.

Women know that that you as a man could leave her on a whim, and that worries her. It elicits dread but it's the good kind of dread that confirms that she sees you as a high value male worth keeping around.

Learning to maintain Frame is a huge part of being someone that she would ultimately respect. That is because the onus would then be on her to either get on board or get out of the way.

Keep in mind that when it comes to maintaining frame there is no middle ground. It's not you going to the gym for a week until you cracked under the pressure of your LTR's shit test. It's you going to the gym and going after those gains until you have achieved your fitness goals.