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Monogamy is emotionally more involved. If I find a girl who I like more than ducking random girls and we're compatible emotionally, sexually and lifestyle wise then I'll date her. Usually those girls feel the same way and entice me to date them, which obviously helps. It's less that they cook, clean or whatever. It's that they show they care. For example, FWBs I have at the moment is my favourite and gets first priority on my time because of that. She is great, she buys me little gifts, helps me…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/18 12:36 AM
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I agree overall. That shoe thing is a hot tip btw, been doing that for years it helps a lot. A couple points I'll discuss: 'plowing' is good for newbies, because they'll be making excuses to leave. When you get enough experience actually fucking girls you realise if she isn't interested within 10min you'd be better off elsewhere. Especially if she rejected you/soft no'd (boyfriend etc) in the first 30sec. Seeding a pull makes it go smoother but has negligible impact on actually pulling. You can …
/r/TheRedPill14/12/17 02:04 AM
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Quick aside, while I agree with the theme of the article there are some problems with this study: The biggest is that it draws the conclusion "strength is the primary factor for determining male attractiveness" without investigating that at all. Rather, they've shown ripped guys are more attractive than unfit guys. That's obvious. To demonstrate what they've claimed to study however they'd need to measure several independent variables in tandem. Another study did this using computer generated mo…
/r/TheRedPill14/12/17 01:19 AM
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I thought that attitude was a joke- no one in my social circle thinks like that- but then I read a mens magazine at the dentist today and remembered dudes actually think like that.
/r/TheRedPill13/12/17 05:56 PM
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Yes, but only if you tell me what for. I'm curious now.
/r/TheRedPill13/12/17 05:54 PM
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Why human beings appreciate health, wealth and status is ingrained in our DNA. In short, reproductive fitness. It's very common knowledge here so I didn't bother elaborating, whilst elsewhere it's 'known' but wilfully refuted. Imagine the old "No girls don't care if you're ripped/good looking/rich they just like you for you!" While the same girl describes her ideal man as...
/r/TheRedPill12/12/17 04:54 AM
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Humour is fine but the issue is when you're trying to be funny to pass her test you're really just jumping through her hoops. Thus making a joke out of it to amuse yourself and tease/frustrate her is fine, but trying to get a 'pass' reaction isn't. In a lot of cases, especially for me but for others also, shit tests are authentic expressions of the girls insecurities more so than a 'test'. They're more of a comfort test if anything. A better frame to think of it however is that you don't want to…
/r/TheRedPill12/12/17 04:41 AM
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Glad you enjoyed. Consistency matters more than anything else with achievement for sure.
/r/TheRedPill12/12/17 04:35 AM
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Good looking loser has a lot of good info on it with links to studies and anecdotal advice that will make it much easier to do. Basically; you buy a device to stretch your penis and another to provide vascular stress. A stretcher and a pump. It works because your penis isn't magical, it's connective tissue (which will stretch) and vascular tissue (which will undergo hypertrophy and angiogenesis in response to horizontal vascular strain). The myth that it doesn't work is probably perpetuated by t…
/r/TheRedPill11/12/17 04:13 AM
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My last post was in a similar vein and it went well. I think you're right though, people seem to want quicker and more actionable articles, not to be reminded of the long road ahead. Or maybe it's just this week, nowhere near as many posts have gone over the low hundreds. I know it's helped some people to read this anyway. I like feedback but more important is that others benefit from it. The comments and messages are so far resoundingly positive so hopefully that means it will.
/r/TheRedPill11/12/17 03:25 AM
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It's a truth. The lens through which others view you is coloured by their beliefs, their perceptions and their biases. To illustrate, I had an English unit in first semester that was creative writing. For the coursework I got very good feedback from the class, being voted as one of two people to do a reading at the end of semester. I got a 56% with the feedback "Not all women are like this!" The same teacher marked my exam, which was an anonymous short story I got 94% on. Basically this English …
/r/TheRedPill11/12/17 03:19 AM
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I just know what doesn't work for sure. If you're saying "Learning why you want girls to get through the apathy and continue a vigorous sex life won't work" then you're patently wrong. I've done that myself and have both quality and quantity to show for it. IE sex with lots of hot girls, not approaches where a girl smiled or some shit. If you're defining social value as "intimacy, physical trust and bonding" then you're being both imprecise and inaccurate. Imprecise in that you've made the term …
/r/TheRedPill30/11/17 01:13 PM
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To clarify, your results are going from too scared to approach, to lots of approaches, to never approaching? They're not results man. That's like me giving lifting advice because I went to the gym religiously for a year, got lazy and stopped going. I think you're missing out on what makes sex better than masturbating. Even the validation, which is a component of it, isn't primarily based upon your social value. Not to mention the need for intimacy, physical trust, bonding etc. Not to mention the…
/r/TheRedPill30/11/17 10:41 AM
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Your theories seem good but I'm not sure how much experience you have with them in the real world. approach only to prove status Much better ways to prove status. masturbation can feel better than sex Would have to be some pretty awful sex. Put those two together, alternative motivation of approaching to enjoy sex. talk with male friends more interesting Different way. Not as emotionally engaging, not as spontaneous. Man talk is more logical and structured. Intellectually interesting moreso mayb…
/r/TheRedPill30/11/17 07:31 AM
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I've written about approach apathy a few times, for free. I've never seen other coverage of it, who has paid content about it? I agree with you that anxiety>apathy, but I'd posit apathy is easier to work with. By the time you've reached that stage you know you can get girls so what you must do instead is remember why you want them. Where a begin might get psyched up to go out, the apathetic aficionado will spend time reminding himself why he loves women. Personally I just try to keep my room sme…
/r/TheRedPill29/11/17 10:12 PM
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I think I agree with your premise overall but it's hard to know because it's somewhat vague. This is one of the few posts I would say needs more to it, because it's promising but I'm not clear what you're saying. On the topic of trust, don't lie. If you tell people only truth or refuse to talk on a topic it usually pans out better. Even if you disappoint/anger them, they know to trust your word in future. They will respect the courage it took to tell a hard truth. If you do refuse to talk about …
/r/TheRedPill29/11/17 05:03 AM
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Approach anxiety is conquered through progressive desensitisation- IE you do it until you're comfortable doing it. Before you're willing to go through that grinder though, you have to find a way to reframe your 'fear' and make it manageable. This post resonates because approach anxiety is an irrational fear in todays society. The one reframe I've taken to heart more than any other though is "What I'm feeling isn't nervousness, it's sexual tension and she's feeling it too." This is because it fla…
/r/TheRedPill29/11/17 01:19 AM
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He doesn't have one because it's not true. I would cite but I'm on mobile. Basically there is a temporary (too short to matter) spike and dip, so it depends how long you wait o measure. Above baseline a small amount ~1hr later IIRC. Also, the smell of pussy juice doubles testosterone for a short period. Probably too short to matter unless you fuck your gf at the gym though.
/r/TheRedPill28/11/17 03:34 AM
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NoFap Sums up my thoughts on it. I feel an inescapable urge to bust a nut every 24-48hrs, if I don't have a girl over then I jack it. When you're busy sometimes you masturbate, it's just easier. I'm doing 2-a-days at the gym, 6-10hr work days and have other commitments. Can't always fit a female into my day. Porn is bad though. Too addictive, no benefits. Kind of like c MGTOW I think you're too binary with this one. If a man has a 100+ count but he's broke he should probably go his own way. Sex …
/r/TheRedPill28/11/17 03:32 AM
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Nah. I get laid a lot at/from uni. I have the secret: look good, dress well and be nice to people. You end up getting invited to stuff. Even when I don't (or when I don't feel like it) a little flirting goes a long way. Just crack jokes in your classes. Ez. I've never gotten into Tinder but all of my friends that have get lower quality by far. My friends that pull in real life get real hotties, mostly sane. The Tinder guys seem to get sevens or crazies. Sometimes both, like the girl who hid in m…
/r/TheRedPill21/11/17 02:36 PM
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I wrote an article on androgen profile recently. Give me a few weeks and I'll post it. Something else I want to post first, got to tie loose ends off elsewhere in life before I get to that though. Chaosandpain has some good posts on testosterone though.
/r/TheRedPill14/11/17 06:22 AM
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Newbie please. You have no idea how this works. Let me fill you in: If you're hot and have decent game, chicks will be aroused by you and want to fuck you. The type of sex you have will be geared to your pleasure because women want to earn your validation and you, assuredly, don't just give that out. So instead they behave like princesses when they're out and like whores when you're in. If you're rich and have decent game, chicks will be attracted to you and want to have sex with you. Of course,…
/r/TheRedPill02/11/17 01:37 AM
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If I ask a woman for a date I have a ~80% success rate. My actual rate of getting girls on dates is a bit below 20%. If we apply that same ratio to these study results, a man who asked out 10 women could expect 1 date. I get laid from ~95% of the dates I go on, had 3 or 4 dead end from the last 94 girls. The average in the community is apparently 30%. So, an average dude with those (assumedly above average) date:lay stats would expect 1 lay every 30 requests. I posted my stats to prove that you …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 04:57 AM
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It isn't politically correct and is a can of worms. Anyone with the influence to get it funded would see it as too risky, anyone with the desire to do it lacks influence. I also have a strong suspicion it would disprove a lot of PC propaganda, which provides the bedrock for the modern 'science' of psychology. For example, a very simple study would be to compare sexual assault rates between cultural groups to those within cultural groups. That won't ever be done because it's pretty clear from con…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 04:43 AM
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Sexual strategy is amorality. You apply your own morales to it. Most guys know rape is wrong and won't do it. Some guys don't. TRP has nothing to do with either. I'd be interested in seeing some type of study linking belief set and likelihood of committing sexual assault but that will never get approved, so a pipe dream it will stay.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 01:31 PM
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Good looking loser. Old posts on game are mint.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 02:21 AM
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"Game" as in what PUAs do is shitty, yes. Trying to pretend to be a valuable person with sex appeal is not as effective as being said person. TRP is good because it largely espouses the second; ie looks maxing, focusing on career and hobbies, etc. I've ripped into PUAs before about their shitty stats but they can't admit the failure of their system without admitting a shitty product. My hit rate is ~10-15%, which is similar to GLL and the like who focus on being hot before being an approach mach…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 10:06 PM
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I'm not disagreeing that incremental improvement is beneficial, I'm stating that you can't apply meaningful statistical metrics to qualitative data. How does one become 1% better at approaching? 1% more girls? Well... You're trying to apply a method of optimisation to a sub-optimal system. It works in an environment with measurable inputs and outcomes (cycling) but not in an environment with variable both. I've actually measured this and came to the conclusion that certain things could be correl…
/r/seduction23/10/17 07:04 AM
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I see your point but I don't think anyone is striving for consistent 1% improvement because it's sinosoidal. Yeah get better over time, but not necessarily day-to-day. Specifically with women, it's mostly about working your tangibles and expressing yourself better. The first you don't think of or measure in relation to women. The second you can't really evaluate quantitatively, so a 1% improvement is meaningless. Social skills can't be evaluated the way you would diet or exercise, where you have…
/r/seduction23/10/17 05:59 AM
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But I actually completely disagree with you about being stuck in a bad relationship. Ok. I didn't leave my girlfriend because I got my revenge in other ways that I'm not going to mention. That sounds like a bad relationship. I barely left my house. Tell me that's fucking beta. I did practically nothing for her but exist and give her a little love now and then. That sounds like a bad lifestyle. Running away from people who slight you because you can't handle it is cowardly. I wouldn't say cowardl…
/r/TheRedPill21/10/17 10:35 AM
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EDIT: I've just reread the post and the comments he's made below. I'm pretty sure this is a troll, maybe something fake posted by a TBP user so they can have something to parade over on their sub. Makes sense, the latest wave of TRP posts aren't easy for them to criticize. If you really do think and act like this OP, get help. I'm not saying that as an insult. You probably are very intelligent. It's not easy to get anywhere in this world with the belief-set you're clutching however, so either ge…
/r/TheRedPill21/10/17 06:33 AM
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I think this is more something that helped you than it is applicable to other people. I'm not sure if there is a message in there to pull-out and take to the real world. If it's: What if YOU could walk up to the man (Fear), strangle him, and take the woman without hesitation? Then cool, but killing your fear shouldn't be the goal of life. You learn to temper it, control it and harness it as a force of motivation. Throughout this whole dream my frame was fucking strong, I knew exactly what I want…
/r/TheRedPill21/10/17 06:18 AM
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Aggression Causality vs correlation. Women aren't turned on by aggression per se, they're turned on by dominance. It's not the confrontational aspect that turns them on, it's the control. Being aggressive is a very fast way to prove your dominance, but in the long-run it just leads to dominance struggles. More work than it's worth. Instead of trying to trigger face-to-face competition, you can step back and smirk like there is no competition. Potential aggression beats actual aggression. I remem…
/r/TheRedPill21/10/17 06:06 AM
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Good post, thanks for the mentions. Glad I inspired you to write an essay, that's a first. Possibly related, you seem to have the same issue I have where you use too many words to convey your point. Try to stick to a bare minimum of examples, in your "alpha traits" section you could have had one succinct paragraph. If you saw my umpteenth draft of the personality piece you'd know this isn't criticism, I cut it down from 13 pages to seven. One thing I did (tip from my mate, who writes summaries a…
/r/TheRedPill21/10/17 05:32 AM
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Your frame in essence should be your goals. You stick to your guns not by being a douche motivated by ego but by letting no one impact your journey to reaching your goals in any way, shape, or form. Fuck I wish I wrote that. Thanks for this post. This opened up what I was starting to discover. I was starting to question the douchebaggery as I just went through that phase and I didn't feel satisfied because it wasn't me. You're welcome man, glad to help. We all go through the douchebag phase, at …
/r/TheRedPill21/10/17 05:07 AM
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You ever starved before? Like, two months sleeping outside feeding on stolen candy bars and tuna starved? No? Try it out, then go ahead and tell me you wouldn't sell your soul for a meal and a roof.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 09:49 AM
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I find it hilarious that you're saying "objectification is something that men do" which just a way of stating (your own belief) "only men have the power to be subjects." I don't agree with you at all because A) I've been paid for sex by women I probably would have fucked for free had they not seen me as a dick for hire and actually tried to engage with me. B) I have female friends, they objectify dudes constantly. About equally in terms of looks to my male friends, but my male friends will stop …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 09:46 AM
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This. As you improve so should your standards. Looks aren't that important- you'll get to a stage where every girl you sleep with is hot enough to stoke your ego and give you more wood than a lumber mill. You have to keep building up past that point and start rejecting girls for their personalities, or in this case, unrealistic standards. A good way to look at it: if she helps you improve yourself, she's a gem. If she is indifferent, she's a plate. If she gets in the way- stupid ultimatums, dema…
/r/TheRedPill18/10/17 04:31 AM
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I have not become the act I put on. But I don't know how long it will take. We're all actors to varying extents. It's a continual process of questioning yourself and improvement. I can tell you're already starting to question your reactions and thinking given the shift between this and the last comment. Good work, keep doing it.
/r/TheRedPill17/10/17 11:10 AM
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Imagine every girl has a bucket and when the bucket is full, she will fuck you. If you're good looking, it might pour a cup into one girls, while being just a drop in another. The social status might be a splash in the first girls, but it's fills the second nearly to the rim. Being interesting, entertaining, dominant... so on. The idea is to have as many traits which are positive as possible to garner universal appeal, while yourself going for them women you truly want. As you develop you become…
/r/TheRedPill17/10/17 01:00 AM
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We were both pretty jaded people for our own reasons. We didn't trust as a default. It's an oversimplification, but we taught each other to trust and learned to feel things for other people. Although maybe "inspired" is a better word than taught. She also showed me what family was, I hadn't had one in half a decade. She showed me stability and unconditional love weren't drug states. She made me believe I could do the things I want to in life without fucking people to make over to do them. Helped…
/r/TheRedPill17/10/17 12:56 AM
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This entire post is about building balance outside of those traits. I think TRP does a good job of explaining the importance of them and teaching their development, but a poor job of clarifying they're only ideal sometimes. As an analogy, the Dark Triad are like an RPG: very powerful, very good for a specific circumstance. However if you're fire-fighting in a city block the unwieldy nature of the tool outweighs the positives. Dark Triad are for when the other options are get seriously hurt or wa…
/r/TheRedPill17/10/17 12:50 AM
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Just talk to the males. This seems to contradict this: If you feel comfortable talking to everyone there, it means that you're definitely not low-status. Your chances skyrocket, all you have to do is keep meeting girls and eventually one will let you take her home. Is it easier to talk to guys? I've always found it harder, because with women you have the innate physiological desire to talk to one another. With guys you have to have things in common. Also, if you have to keep meeting girls, how d…
/r/TheRedPill16/10/17 01:56 PM
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What guy can say he can bang 50% of women without having a personality? Not 50% of women; I could go out a few times a week and have sex with a new girl every second week. you had decent social skills and whatnot By this stage I was good at the non-mainstream game at the time, which was later popularized as push-pull, vibing and drama. Largely by RSD. The early sources I had were 60 Years of Challenge and Assanova, as well as a guy online who I used to email. Still do occasionally. it doesn't ma…
/r/TheRedPill16/10/17 01:14 PM
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TRP is very manipulative, teaching strategies and telling us what to do to get xy. I see what you're saying, but I'd say TRP isn't manipulative. It's very focused on certain things, on a specific world-view and it does a great job of honing that. Pick the tools that are gonna help you in order to become the man you want to be and succeed in life. This. The thing about another world view is that it will never be entirely true for you. You have to put in the effort, mostly outside of the internet,…
/r/TheRedPill16/10/17 01:11 PM
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It is difficult to balance being a goal-orientated person with having friendships which are purely for the enjoyment of each other. It takes time, experience and mistakes. This post is just a hint, really you have to get out there and start trying, all the while keeping conscious awareness of the why to your feelings and actions.
/r/TheRedPill16/10/17 01:06 PM
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so many missed opportunities and memories. 100%. Nearly all of my regrets fit into this category and the vast majority of those were because I was too afraid to be who I really wanted to be. If I'd had the courage to open up more I wouldn't have lost so many chances. At the same time, regret is a shaping force. Because of the things I regret I have the voice in my head saying "You've made this mistake before because you were too weak. Are you really the child you were back then?" Every time I he…
/r/TheRedPill16/10/17 01:04 PM
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Scandinavian girls are weird on that they seem innocent to most guys, but mostly they're very sexually liberated. They seem chaste because they don't walk around parading themselves, hell, in my experience they don't even give many positive signs. You just have to make your moves and and assume she's there because she wants you to. Your story pretty much mimics a relationship I had with a girl last year, except her 'boyfriend' was super rich but not famous. He used to pick her up from "her frien…
/r/TheRedPill16/10/17 04:00 AM
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We were right for each other for a few years, but we were both really young. I had a lot of things I wanted to do that I needed to be single for. She was growing dependent on me instead of into her own person. I broke up with her so both of us could become better people. We helped each other grow for a long while but sometimes you need to grow apart to grow as a person, because growing together would mean more codependency and less personal strength.
/r/TheRedPill16/10/17 03:49 AM
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I've got a pretty extensive post history here where I talk at length about becoming good looking and how to fuck lots of women. I mention in this post that A) I'm good looking and B) I've fucked a lot of women, but the focus isn't on those topics because myself and others have covered them ad infinitum. Even if you're an ugly virgin it's better to have emotional awareness than apathy, psychopathy or any of the other alternatives. Emotions teach you how to grow, they show you things no internet g…
/r/TheRedPill16/10/17 03:41 AM
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No, she wasn't a part of me. She helped me find parts of me I'd buried deep. That's why I'll always respect her. Without her I'd probably still be a sociopath trying to talk tough to impress everyone, rather than a happy and balanced person making faggy posts like this.
/r/TheRedPill16/10/17 03:38 AM
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Good point- I've heard it called the two year slump and that matches my experiences. After a while this just... fizzle. Maybe maturity, along with lowered libido, from aging is the key. LTRs at 50.
/r/TheRedPill16/10/17 03:29 AM
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I feel like TRP as a whole tends to go through the five phases of swallowing the pill: the phase that the board is as a whole corresponds to the phase of the newbies, or the phase of the majority at any point in time. I think we've recently been in the collective depression phase of swallowing the pill, and it seems to me like there's a lot of acceptance-level posts coming through lately. This is a really interesting idea and you're right, there have been more unique and developed posts of late.…
/r/TheRedPill15/10/17 10:13 PM
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how the hell did you get to thousands to approaches by 18? I got into game at ~15. I had very little other social interaction or experience, so I basically learned social skills from the ground up at that point. Did you juse see other PUA's and thought to yourself: "Yep i can do this too."? I read the book the Game, which let me know it was possible, then found the online communities at the time. When I was ~16 I found sosuave (where Rollo is from) and a guy who was a little older started giving…
/r/TheRedPill15/10/17 10:08 PM
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This is a very interesting read on the isolation of psychopathy. There are benefits to being able to be cold-blooded if the situation demands. However, you lose a lot of the pleasures of life if you can't leave that state. It's very hard to be close to people you can't trust who rarely feel as though they trust you.
/r/TheRedPill15/10/17 10:03 PM
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There's a reason LTR's are TRP on 'Hard Mode' I wonder if they're harder because of some quality inherent to them (IE the same girl judging you over a longer time course) or simply because the entirety of PUA up until recently has focused on getting laid and not love?
/r/TheRedPill15/10/17 09:59 PM
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Thank you, that's some potent flattery there. Happy to help.
/r/TheRedPill15/10/17 09:57 PM
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Thank you. I hope it helps.
/r/TheRedPill15/10/17 04:53 PM
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EDIT: Please don't down-vote the above comment. He didn't read it and gave feedback, no big deal. There is a good discussion which comes from it about psychopathy though. Worth keeping alive. fewer meaningful words instead of a wall of text, and a TL;DR summary would be good too. I agree, it is a very long piece. It is probably best to read it over a few sittings because it's a lot to digest. I may edit the introduction to reflect that. Only read few lines of your post I think this leads you to …
/r/TheRedPill15/10/17 04:52 PM
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I've noticed that naturals tend to do this(mostly) when confronted with shit tests by both men and women(men also shit test you to determine hierarchy). I think this comes about from interpreting them as a sign of the others insecurity. High-status men only test when it's very, very necessary. Very attractive women have the built in buffer of their looks, or rather the fear their looks inspire in weak men. Shit-tests are really the same validation seeking as a girl saying "Oh my god I'm so ugly!…
/r/TheRedPill15/10/17 03:05 PM
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Krauser is good. GLL is good if you're good looking/willing to work hard on your looks. RSDTodd was good but RIP. Roosh is trash tier. His old post on his "best year" was 12 girls. 12 girls is one month of solid daygame if that's your full-time profession; which it is for him.
/r/TheRedPill15/10/17 02:57 PM
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Yeah this has been my experience. I'm good looking, but never gotten shit from Tinder because I just find it so damn boring. The closest I've gotten to a Tinder lay is the girl who approached me with "We matched on Tinder!" In terms of quality: social circle=daygame>bars/streets at night-time>clubs>>>>>>>>>>>dating apps.
/r/TheRedPill15/10/17 02:55 PM
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Nah. I'm somewhere around 8-9 on the looks scale (IRL=8/9, the looks rating AI gives me 85/10 and hotornot score is low 9's) and have never gotten laid from Tinder. I had a 'good' profile and a lot of interest, but if you're don't have the time to message back and forth with a million girls ad nauseum- or if that bores you- then it won't work.
/r/TheRedPill15/10/17 02:52 PM
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I've never done Tinder, but that makes sense. Too many horror stories of internet meetings gone wrong.
/r/TheRedPill15/10/17 02:47 PM
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I will say though, I like women. I like them a lot. Girls are great. I don't subscribe to the whole thing of never have an LTR etc. Some of the best times in my life have been spent in love with someone who loved me too. Yeah this comes through in your writing. I agree. From my own experience, life is a lot better if you allow yourself to feel for people without fearing the outcome. It's the same concept of when you're racing, don't look at the walls you don't want to crash into. Keep your eyes …
/r/TheRedPill15/10/17 01:26 PM
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This is one of the best posts I've ever seen on here. Damn. Very potent point that took me much longer to discover than it should have: Ask out YOUR 10s. Much like you, I would be pulling other guys ideal girls constantly, but rarely my own 'type' because I thought it would be harder. NO. You have more chemistry with your type, which is why they're your type. It is is easier to fuck girls that are beautiful to you personally than ones who are generally attractive. Only thing I'll add: Have wine …
/r/TheRedPill15/10/17 01:23 PM
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You're less flexible and it slows you down. Neither true. Look at Kai Greene for flexibility and any athlete in a sport where weight is an advantage for speed. Or even just speed- I challenge you to outrun the 210lb Usain Bolt. Not training flexibility or speed is what makes you stiff or slow. muscle strength is built from that 3-5 rep range, not the 10-12 rep range Semi-true. The most efficient way to get stronger is varying your rep ranges, because each is stimulates the best adaption to a cer…
/r/TheRedPill13/10/17 11:07 PM
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I can't really take what you're saying here seriously, the amount of smugness in your writing is actually funny. Don't improve then? Or are you being ironic? Because I have years of experience doing game, thousands of approaches tons of results, but you can think what you want. Is a very smug (and vague) way of boasting. Thousands of approaches doesn't really impress me guy, I was in the thousands by 16. I just checked your plagiarism and 66% of it is exactly copied from other dating sites. Your…
/r/TheRedPill13/10/17 11:06 PM
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Rep schemes don't make sense, aren't optimal. Frequency far too low for a split program. Food choice sub-optimal for endocrine profile. Protein intake likely excessive while saturated fat, cholesterol and mineral intakes are too low. Have you actually read any studies on what you're advising? Full fat vs reduced fat dairy is a good term to start with. If you're worried about phytoestrogens then avoid dairy altogether though. I personally sit in the "we probably break it down in our GI" camp, but…
/r/TheRedPill13/10/17 01:41 PM
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Ok first off edit your post before hitting "save" learn to use some emotional spikes (link to article) Secondly, you seem to have the right intentions but it's very clearly regurgitated. You don't seem to have experience with this. I'll show you why with three different examples of three different issues. 1) Wrong advice: nothing about this is true, nor ever will be. Injecting strong emotions is important No, it isn't. Inspiring strong emotions is important, but only in certain contexts. 'Inject…
/r/TheRedPill13/10/17 12:14 PM
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First of all, don't think I've ever bought a drink for a girl and have never had that blow a chance. What will blow a chance is looking like a stingy prick, which is frame. If I don't want to pay for the Uber to mine I'll say "Yo, I'll get this round, you get the Uber." I've refused to buy girls drinks because no, there is no way I'm buying most strangers a drink. If they get me a round, maybe. If they are really cool, maybe. Going into the interaction with the belief it's transaction ($20 bux f…
/r/TheRedPill13/10/17 11:54 AM
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Really good post. Concise and effective advice. The 2 mile rule is OG. I live very central and have picked up outside my apartment on the way to going out before. When you have good logistics it's very easy to bring girls back. It's also good exercise walking to work, the shops and gym instead of driving everywhere. Not to mention the time I save.
/r/TheRedPill12/10/17 05:13 AM
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Wasn't that just the start? I was under the impression from the ending she saw the hypocrisy in that judgement, when she did the whole speech about men having issues she'd never imagined and how society as a whole had to work towards equality for both genders.
/r/TheRedPill11/10/17 10:51 PM
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Wasn't that just the start? I was under the impression from the ending she saw the hypocrisy in that judgement, when she did the whole speech about men having issues she'd never imagined and how society as a whole had to work towards equality for both genders.
/r/TheRedPill11/10/17 10:51 PM
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Drop that thinking. The only regrets I have from high school are the things I didn't do. I have vivid memories of all the girls who craved my dick more than a heroin addict craves a hit, yet I have to think to even come up with an embarrassing moment. I had a lot of them as well, given that I overhauled my personality during high school. I don't even regret the embarrassments though. They made me a better person. I remember asking this girl to ball and her being super excited, this was the culmi…
/r/TheRedPill11/10/17 03:28 PM
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I thought it was well done and even handed. She covered a lot of taboo topics and the editing was excellent, they'd have a feminist say "well everyone knows this issue only effects girls" spliced between an MRA quoting statistics and an infographic contradicting her claim. I watched with my gf at the time and while it obviously caused her severe cognitive dissonance she continued to call herself a feminist. Her idea of a feminist was actually egalitarian though, she was never majorly biased on t…
/r/TheRedPill11/10/17 03:23 PM
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Approach me: gym girls and sluts. The second isn't derogatory, just to say they tend to be party girls with a lot of dick time. Also cougars and, disturbingly, high school girls. I approach: any girl who meets my look standard and is either A) compatible looking (IE looks like we'd share interests, looks like we'd have similar values) or B) looks unique (on Sunday I picked up these two chicks who were beautiful but dressed in weird chic grunge outfits. Halfway in between punk rock and catwalk, c…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 06:11 AM
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Stop whining. You can improve and get laid at least. It won't ever be easy, but the more you beat yourself down and stress over it the harder it will be. Start working, start improving yourself. Get big, get lean, get a big dick, read good books, start dancing classes or something... get out there.
/r/TheRedPill09/10/17 01:33 AM
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I feel the same way about newgens applying the absolute bare minimum TRP I'm not at all a newbie. I've been into game for nearly a decade, since I was 14. IE before your community. I saw the exact same shit get spread on the ASD boards, as well as a few others, right before they devolved into degenerate circle jerks. having sex once, thinking they've found a unicorn, then coming here to tell everyone the tried-and-true methods are wrong. I have a 140+ count. I've had multiple happy relationships…
/r/TheRedPill09/10/17 12:57 AM
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Dude, what the fuck are you on about? Did you even read the fucking sidebar? Yeah, although none of this is about sidebar content. I was pretty clear it was about recent toxic posts which grab a (frankly deluded) idea and morph it into something dangerous. Yes it can happen but don't expect it? Do you understand vigilance? Do you comprehend awareness? Do you understand that when you drive, you don't stare at the walls? Do you understand that if you go shooting, you point the barrel the other way…
/r/TheRedPill09/10/17 12:52 AM
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Post 3sum. I've mentioned before that my camera sucks, only have a front camera and everything looks kind of blurry. Her shitty lamp didn't help either. I had another pic but you could only see one girl and the others hand. Too hard to take pictures with just the front camera and no space.
/r/TheRedPill08/10/17 06:30 PM
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Yeah. Guys and girls both suck in roughly even proportions. I've had both fuck me around in roughly equal proportions. I think the issue is guys take it much more seriously from women, while at the same time they let their fear steer them right into disaster.
/r/TheRedPill08/10/17 06:29 PM
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AWALT mentality does not encourage you to hate women. The first step to making you hate something is making it homogenous. It's how the Nazi's bred spite for the Jews, it's why so many kids today hate maths and science. reminder to yourself, that you need to be alpha, and you need to improve yourself consistently I think a better reminder is paying attention to the quality of people in your life. It's hard to do that if AWALT. Maybe AWALT can be about self-improvement, but I think anything which…
/r/TheRedPill08/10/17 06:28 PM
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HAHAHA no shit. I was considering just not posting this and writing another feel-good piece, but then I thought it's worth it even if I only convert one dude since all I'm risking is imaginary internet points.
/r/TheRedPill08/10/17 06:16 PM
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Thanks man, I try. You're right though: just don't have the time. It took me four days to write the post I just made because I was busy doing other shit. But then, it's controversial, 50:50 chance the keyboard brigade will be at the ready with downvotes... frustrating. The people who I see posts from and I think "Wow, this guy gets it" often get <50 upvotes, whilst some beta-haters rant on gyno-culture gets 2000 because it's easy to relate to. Although I don't know TRP for that specifically. It …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 06:13 PM
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That's right. Not really. It's actually a misheard Wu Tang lyric.
/r/TheRedPill08/10/17 06:07 PM
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I see this attitude in the community a lot. The issue comes from thinking that you have to 'game' girls to get them into you. Nope. If you're a worthwhile guy you don't do anything to 'make' girls like you. They just do and you, as the man, make the moves. I can tell you you're enough but honestly my word isn't worth anything. You have to start believing the girls in your social circle are horny and would probably prefer to fuck someone they know than not. Especially an attractive guy.
/r/TheRedPill08/10/17 05:54 PM
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I know of JMULV. Fucker is an absolute creep. He is the exception to the rule that you have to care about women to fuck a lot of them. He is the proof taking said path is disgusting. I honestly think he ruined himself taking it. I felt myself going down that way when I treated sex- or more accurately, the egocentric thrill of fucking a new girl- as a drug. I dehumanized myself by treating women as objects. It isn't a natural human state, there is a reason psychopathy is treated as a psychologica…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 02:15 PM
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Oh yeah, I saw that guy a few years back when he started out and he was promoting via GLL like advertisements. I think one of the GLL endorsed guys was helping market him. I'll look at his stuff again, thanka for the rec. Anyone else trustworthy?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 05:55 AM
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I've met Brad, Jeffy, Alex and Sam. Also one guy who was an intern with them whose name slips my mind, he wasn't very good at all. They did a free tour and I met them out afterwards. Just realised I would have been 18 because It was before my first girlfriend and we were 20 when we broke up. Though I met the rest (everyone except Brad) when I was 20/21 while they were traveling to cities I happened to be in. I use the Facebook groups sometimes to figure out where to go out in cities I don't know…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 05:48 AM
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Yeah Krauser is legit. GLL is the best alt-pickup guru IMO. I don't want to find the studies on my phone, but PE is legit if you want to do it. If you're happy with your dick it doesn't matter, but being an 8/9 with a 5/10 cock made me sad. Having a top 10% dick girls brag about and want to take pictures with-same with my body- makes me happy. Tom Torrero is also seems good but his writing isn't the same calibre as Nick. Also never met him and don't know anyone who has.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 05:22 AM
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Way more than 1:1 rejections:lays. It is a number game in the sense you will have to play the numbers. That's how you get laid and improve with women, as in any other skill you will fail a lot before you succeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 04:06 AM
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The RSD guys have their place. You're right that it's primarily their business practices that I detest. They told me the contract wouldn't be enforced it's just safety etc but I don't want to sign a legal document just because their words say otherwise. Nick Krauser is technically the best at game I can think of. Most of his 'value' to women stems from tight game. Average looking short dude that one of my friends, the one I'd say is the best with women, winged for him once. He says that game-wis…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 04:04 AM
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Opposite. Browsing this after sex. I post there because the community is so much better than what there has been historically. What you're seeing is still a community in its infancy. It's taking time for things to be discovered. Women have been sharing notes on sex for centuries, whereas it has only become vaguely acceptable for men to do so in recent years. You should go back and browse PUA boards from the '10s. That's when I started reading that stuff. I got lucky and basically just found one …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 06:30 PM
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Thousands and thousands. A lot of rejections and a lot of successes. Dated many beautiful women, slept with a few crazy ones. Only had a handful of really bad rejections, honestly can only remember one: getting told to just fuck off. Yeah. A minority are cool to hang with, most never get beyond beginner stages. The coaches are the worst though. I hate nearly all of them with a passion for being lying, scamming pieces of shit. The vast majority have lifetime n-counts below my yearly average, let …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 08:18 AM
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Standard deviation decreases the larger the sample size is. A more accurate comparison could be made if you had another study with ~300 American penises and compared it to the 300 Indian knobs from this one. Assuming of course the same methodology, if this study is a self-report and you compare against clinical measures you'll get way smaller sizes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 06:38 AM
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They do have that freedom, which I think should remain. The idea of slut shaming is to prevent said freedom via social pressure, which OP is supporting. I believe this shouldn't be a thing. At the same time, shaming a man for wanting a virgin is a clear double standard. IE everyone should have the right to set their own partner standards (exception of underage) and so long as both parties consent, they shouldn't be judged on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 10:58 AM
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What is so negative about the exact same behaviour in a man? For the record I actually don't agree with the premise of OP that the slut shaming debate is about entitlement. I think on a personal level, the attitude can be entitled, but that the issue extends beyond that to a societal freedom which should hold across many walks of life. The non-aggression principle, or if it doesn't harm others then feel free to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 10:35 AM
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Really? Again, not doubting you, it's just so different to my experiences with 18-22 year old women in Australia/Europe. I would believe 25+ year old women might, but I've slept with multiple girls that are friends and never had a problem with it. The only time I ever got bad rep was when I had to tell three girls I might have given them the clap. My most serious relationship (~2 years and we are still friends) I'd actually slept with three of the other five girls in the social circle first. She…
/r/TheRedPill28/09/17 08:54 AM
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No, they don't. The best long distance runners who run on concrete do. During training on softer surfaces a lot go barefoot. The famous Mexican running tribe do super-marathon distances in sandals. The Kenyans train barefoot regularly, as do the other African nations and sprinters from the same. Barefoot training is a regular part of athletic development for a lot of top runners but hard surfaces aren't natural to run on, so cushioning is pretty much a necessity.
/r/TheRedPill28/09/17 03:58 AM
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Masturbation doesn't increase cortisol. I'd love to see a citation for that because I've got half a dozen that show the exact opposite.
/r/TheRedPill28/09/17 02:28 AM
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So painfully true. 6'3, got up to 225 at one stage. Felt small. Ended up having to lose weight because despite being low BF%, my cardio sucked, my knees and ankles were giving out running and I started snoring. This is despite the fact that when I do a realistic evaluation, I see maybe two or three guys a month bigger than me. >100kg with <12%BF is probably 0.001% of the population.
/r/TheRedPill28/09/17 02:21 AM
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I find this hard to believe. I don't think you're lying, but I can't even imagine this reality in the West. Casual sex is so ingrained into our culture I honestly just can't imagine being "slut shamed" in any context. I've had girls who have been given 0 indication I'm sleeping with anyone else say "I don't want to keep seeing you unless you stop fucking around." It's assumed that if you're an attractive guy, you have a few girls on the go. I've had "the talk" dozens of times and never once had …
/r/TheRedPill28/09/17 02:12 AM
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[C] Biological exuberance: Animal homosexuality and natural diversity B Bagemihl - 1999 - Macmillan That is cited nearly 800 times, along with literally thousands of other articles on the topic. You can use Google scholar don't believe me. As I said multiple times, it is a very well studies and established phenom both in animals (ask literally any farmer ever, or read one of the 2467 articles that have been published this decade on it) and in humans (ask any sociologist/population scientist, or …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 09:53 AM
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There's ample evidence in sociological and biological journals. It is well known to farmers and occurs in most mammals, to differing degrees. There is social factors as well, like most things in social animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/17 04:50 AM
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illnesses such as homosexuality LOL. Homosexuality is an adaption to overpopulation most likely. It occurs in nearly all animals and occurs as higher frequencies the more crowded a population becomes. It isn't at all dysfunctional, which is required to label something an illness. Otherwise by the same token being tall is an illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 11:18 AM
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You're missing the point. It is neither good nor bad, rather it depends on the person and their goals. If you want a woman who is very serious, it would be bad because it would repel her. If you want a women who is playful, it is good because it will attract her. Your questions are focusing on the surface-level "what" when you need to dig deeper with why, while also considering how who/where/when affects it. Everything has context and if you don't start stripping that away while looking for why,…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 04:13 AM
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Different strokes for different folks. Some people, A world better, others B does. Because they think alpha and obstinate are synonyms. Because most of these people who act like douches do so because of their insecurities and inferiorities. The loud, aggressive guy searching for a fight is rarely a good fighter, for a classic example.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 07:26 AM
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The talk of arrogance (not sure who exactly said it) summed up a lot of ideas I've had. If I say "I'm good looking" or "I'm smart" it does seem to be one particular type of person who responds negatively to statements of fact like that. I don't like the idea that I'm supposed to play some game and pretend like I don't know I'm good looking. I've been alive for long enough to have realized people treat me differently. I am aware of the fact. Why am I a bad person for saying so? Why would I be a b…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 11:48 AM
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Nailed it. Guys who are good with women treat them like guys. As in, they don't suddenly start worshipping her for having a vagina. Nor do they go to the other extreme, The Celibate Island of Angry Betas- aka treating them bad because they have a vagina. It's just... you don't care. You judge people. You evaluate there merits and their weaknesses as human beings, then draw conclusions. "Has a vagina" is by itself neither of those. "Has a vagina instead of a face" might be though. This attitude m…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 11:00 AM
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Sure. I don't know how much you know about muscle physiology so I'll keep it simple. On a cellular level, part of the adaption process for skeletal muscle anabolism is increasing the density of receptor sites. Basically letting more growth factors bind. These waste at a much reduced rate to the things that mainly cause size loss- namely depleting glycogen stores and to a smaller extent fibre size decreasing. That means when you start exercising again, these tissues are more responsive as they ca…
/r/TheRedPill08/09/17 02:55 AM
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The main thing is finding girls who make your life better and vice versa. That also applies to both social life, as well as most hobbies. To me, 'game' (whether that be club game, dick game, WoW game...) is similar to 20 questions. You start general the hone your way into the perfect girl/s over time. I also think the differentiation between classes of game is hilarious. If you're attractive overall as a person it doesn't matter if you're in a nightclub or a supermarket. Looks, vibe, demeanour, …
/r/TheRedPill06/09/17 05:16 AM
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I specifically say within the first few paragraphs that if you only care about ONSs do whatever you want. This is for guys trying to build a network of worthwhile women to keep in their life. I had to go through the former to want the latter and during the ONS days I did often just go as hard as possible. This would keep girls around for a while but the ones that stuck for years were the ones I gave back to. Keeping girls needs more than just plunder, getting them doesn't really.
/r/TheRedPill06/09/17 03:04 AM
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Nah I watched someone else have sex IRL once.
/r/TheRedPill06/09/17 03:00 AM
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Read TrenGods comments above.
/r/TheRedPill06/09/17 03:00 AM
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Yeah this is why we do it. For some guys it is just about nutting and that's fine, but for guys like us it's the whole event. You feel more masculine when she willingly worships you in and out of bed due purely to the virtue of how you can make her feel. The fact you control the choice (to give her pleasure) reverses the dynamic other guys are forced to work with- IE women decide when to sex.
/r/TheRedPill06/09/17 02:59 AM
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TrenGod already summed up my thoughts perfectly. Basically, meat-fuck gets girls back a few times. The above is what let's me not talk to girls since high school and still have them hitting me up for dick out of the blue. Or more frequently, just girls putting disproportionate effort in. It's not hard to be 'outcome independent' or 'have abundance' if you know 9/10 girls you fuck will beg for your number, constantly request to see you and respond almost instantly. You don't need to put much effo…
/r/TheRedPill06/09/17 02:56 AM
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Any rookies reading this, if you want to take Viagra start with ~50mg. You don't want a priapism.
/r/TheRedPill06/09/17 02:46 AM
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First of all, porn is bad and masturbating with the death grip is even worse. I think your biggest problem is the fact you are badly out of shape. Most guys can masturbate often and still perform in the bedroom. I can guarantee you that if you got into good shape, you could stroke one out mere hours before a hookup and still perform like nothing happened. This. I'm very fit and often (for a few weeks at a time) will cum a couple of times a day. Usually 3-4 days of the week each with girls or mas…
/r/TheRedPill05/09/17 10:44 AM
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U/quasarfeline has got it right; it is disturbing you'd take this to heart. Any reaction like this really. You hit on a 14 year old girl, that shit is creepy brah. Don't worry though we've all accidentally done it and felt like a pedophile after. Hell, I've done it multiple times. That feeling isn't justifiable though, unless you actually are a pedophile obviously. Every time you do it as soon as you hear "oh I'm (less than legal) years old." Say "well nice to meet you." then leave. That's the e…
/r/TheRedPill05/09/17 12:36 AM
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1) if you're worried about your heart then stimulants are a lot worse than steroids for you. 1b) The vast majority of steroids effects are unrelated to stimulus or recovery- IE 80%+ of the results happen due to the drug itself exerting phenotypic shift and <20% is because you workout harder/recover quicker. Often you'll hear 'experts' say the way steroids work is because they speed recovery and allow harder training; usually they use this as an argument to allow them in sports. Unfortunately thi…
/r/TheRedPill04/09/17 11:32 PM
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When it comes to supplements i think that only 2 are worth $. Whey protein and Creatine. Everything else you are overpaying for minimum (if any) results. If you can get 45% of your daily calories from food you don't need whey. If not use it to hit your goal. Protein is 100% of the time an unnecessary supplement. The only anabolic window which exists is in trained athletes who are starved for >6 hours prior to exercise. Anabolic window of course being defined as increased nitrogen retention immed…
/r/TheRedPill04/09/17 09:35 AM
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OP sounds young. When I started out ~15-16 I did more than 1000 approaches before my first lay. I was young, sex-shy and inexperienced. Might be the same thing, except at 20 instead.
/r/TheRedPill04/09/17 08:34 AM
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Doesn't matter much. Lots of other things matter more. It's the same as any other neutral habit: if it negatively impacts what matters, it's not neutral anymore. If you get ED, procrastinate study to masturbate or don't go out because you want to blow out; you have a problem. Address that problem. For me personally I tend to jack off more when I'm getting laid regularly, but not on the day. I think it's because the actual IRL intercourse- with intimacy, emotion, etc- satisfies everything except …
/r/seduction25/08/17 05:48 PM
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Could you find a source/s for that second part? I've only ever read anything mentioning the first point, never anything about women reaching better conclusions after locking up, which would contradict what I have read in say Blink- ie instinct beats paralysis of analysis.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 05:43 AM
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I'm a 190cm/6'3 guy and would never date a girl taller than me. The tallest girl I've ever slept with was 184cm/6'1. She was too tall to be really attract to me unfortunately. She was very good looking (a model, been on magazines/TV) and it wasn't a "what will my friends think" bs thing, I just couldn't admire her other beauties as much because the height put me off. She had a height standard and wouldn't date anyone shorter than her. Made it hard for her to date. Most girls seem to have that th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 01:59 PM
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It comes and goes in spirals, there are times and places for both. Context matters a lot. You should definitely care what the people you respect think of you. You shouldn't try to impress the types of women you are attracted to, but you should be trying to be someone that is impressive to them.
/r/TheRedPill18/06/17 04:39 PM
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Jesus fuck dude she was trying to protect your feelings. Do you think guys like me tell girlfriend/s that we flirt with our barista? No, we enjoy the free coffees and keep our mouths shut. Flirting with people who provide services you're paying for is how you save money as an attractive person. I'm pretty sure every attractive person does this. Let me put this another way: You go out with your girl, she flirts with the bartender. You get free shots. Do you complain because she is 'cheating' on y…
/r/TheRedPill18/06/17 04:25 PM
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No. I've been beat down in life and still had abundant sexual options. I've had 0 sexual options and felt amazing. My belief is that 'happiness' is better thought of as a combination of satisfaction, fulfillment and pleasure. Fulfillment being: Are you achieving your goals? Are those goals set to a reasonable timeline? Are those goals aligned to who you truly want to be as a person. Satisfaction being: Are the actions you're taking achieving reasonable results? (ie effort/reward is balanced) And…
/r/TheRedPill18/06/17 04:12 PM
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No sorry, my lecturer was really good and the textbook was also good. I used Wikipedia besides that but I wouldn't count it as a good source...
/r/TheRedPill18/06/17 01:27 PM
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You need to stop reading this shit and start going out more man. Girls can be unavailable to everyone for months at a time if they're not in the right-space emotionally. If what you're saying was true every girl would lose her V's at first blood... we know they don't. Girls don't take every opportunity for sex and their reject:sex ratio is usually whack, probably in the 1000:1 ratio for the really hot ones. To illustrate, last time I went out with my friend "Ashley" (who is a model/singer and lo…
/r/TheRedPill16/06/17 08:36 AM
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Good catch; I did a [neurology] exam last Saturday and have obviously forgotten the basics since then lol.
/r/TheRedPill16/06/17 08:24 AM
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Jesus Christ. No. Just no. I'm someone who has studded as much as I physically could* and I can tell you with 100% certainty- as can any other guy who has done it- that not all women will cheat. Even in ridiculous circumstances. I've never heard this claim anywhere but here and I have other friends with 100+ laycounts. Fuck, I have a friend with a 400+ laycount whose fetish is married women and he has like a 1/20 success rate. The dude is going out of his way to only fuck taken women, has built …
/r/TheRedPill15/06/17 07:48 AM
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This is absolute bullshit... girls are usually 'unavailable' for one of 1000000 personal reasons, or a circumstantial one like time of month, relationship status, etc. The only people I could see believing this must have never met an IRL girl to do so. One of the first things you notice when you have female friends is how much they care about their reputation; they'll sleep with the same single did-lay for six months because they fucked him once, they still want sex and they don't want to seem l…
/r/TheRedPill15/06/17 07:39 AM
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I'll weigh in here, even if it gets buried underneath a mountain of replies. I've done nofap dozens of times. The longest I've gone is just under a year, I've done two lots of three months and I've done miscellaneous lots ranging from a few days to a few months. I've done the Stalin method (I got it from old school fastseduction for those who remember that lol) where you masturbate to the brink then stop daily. I found with that method, the ramp up in effects is far, far faster. I'd be so horny …
/r/TheRedPill20/05/17 04:21 PM
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Uhh... again, you don't break eye contact before an approach. That's like 15 seconds absolute maximum most of the time. If you're talking to a girl and you don't break eye contact for two hours, that's weird as fuck... frankly I'd be shocked if the girl continued talking to you. You want to be gazing into her eyes, not staring. Staring into her eyes is reserved for sex. If you ever read a woman's fantasies you'll hear them describe this really well. You also show the girl what is important by lo…
/r/TheRedPill03/05/17 11:36 PM
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I don't think you read the post... in reference to first look, yes never break eye contact. In the context of a longer interaction never breaking it doesn't make you look alpha; it makes you look tryhard and creepy.
/r/TheRedPill03/05/17 06:03 AM
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You do you. At lot of guys seem to really want this super-dominant relationship where you basically own the girl... fuck that. I've done it multiple times and just don't have the energy for it anymore. I'd prefer dating a girl whom I respect enough intellectually and whose maturity is such that I can actually trust her and let her take control of the things I don't want to. 100% control is great in theory but having to choose every single activity you do and basically telling her how to live her…
/r/TheRedPill01/05/17 05:15 PM
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Yeah, you can say pretty much anything during sex so long as afterwards you cuddle her and show your affection. Also, don't always have this balls-to-the-wall dominant sex because it doesn't fulfill the girl completely like a mix of dominance and tender loving sex does. you're nothing to me. This I wouldn't ever say because it just seems too risky. I'd prefer to say "You're my sex toy" and make it personal, in my experience being possessive about it both balances out the 'insult' aspect of it an…
/r/TheRedPill01/05/17 05:09 PM
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This is bullshit advice for LTRs see what 24-48 hour radio silence does and you'll get the are you cheating on me talk. Not in my experience. I don't believe it's healthy to regularly do this, but sometimes if your life is busy you'll just not remember to reply for a day or three. Just explain that to her simply: "Sorry, I was really busy these last few days." Don't get defensive of justify it but if this causes an argument that's a real problem. It shouldn't in an understanding relationship. Wh…
/r/TheRedPill01/05/17 05:05 PM
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Occasionally be unexpectedly thoughtful. Give her a cupcake with your names on it. Pick her a flower. Tiny expressions like this, devoid of any verbal affection and followed immediately by a return to the relatively aloof and stoic frame, can pierce a woman's heart with an emotional snag that sparks a deeper kind of attraction and love. This is gold is one of the best pieces of relationship advice I could give... pity you beat me to it. Be in charge of goodbyes. Initiate departures most of the t…
/r/TheRedPill01/05/17 05:02 PM
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Yeah, stayed at Grandio and one night at Retox. The hot girls seemed to be a Retox unfortunately... you?
/r/TheRedPill24/04/17 05:20 AM
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I'm not sure what you're trying to prove here... women on the pill prefer more feminine faces. That =/= alpha fucks at all; it means if you're having one night stands you should wear a rubber.
/r/TheRedPill20/04/17 08:41 AM
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The pretence of a date can make you a lot more appealing, no matter how shallow.
/r/TheRedPill20/04/17 07:51 AM
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• what kind of competition? •Find out if there is a pickup lair/frat, then find a cool guy on it that has other interests and hang with him. At least 1-2 per city IME, check the RSD Facebook pages as well. •Cold cock zombie=no emotions, just a fuck machine. Your Mileage May Vary. •Herpes or HIV are both super fucked. Hep is incredibly expensive to get rid of, but not as bad if you can afford to. Try to stay clean lol I've managed. •RSD= very bit-picky specifics about picking up chicks. Probably …
/r/TheRedPill20/04/17 07:49 AM
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Try and fail, you'll realise it isn't too bad. Try and succeed, you'll realise it's awesome. Confidence comes after consistently doing both and getting comfortable. Confidence just means the circle of your comfort zone is fluid.
/r/TheRedPill20/04/17 01:59 AM
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You gotta follow through man. If she says she might be busy chase a little, find out when she's free. Get her to be a yes or a no, because a maybe is just a no that wastes extra time.
/r/TheRedPill20/04/17 01:57 AM
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That's definitely easiest but adventure dates are also pretty easy once you get the hang. The signs she wants to fuck aren't as obvious but are still there if you can spot them. In fact, one of my favourite dates last year was the supermarket date, where we just go food shopping then go back to my house to put my meat away... literally the shittiest date but works because they wanted to fuck anyway.
/r/TheRedPill20/04/17 01:55 AM
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Would 5 girls a week be guys in the top 1% of successful TRPers? According to Slate I'm in the top 0.1% of men in terms of lifetime lay count; sitting at somewhere >120. The best week I've ever done was probably 6-8, I could find out exactly when I get home. Pulling 5 a week, week after week, would be insane. I would say nearly impossible, since my average rate when not exam/holiday/LTR time is one a week. If one a week=top 0.1% of male pop. then 5 a week would put you in the GOAT category. Hone…
/r/TheRedPill20/04/17 01:53 AM
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Shit-tests don't stop, ever. That's sad. I disagree though. I think if you come from the frame of her needing you and every test being either a joke or a sign of her insecurity (thus you gotta show some love) then they effectively disappear. I mean, for all intents and purposes you aren't getting shit tested if there is 0% chance of failure and 100% chance her attraction will grow whenever she does it.
/r/TheRedPill20/04/17 01:16 AM
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Is it just me who really wants to get instagram now? On a more serious note, yes the West is degrading, yes most girls would cuck their boy for a cornetto and yes social media is a cause & effect for both. Having said that; social media is not evil by itself and can even be used for good. I remember back in the heyday of Facebook, when I was a teen, that having a popular profile was the shit. I got my dick sucked for having 300+ like DPs and yes, that's a sign of degeneracy but would you prefer …
/r/TheRedPill19/04/17 09:16 AM
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The average parties consist of around 25-50 people. Where? People are aware of everyone else. More so than a bar yes, in general though still no. Most people are off in their own world second guessing themselves too busy to notice you. 1st. Hour (G): You want to Greet your friends (or make them) and socialise with them for a while. DO NOT try to game a girl in the first hour. They will be least receptive to it, as girls most likely wanna chill and dance in the first two hours. You can use the fi…
/r/TheRedPill19/04/17 05:02 AM
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Your LTR doesn't like the change because it means less time in the day with you so she tells you that she doesn't like it. You tell her that you're going to go regardless of what she says and she blows up at you. Later that night you try to touch her and she rolls over or swats your hand away. Now not only will she not even talk to you, but she won't let you have sex either. Does this actually happen to anybody? I'm genuinely curious, I've never had a girl refuse sex in the context of a relation…
/r/TheRedPill19/04/17 04:36 AM
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I do it. I just call it opening lol, whereas if I go up to them I call that approaching.
/r/TheRedPill18/04/17 05:54 AM
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Yeah. I find when I play enough Overwatch my desire to find and inseminate young hotties drops to 0. I believe it's because I fulfill that hunters hunger and feel like I've accomplished what my genes need.
/r/TheRedPill18/04/17 05:49 AM
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The two views you've posited aren't as contradictory as they would initially seem. Heartiste is saying "Don't give direct answers" not "hide your intentions." This is basically "Don't validate her shitty questions as serious questions; carry the conversation deeper than the surface and communicate in the non-verbal planes." This fits very well with being direct sexually, because you ignore the surface-layer shit that could derail your attempts to sexualise while you actually build the tension an…
/r/askTRP17/04/17 01:48 AM
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In all honesty: I don't know. I have no idea what you look like, where you live, etc. The only thing I can say is that in most all cities I've been in, girls are OK with public sex and I've definitely seen some pretty meh guys manage it in a few of them. Of all the types of pull I do, public pulls are the most dependent on looks. The reason for that is the time-frame- these pulls only take ~5-10 minutes usually. I don't have time to sell myself. If I was spending 60+ minutes in set, I would just…
/r/TheRedPill17/04/17 01:45 AM
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It sounds like you might just be going TMI here man. Maybe scale it back a little, give vague hints if they ask about other girls. IE "How do you know her?" "We're friends from way back." That's the same thing, but you don't explicitly tell her. IDK about EE because I've traveled there but never lived there. I didn't really find much difference picking up girls anywhere except Budapest, which is terrible for it six days of the week and ridiculously amazing one.
/r/TheRedPill16/04/17 09:14 AM
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This is bs man, don't make these excuses. I've been watching Attenboroughs documentaries on Netflix recently with girls, that's been going well. I have opened sets with cool animal facts because that's what I was thinking of at the time. Very few interests will dispel any attraction a girl has for you and a curiosity for Animalia is not one of them. Unless you fuck them obviously. What can be a turn off from eccentric dudes- and it isn't the trait itself; the biggest ladies man I've met was Russ…
/r/TheRedPill16/04/17 08:56 AM
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Hahahaha man it's a twist on the Mystery line, not at all racist... I mean, I am mixed race lol.
/r/TheRedPill15/04/17 07:40 AM
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More men are led to believe their sexuality is disgusting and "oppressive" while women are told it's empowering. So, women go searching for the most attractive mates possible, and they are more scarce since more men are lied to about what women want. This is very true. A huge percentage of men are sexual non-entities now, even just comparing to three or four years ago. Even beyond this though- and this is what I find incredibly worrying and what makes me think this isn't a good thing: more men a…
/r/TheRedPill15/04/17 03:52 AM
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I have this one FWB at the moment who goes nuts for this stuff. She has a real love/hate thing going with me being a player. She'll be talking about something and I might say "Oh my ex-girlfriend used to love-" then she'll cut me off with "OK I GET IT! Your ex was amazing! Jesus Christ!" or "One of my friends is super into-" "Is this another one of the girls you've fucked?" Girls like this are fairly common and honestly the majority of the time they're like this because it turns them on. This pa…
/r/TheRedPill15/04/17 02:51 AM
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I'm glad someone asked this, because I didn't even think of it which is a huge mistake on my part. I took for granted that other people will just know when the reality is this method shows differently than most others. The girls will nearly always be polite and friendly; don't rely on telling them apart by "nice and plays along" vs "mean and doesn't play along" because by far the larger margin of girls will play along. While about 80% of girls will play along verbally and to an extent physically…
/r/TheRedPill15/04/17 02:09 AM
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They told me I just need to lift weights. So I did. Sets you up for life bro trust me. Girls talk to each other and they know who the "cool" guys are of the school. If you're known as "uncool" it doesn't matter how hot you are, girls won't risk ruining their rep fucking you. That's it. Yeah basically. The exception is last stretch of high school. By the end of high school I was the stereotypical cool kid, or would have been at any other one at least. I was tall, jacked, partied etc but the schoo…
/r/TheRedPill14/04/17 11:25 AM
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I'm still getting messages that its down and comments on the post, so it's still down for some people. Must be, I don't think any of the mods are hurting over this lol.
/r/TheRedPill13/04/17 10:56 PM
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This must be removed for some people? I've got a few messages and comments about that now.
/r/TheRedPill13/04/17 01:09 PM
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idk, is this actually removed for some people? I've got a few messages+comments about it now...
/r/TheRedPill13/04/17 01:08 PM
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Intelligence IS A turn-on for women when they see it smoothly packaged into a practical, everyday situation. DON'T talk about things you know. Your spoken knowledge will not impress a woman. It looks rehearsed and forced. Yep. Practical application beats raw intellect. Even things that aren't super 'smart' like doing first aid work wonders. One night when I was out I saw a girl have a seizure and waited with her/kept her safe until an ambulance arrived, then helped the paramedics get her onto th…
/r/TheRedPill13/04/17 11:28 AM
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Do the things that aren't being shoved down your throat. Find the activities, don't just do what finds you. If you take control and consciously choose what you do with every moment of your day then it's hard to get influenced by consumer culture.
/r/TheRedPill13/04/17 11:12 AM
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In an insular social environment nearly always, except in extenuating circumstances like being alone for a long period together, living next door to each other or some such. In open social scenes like bars, not so much. Her friends opinion will matter here (but maybe not much) and as long as they are OK with you its mostly her finding you hot.
/r/TheRedPill13/04/17 11:10 AM
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There's a lot of mental wankery about what mixed signals really are, because they're not a sign the girl is damaged, they're not a sign of fluctuating SUVs (I kid) and they're not simply a sign of low interest either. Because they can be any combination of those and other factors. I think you've hit the nail on the head in a way these older guys can't because- and I can vouch for this- high school gives you a very raw insight into female social psychology. The problem is at that age you can't re…
/r/TheRedPill13/04/17 06:14 AM
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This is my favourite comment thread, I just keep reading it.
/r/TheRedPill13/04/17 05:39 AM
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Just click the redpill man. Glad you like it. Work on holding it for longer. I was really socially fearful as an adolescent learning this so I started by just holding eye contact for the count of one with everyone I walked past. Then count of two, three and four. At four I had no more fear of looking into eyes so I went back to three and focused on never breaking it with women I found attractive. It's easy once you get the hang of it.
/r/TheRedPill13/04/17 05:38 AM
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On one hand, I know what you're saying and have been there were one soft kiss will keep her craving and even elevate that lust. However, I've also had girls who after a tiny peck will be satisfied that they hooked up with a hot guy and be done with it. Looking back on it, quite possibly those girls were attention seekers anyway. Maybe little kisses during are worth it, personally I'll probably stick with what I know because it works for me but definitely worth considering thanks.
/r/TheRedPill13/04/17 05:32 AM
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I wrote a comment which got deleted because it had a reddit link in it. This was literally what I said sans link though so listen to this guy.
/r/TheRedPill13/04/17 05:25 AM
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The female psyche, in all environments and in all ways, tends toward unhappiness and dissatisfaction No, it doesn't, at least not especially. The human psyche tends towards inertia and as such, without serious introspection most people get 'stuck' in a default set of emotions. Society programs certain emotions into us with perpetual stress, stimulation and discouraging relaxing or social times in favour of mindless entertainment or events. So, most people float through life in apathy-depression-…
/r/TheRedPill13/04/17 01:59 AM
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Really? Those guys make me think "you do you buddy" and smile back, like the Jesus freaks who tell you they pray for you. The ones that make me sad are the guys who say it in an Eeyore voice one onion-slice away from flooding the city with their water-works. I guess I know that they know, but they try to convince themselves it used to work it really did and just end up eternally digging a deeper hole.
/r/TheRedPill13/04/17 01:47 AM

Opening, just don't make her think or offend her. Check my post history for "how to approach" for more detail, can't post a reddit link in this sub unfortunately. To get her speaking I just keep grabbing conversational threads until something clicks and she keeps talking about it. From there just open ended questions and let the conversation flow. To make it very clear for you; here is an example from my last cold approach: "Cheerleader?" She was wearing a varsity sweater. "No haha why?" "You lo…
/r/TheRedPill13/04/17 01:22 AM

Opening, just don't make her think or offend her. Check my post history for "how to approach" for more detail, can't post a reddit link in this sub unfortunately. To get her speaking I just keep grabbing conversational threads until something clicks and she keeps talking about it. From there just open ended questions and let the conversation flow. To make it very clear for you; here is an example from my last cold approach: "Cheerleader?" She was wearing a varsity sweater. "No haha why?" "You lo…
/r/TheRedPill13/04/17 01:22 AM

Opening, just don't make her think or offend her. Check my post history for "how to approach" for more detail, can't post a reddit link in this sub unfortunately. To get her speaking I just keep grabbing conversational threads until something clicks and she keeps talking about it. From there just open ended questions and let the conversation flow. To make it very clear for you; here is an example from my last cold approach: "Cheerleader?" She was wearing a varsity sweater. "No haha why?" "You lo…
/r/TheRedPill13/04/17 01:22 AM

Opening, just don't make her think or offend her. Check my post history for "how to approach" for more detail, can't post a reddit link in this sub unfortunately. To get her speaking I just keep grabbing conversational threads until something clicks and she keeps talking about it. From there just open ended questions and let the conversation flow. To make it very clear for you; here is an example from my last cold approach: "Cheerleader?" She was wearing a varsity sweater. "No haha why?" "You lo…
/r/TheRedPill13/04/17 01:22 AM
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To get her speaking I just keep grabbing conversational threads until something clicks and she keeps talking about it. From there just open ended questions and let the conversation flow. To make it very clear for you; here is an example from my last cold approach: "Cheerleader?" She was wearing a varsity sweater. "No haha why?" "You look so preppy with your sweater..." "Oh haha thanks it's just a sweater." "Legit my favourite piece of clothing. I know most people relax in pyjamas but for me it's…
/r/TheRedPill13/04/17 01:20 AM
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To be honest I don't drive, however I know the absence of touch and eye contact can build sexual tension very well so I'd focus on my conversational pacing and tonality to turn her on.
/r/TheRedPill13/04/17 01:10 AM
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As a counterpoint: finding a good girl and setting the tone from the start can actually do this. I had a live in girlfriend for a month or two last year who was great. She used to clean the house, do the shopping and cooking while I was at work/uni. Really took the stress off during a busy period. Same girl was banging me while living with her boyfriend, who was sole-income and took care of her sick cat etc. It was mostly the frame it came from: I wanted a woman who would take care of the menial…
/r/TheRedPill13/04/17 12:08 AM
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Lol @ counting eye contacts; I presented that as a very vague rule as opposed to the older view that one should always stare a women down when eye contact is made. The lol @ comes because you then say"be yourself" with the same advice I give about letting them talk (even same %). You're not presenting the opposite view, I think you just haven't considered that a lot of guys lack experience to the point where being themselves is unviable because they don't know what to do, so they should act like…
/r/TheRedPill12/04/17 11:55 PM
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It's probably better to pick up girls on foot and lead them to your car then try to get them from your car. That sounds dangerous.
/r/TheRedPill12/04/17 09:33 PM
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100%. Kissing is just a good gauge of how keen she is to get fucked, I think doing it at the bar/dance floor is a slight negative overall but doing it at the second location- despite that location often sucking, being an alleyway or park etc- works well as a gauge without endangering the vibe or gifting closure. So, I do it like that most the time but have also pulled without kissing a few times, especially very quick pulls.
/r/TheRedPill12/04/17 09:26 PM
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Good shit here. I wouldn't say I have a 100% success with this (lol) but it definitely works most of the time.
/r/TheRedPill26/03/17 05:56 PM
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My default facial expression is either blank (not bitch face, completely slack) or smirking. YMMV but honestly I don't think it matters much whatever you do. Slow smiles tend to extend eye-contact, as does anything else that is 'cheeky'/mildly surprising like pointing, winking, yelling something out, etc. For example if you make eye-contact with a girl then yell "Are you checking me out or trying to figure out where you've seen me before?" She will maintain that eye-contact. Who knows if she'll …
/r/TheRedPill15/03/17 12:18 AM
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What I consider gaming- convincing negative or neutral girls to go home with you- is very low return. I have maybe ten experiences where a neutral girl has become interested and slept with me because of something I said or did. Much more common is just "Don't fuck up" mode, whereby so long as I escalate and ask her home the words matter very little because the sexual context was established from go.
/r/TheRedPill15/03/17 12:15 AM
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Depends on the smile. If you plaster it on then yes. If it's a 'slow smile' that spreads across your face and is one of your expressions, not all of them, then it works well for opening people up.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/17 04:19 AM
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With two girls, pay attention to their body language. If they're facing each other and obviously in deep discussion I just won't approach. If they're turned partly away and scanning the bar that is prime. With these, I just approach and go for the more interested seeming girl, unless there is a large difference in my preference in which case I'll go for that one. Once I've committed to that choice I'll just pull some random good looking guy in, although often another guy will approach once the g…
/r/TheRedPill14/03/17 04:18 AM
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What you're talking about is just an excuse to flirt and when you realize that, you realize the real communication is happening a layer deeper. The true interaction is the pauses, the eye-contact, the slow drift into each others personal space. The words you're saying at this point barely matter. Having a few auto-pilot conversation topics will help you out at first. If you have a cute pet that's a good one. Anything cool about your life. Otherwise teasing usually keeps the conversation going, b…
/r/TheRedPill13/03/17 02:17 AM
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Having your weight on your heels so your head is behind the line of your hips. Leading with the dick in other words. Yeah, that's the attitude. U/roeddit summed it up very well: Just throw some chum in the water and if there's no bite, there's nothing more you can do.
/r/TheRedPill12/03/17 04:20 PM
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Roosh is more trash tier than Mystery. There is a deleted thread where he talks about his best year as being 12 lays, which is good for a normal person but abysmal for a guru. To put it in perspective he is probably slightly better looking than Jeffy, who managed 50 in a year, while also constantly traveling which is a huge advantage. The guy has next to no game and the vast majority of his advice is either useless or taken from someone else. He completely lacks the experience to make the commen…
/r/TheRedPill10/03/17 03:51 AM
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Having actually read that study; the authors go on to say the most likely cause of the change is measurement error and comment in conclusions that it contradicts the majority of literature on the topic. I don't know why you guys keep quoting a study you clearly haven't read... Edit: my mistake, thought it was the Japanese one with a similar title. Still, this one shows a barely significant drop in testosterone immediately after an orgasm while others show a chronic and significant drop progressi…
/r/TheRedPill09/03/17 07:57 AM
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Read 60 years of challenges books. I'm sure there are good links to his books with the right search words. His stuff sets a great base and I have no qualms about calling him one of my biggest influences in regards to game.
/r/TheRedPill09/03/17 07:20 AM
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No. I'm strongly considering going on a cycle soon however.
/r/TheRedPill09/03/17 07:19 AM
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120 starting in high school, gap year and a bit, two euro trips, uni, day game and nights out. I'm just making up numbers here but I'd say ~30 in high school, 20 my gap year and a bit, ~10 from uni, 20 from day game and the remainder from night time. Europe being a mix of day and night, more night overall but more day than my normal life. For the fifty last year it was mostly done in three 'rounds', the first being Summer holidays, the second being Europe and the third being Christmas break. I o…
/r/TheRedPill09/03/17 02:08 AM
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They're 42cm, slightly over 16in. I'm not tensing that arm at all because it made the camera shake. I couldn't get any other angles to not look like utter shit sorry. For some reason my phone camera is really foggy, even after a clean and my body blocks the lights if I stand face on. Like I said I'll post better pics later once I've had a chance to find more, but they won't be as up-to-date as the one I took 30min ago.
/r/TheRedPill08/03/17 02:38 PM
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Thank you, I tried to make it something I would want to read. I'm going to write a few more. I was thinking one on LMR, one on escalation and one on the female ideal body-type because they're all things I know inside out.
/r/TheRedPill08/03/17 02:21 PM
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I've been there and it is a lot of fun. There is nothing wrong with it but IME it isn't the best way to get laid a lot or with the highest quality girls. Still, I wouldn't go back in time and change having done it because it was a lot of fun and taught me a lot about women.
/r/TheRedPill08/03/17 02:17 PM
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I've theorized on this a fair bit and you hit the nail on the head with what I've come up with. Basically I think each of your interactions is weighted much heavier, be that a push or pull, but you have a much larger leeway towards the beta side because the girl is going to assume you're alpha due to the halo effect. At the same time, she has probably been burned or had friends burned by 'alpha jerks' before, so seeming too similar to that stereotype will flip her panic button and as you said, s…
/r/TheRedPill08/03/17 02:16 PM
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I did nofap for two years total, the longest streak being nine months. My sex drive died after two or three and that was when I quit doing it. Since looking into the whole movement with greater scrutiny, knowing the scientific method and having access to journal articles I've realized the premise is flawed for s lot of reasons. Maybe I'll post an article about it in the future because it's a big, misunderstood and controversial topic thst raises a lot of hackles. For me I masturbate about twice …
/r/TheRedPill08/03/17 01:18 PM
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I imagine so. If you're not good looking though maybe look elsewhere for advice. My whole game is tailored around that premise.
/r/TheRedPill08/03/17 12:06 PM
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You tried to refute my anecdote with another anecdote... science would suggest people who eat more beta carotene have nicer skin, so yes organ meat of vegetables is the way to go. Greens are also good for skin, as is a higher water intake, which vegetable help with.
/r/TheRedPill08/03/17 12:05 PM
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Public and car. I replied before to the same thing but basically I think of you made public pulls your strong point you could get a lot of them.
/r/TheRedPill08/03/17 12:01 PM
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I've had sex with 120 girls but still have neither simplex of herpes. You can visually inspect the girl for herpes very easily. If you ever see a coldsore move on. HIV is contracted via the absorption of certain body fluids, which can occur through broken or weakened skin as in herpes. As a hetero male getting HIV is very difficult unless you have herpes or share needles.
/r/TheRedPill08/03/17 04:35 AM
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12 girls is more than the average guy. I learned very early you will get better results striving to compete with outliers, thus when I found good looking guys who had banged 50+ girls I started emulating them and learned from it.
/r/TheRedPill08/03/17 04:20 AM
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I know man, I was trying to write something for me when I was 18 and good looking, but had prioritised game over social skills and wasn't maximizing my potential. The thing is if a good looking dude does what an ugly guy does to pickup, it seems to be overcompensating and is shooting yourself in the foot. Basically just as the hot guys game is bad for the ugly guy, so too is the ugly guys game bad for the hot guy. I was lucky enough to 'meet' a Swedish guy online who taught me that this was the …
/r/TheRedPill08/03/17 04:18 AM
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Girls don't know a thing about muscle. I get told I have huge arms with 16 inch pipes. Just being lean and having more muscle than normal is enough. Honestly very little difference between 85, 90, 95 and 100kgs at 10-12%bf but 85 or 90kgs at 8ish trumps them all. Lean beats big.
/r/TheRedPill08/03/17 04:13 AM
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Hahaha no. MM is trash tier. It was my introduction to game and I revisited it many years later. Basically its gaming for validation, not for pussy. You will get a lot of laughs, smiles, oohs and ahhs but little sex. The fact that Mystery believes anything less than seven hours is 'fools game' should prove this. It also backfires completely in repeated social situations, like university. Mystery is also really good looking yet never seemed to do that well.
/r/TheRedPill08/03/17 04:11 AM
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No idea, I moved out of home at 15. I would say nust public sex. Probably 1/5 times I have sex its in public even with a home so it shouldn't be a big deal and if you purposefully go for that niche I would imagine great success.
/r/TheRedPill08/03/17 04:03 AM
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Yeah, there are a lot of good looking people with poor social skills not maximizing it from TRP, based on what I've read and my IRL friends. This is for them. If youre not good looking, go elsewhere for game advice. I'd say the best bet for anyone is just find a guru with a similar overall aesthetic, looks and style, then imitate them and add or remove things as needed.
/r/TheRedPill08/03/17 04:01 AM
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I wanted to see how many girls I could sleep with in a year. I did about two a week from the start to finish of Summer holidays, then one week from semester start until mid-sem. The weather got way worse and I settle down down with a cool chick for two months, then went to Europe for six weeks and slept with 17 girls. Got back and did one a week again, another two month break then realised I was at 45 at the start of December and decided 50 would be my goal. Got that Christmas Eve. Would never d…
/r/TheRedPill08/03/17 03:24 AM
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Don't go out to day game, go out to do something then if you see a girl approach her. I average one DG approach a day in 2015, which was my best year for daygame, despite doing about 20 times the approaches the year before. I think you end up seeming desperate when you go out during the day to pickup.
/r/TheRedPill08/03/17 01:57 AM
0

It depends more on how you treat her during as to whether you will seem needy or not. The radio silence method for me only works if I ping her a quick text straight after (even just "had fun tonight") then leave it. I also don't really set up the second meet the first time we text, I'll do that a day or two after we start talking again. I get a lot of problems from girls thinking I just want to fuck so I'm trying to maximise based on that issue though.
/r/TheRedPill08/03/17 01:55 AM
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Watch two girls who are really good friends talk, look at how much they touch each other and how. That's basically the same as what I do l. In terms of ladder, I always touch arms, shoulders and back first. To escalate that I touch the same places, but I slowly get closer to the girl. I use Xenos arrow here, halving the distance between us at every milestone but never quite getting to full-body contact. I won't touch anything more sexual than her neck or face (even then with an excuse like earri…
/r/TheRedPill08/03/17 01:51 AM
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I eat a lot of meat. I didn't need to push the benefits of meat to TRP though so I only mentioned that vegetables are awesome and we should all probably eat more. I feel a lot better eating 200g less steak and an extra six serves of vegetables a day.
/r/TheRedPill08/03/17 01:27 AM
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I'm posting this as a placeholder comment for an image once I've finished work. For me personally putting on muscle is a struggle, but keeping lean is super easy. I just don't like eating that much; I got up to 100kg at 12% bf and have been dropping about a kilo a fortnight since, whilst still gymming. Edit: my phone camera fucking sucks. I'll upload the pic in a few minutes but it's looks like it was taken in a sauna. I'll post a whole new topic about my experience at different weight and bf% w…
/r/TheRedPill08/03/17 01:25 AM
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Your title is "your words outweigh your looks". My point is looks outweigh words, should actions be comparable. The actions in this case being isolating and escalating. Honestly, even approaching isn't that necessary for this comparison because just going out is enough to get approached when you look good.
/r/TheRedPill07/03/17 05:02 PM
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She was one of the hottest girls I've ever had; which is saying something. Honestly it actually was cute but probably only because she was so sexy and it seemed coy. That and her whispering random Swedish phrases right into my ear. Also she didn't make me wear a rubber, then took the pill in front of me. 10/10 would do again.
/r/TheRedPill07/03/17 04:16 PM
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You can keep going in circles here trying to justify your point, but mine is very simple. A better looking man will outdo a better player 9/10 times, so long as they both have the absolute fundamentals. Those being the ability to escalate and isolate. If you were to halve my looks, I would have sex with maybe five girls a year. If you were to halve my conversational skills it would be maybe five less. Just mull that over.
/r/TheRedPill07/03/17 04:14 PM
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you'll be freightened I'd explain but I'm afraid of the freight-train-of-pain.
/r/TheRedPill07/03/17 04:09 PM
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I have lost the confidence and kept the looks, still succeeding. For about a year I was a heavy pot smoker, which made me lazy and gave me social anxiety to the nth degree. I still pulled >10 girls that year of <20 'approaches' all of which were highly telegraphed to me. You're right about the absolute bullshit point. A better way to put it would be "a man of average looks will pull better with perfect wordplay, a man of better looks will outdo him with even average wordplay". Another point you …
/r/TheRedPill07/03/17 06:25 AM
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The first girl was visibly pissed the entire night and before having sex stopped me to say "you have to be nice to me after I do this." Think she may have had daddy issues. Second girl continues to bitch about me and while she continued to booty-call me for a month or so she now makes concerted efforts to kill my social life.
/r/TheRedPill07/03/17 06:17 AM
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"Google vaccination autism and be shocked by the sheer number of links there are"
/r/TheRedPill07/03/17 06:15 AM
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You are an idiot and brainwashed due to your idiocy. Google "increased risk of HIV herpes." From memory it's a 9x increase in the risk of getting HIV. But that's fine right, because HIV is just big pharma tryna get ur doller. Also 80% of THE WORLD population has HSV-1, but less than 60% of The West has it. Incidence rates are greater than 99% in Sub-Saharan Africa, where incidentally HIV rates are >70%. Having a disease which weakens your immune system and creates holes in your bodies barriers a…
/r/TheRedPill07/03/17 05:18 AM
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Sorry but absolute BS. I'm very good looking and have got away with borderline retarded social skills more times than I can count. Here are a few examples: •got into an argument with a very hot Swedish girl about Trump, immigrants and Hitler. Took her home anyway. •Got into an argument about gender wage gaps with a hyper-feminist but quite cute girl in an English elective. Had sex with her a week later. Also made her admit a bunch of anti-feminist shit like me are stronger etc. •did nothing but …
/r/TheRedPill07/03/17 04:24 AM
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Not true where I live. I'm borderline autistic during uni due to the workload. Still get approached/asked out. When I game during break I obviously pull a lot more but saying you're fucked without social skills no matter how good looking you are is ridiculous. I'm probably only ~8-8.5 as well.
/r/TheRedPill10/01/17 05:23 AM
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That is untrue. I'd say the hot girls I've laid are 50/50 between being very social and apathetic socially. The latter still post on Instagram and have 10k followers oftentimes, but they spend their whole weekend at home or with a few close friends. Hell, the out-and-out hottest girl I've fucked used to just come over to my house Friday night and leave Monday night, refusing to leave to even go get a drink unless I forced her to. The only time she would leave was for the beach or gym.
/r/TheRedPill10/01/17 05:21 AM
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Actually depression during the great depression was ironically low. It also was a time of innovation. Stagnation and comfort breed resentment, which leads to zeitgests like the current where people force their own problems to exist. People need problems. Our brains are problem solving machines.
/r/TheRedPill10/01/17 12:21 AM
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Sorry for the delay, don't check in often. maybe my games not that good yet? but my main point wasn't about her being stolen more acting up. but your point is valid. It has very little to do with your 'game' and a whole lot to do with your prospects. The only game that really matters is recognizing your true value. As an example, I swooped this girl last year who was a real diamond in the rough. Very hot and smart but insecure because she'd been dating the same guy since her virginity/first year…
/r/TheRedPill09/01/17 11:23 PM
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I like to do it so I can go out with mates without having the temptation to bail when a cutie is DTF. I know I'm going home with the girl I brought and there's no time limit so I just chill and enjoy it. I don't know what all this fear of having her stolen stems from. Seems unhealthy. Good mates won't, more importantly though you should be of high enough quality improving fast enough that she would literally have to be retarded to test you. Girls won't play up even a little if they think you can…
/r/TheRedPill22/12/16 04:14 AM
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There's like 4 months of break a year. I just go out during break. It's not that hard to collect a few FWBs over the two month summer break, then keep them over the three month semester.
/r/TheRedPill22/12/16 04:03 AM
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They've done studies and metabolism varies less than 10% between individuals. The reasons for obesity are less NEAT (non-exercise activity time) and lower calorie consumption estimations. IE fat people are lazy and deluded.
/r/TheRedPill02/11/16 08:15 AM
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The rampant contradictions within these three sentences made my head spin.
/r/TheRedPill02/11/16 08:12 AM
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Be really, really good looking.
/r/seduction20/10/16 05:21 PM
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Google "Isometric contraction" and or "stablizing activity". Or, if you also have access to EMG technology, electrode up and get to it. You have given 0 evidence of why this is a bad position and probably also believe behind the neck pressing will give you AIDs so I'll ignore future comments of this manner. That's not even a 2x bw squat, yet you're disagreeing with my advice on lat training WITH NO EVIDENCE? If I also had no evidence it could be a difference of opinion; but considering your stre…
/r/TheRedPill30/09/16 05:34 AM
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I'm not sure how you think impingement can be caused by an exercise which simply moves to end ROM for shoulder flexion; especially considering straight arms aren't even necessary. Saying it only loads 10-20deg is ridiculous and shows you probably haven't done them. It loads from 90deg to 180+deg. You haven't actually read any of those studies if you're using them to support your argument. Just out of interest, what % of your own body weight do you squat?
/r/TheRedPill25/09/16 07:42 AM
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Won't work for everyone but works well for me. Plus the fact everyone from Sandow to Arnie loved them. Short ROM with heavy weights is the best for packing on mass IME. Also backed by Paul Anderson, Jamie Lewis etc. If it's a bad position for your shoulders then you have unhealthy shoulders. Also its a fairly long ROM on chest with constant tension. The fibres are diagonal across the girdle so it's nearly as long as flies.
/r/TheRedPill24/09/16 04:20 PM
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Isolation? You've never done it. Pullovers are brutal for abs, chest, lats and tris. They were a favourite of old time strongmen and were frequently paired with squats.
/r/TheRedPill24/09/16 02:22 PM
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Nah was a PT for years. What most people call overtraining is just psychological apathy to bew habits.
/r/TheRedPill27/07/16 08:13 PM
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Not being condescending; subjective vs objective reality is actually a higher level philosophy. Should have remembered reddit is actually fairly intellectual though.
/r/seduction27/07/16 08:12 PM
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Your post does that. Even if you've read this before, eveb if you've mastered the lesson, you're a minority. Reading other peoples examples of life lessons helps implementation and is a huge function of this sub.
/r/TheRedPill27/07/16 10:36 AM
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Reading comprehension 0 out of 10.
/r/TheRedPill27/07/16 10:34 AM
1

Making out.
/r/TheRedPill27/07/16 10:34 AM
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Google subjective vs objective. I personally hate Coldplay but I'm sure many will disagree.
/r/seduction27/07/16 02:14 AM
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No, it doesnt. You're not going to get rhabdo from 3x a week training and if you're complaining about anything else it's probably that time of the month.
/r/TheRedPill27/07/16 02:11 AM
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That depends. I've moved through the tracks with girls a few times; I've noticed submissive and dependent are inextricably linked. The correlation is near perfect and I'll take a little more hand holding for a lot more getting what I want.
/r/TheRedPill01/05/16 04:26 AM
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lets say there are two girls and both look exactly like Mila Kunis; pretty face and great body. OK first of all Mila Kunis is 32 and looks 32. If you've ever had sex with anyone that age, hell usually 25 plus now no one takes care of their body, you know it's not worth it. Oh yeah sure there is the odd 32 year old who looks 17 but for the most part their skin has that give to it, like their life is slowly dissipating into the scenery. Anyway, less confident guys who will bend their backs to get …
/r/TheRedPill01/05/16 03:42 AM
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That's a neat point, I'm not going to disagree with it. It isn't related though. Again the premise is (in this situation) men and women have equal responsibility, thus should be held equally accountable for the action. Meaning the beta is just as much to blame as me, is just as much to blame as she is. This statement is a simple If Y, then X logical argument. You can refute it if you want, talking about good dads isn't doing that.
/r/TheRedPill01/05/16 03:34 AM
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Unfortunately you're not using sound logic here. Your argument is if males have better self control, then females are less justified in cheating. That makes literally 0 sense. You can say women and men have equal self control and thus equal responsibility for their actions, meaning cheating is equally bad. You can say they have less self control, thus less responsibility. You can say they more self control, thus more responsibility. What you can't say is they have less control, thus more respons…
/r/TheRedPill29/04/16 04:35 AM
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REJECTION HAS A PRICE. There’s a lot of dating advice that says, “Get rejected a lot to get over your fear of rejection.” I disagree with this. Too much rejection can lead to a loss of hope. Hope is actually required for improvement and to continue living. This is written about in depth in Viktor Frankl’s Man’s Search For Meaning. Best part of article. This never gets said but it needs to. It's only now, six years and probably nearly a century of rejections in, that I realize this. I have a very…
/r/seduction27/04/16 05:44 AM
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Dude she clearly works out, her thigh and hip development is on point. She has back grooves. Her calves are bigger than most people's arms.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 05:20 AM
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I've seen it taken to 1% in womens favour if you take into account total hours worked and position too. Bot to mention men travel further to work on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 05:51 AM
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Say hey and go from there. There are fkn billions of women btw, not that one girl.
/r/seduction26/04/16 04:39 AM
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It works very, very, very, very well.... if you can do it without seeming desperate. It's such a fine line between "I want to take your beautiful body and ravish you to oblivion." and "I need sex so bad" that imo, not worth doing until you're already really solid. I used to use Shock and Awe a lot (Google it) and it was the first thing that p much guaranteed me a lay. Now however I'd stick to being physically direct, being direct with your eye contact and being direct with both thoughts and acti…
/r/seduction26/04/16 04:19 AM
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No. Too far away. Tinder is like takeaway: you want it when you want it. If you order Chinese food and they say "Hey sorry we can't deliver til Friday that cool?" You're going to say no, irrelevant of how good it looked.
/r/seduction26/04/16 04:09 AM
1

Depends on you. If I need a boost to test I'll jack it 3 times a day for a week or two.
/r/seduction26/04/16 04:07 AM
1

Used to do 5 nights a week, now I do two. I focus more on social circle now which is a good choice.
/r/seduction26/04/16 12:09 AM
1

Is that the casting couch?
/r/seduction26/04/16 12:07 AM
1

This reply is 110% Sherlock accurate Holmes. I will however add her messages should be ~50% longer than your messages. Here you're sending five times more than she is easily. She's not invested at all and thus it was easier to unmatch you.
/r/seduction26/04/16 12:06 AM
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Everytime i ask to chill its a dub but we've gotten pretty close the past week and asked her for drinks and said sure gave her two options Don't do that. Ask when she is free. she said she was busy monday then i said tuesday and she never responded (read snap) Now you're chasing. Sounds like she probably isn't very interested if at all. Otherwise she'd reply to a direct invitation. Also, never go for the next day, it makes it look like you have nothing on. Even if she suggests it, never go for t…
/r/seduction26/04/16 12:01 AM
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Yeah this is probably one of the three or four sticking points 99.99% of guys go through. Which means you should get lots of good advice. Mine would be that there is two elements to escalation: getting the girl receptive and pulling the trigger. The second is just raw confidence so I'll focus on the first. You need to build off the natural undercurrent of sexual tension so as to put her in a sexually responsive state. You want her to start giving you those subtle signals she wants you to make a …
/r/seduction25/04/16 11:49 PM
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Talk to the guys who are best with girls and ask them to bring girls. Bonus points if you tell them you're asking because they're good with girls, will tie their ego to it.
/r/seduction25/04/16 11:30 PM
2

Whatever the truth is works best IME. At the moment that means saying "I like us, I don't want to rush into labels, that killed my last relationship. I just want to let it grow organically."
/r/seduction25/04/16 11:27 PM
1

... except entitlement to 1/3 of his earnings for 18 years.
/r/TheRedPill25/04/16 11:23 PM
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Good men have self control and good wives don't get fat You just proved my point... you're saying men have good self control, insinuating (as is openly stated elsewhere on this sub) that women don't. If women really don't have as good self control, then of course we shouldn't hold them as accountable for the failure to exercise such.
/r/TheRedPill25/04/16 06:38 AM
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Yeah pretty common concept, called the feeler/probe elsewhere. The best one for me is "Hey." I don't even bother unless they look pleased to be talking to me.
/r/seduction25/04/16 01:40 AM
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Exposure man. You'll start feeling in their league when you've talked to a shit load of them and you're more attractive from gym etc.
/r/seduction25/04/16 01:36 AM
2

The serial killer one is apt to backfire. All of these from u/ImJustSo are good. I'd just go with the truth and a light sprinkle of humour. Or tell them you only have friends on facebook and watch the supplication frenzy ensue.
/r/seduction25/04/16 01:35 AM
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I can tell you're having trouble imagining the reverse so I'll paint a better picture: Let's say you're the average guy who hasn't unplugged. You have a McWife. Your McWife gets McFat and McBitchy. Your 19 year old secretary starts wearing sluttier clothes. Would you fuck the secretary? Of course you would. Hypergamy works both ways. Long term mono relationships are fucked for everyone involved because very, very few people can last beyond two or three years with the same person. Sex gets boring…
/r/TheRedPill24/04/16 04:03 PM
1

Just to be a counter balance to this: shit tests are not the only thing you'll face, often you won't get shit tested at all and there are many more ways to handle a shit test than AA, misinterpret or ignore.
/r/TheRedPill22/04/16 03:03 AM
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Stop fucking the slut though. You're only rewarding her for shitty behavior. Don't let her to continue torturing the poor soul. Tell her she either breaks up with him or gets no more dick. Is honestly a very quality girl. Beautiful, interesting, submissive, feminine, very low body count. I don't like the attitude of "she's a bitch skank for cheating on a beta." Think of it this way: you're in a monogamous relationship with a great girl who turns you on a lot. Over the course of the next three ye…
/r/TheRedPill22/04/16 02:56 AM
2

Nothing. The only reason I want to do it is because I feel it would make the world a better place. Maybe it's sympathy from having been there myself.
/r/TheRedPill21/04/16 11:51 PM
1

I like 60s warmup: you start one normal convo and burn it to the ground/bail. You physically escalate the next one. I try to pull the third. Then you have no fear of the three biggest moments because you've blown each of them up/successfully done it.
/r/seduction21/04/16 12:06 AM
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Most athletes in most sports do a lot of isolation work. Boxers do scarecrows and lat raises, soccer players do X walks, ad nauseum. I can keep coming up with examples for you because I used to train athletes. Overall you're right, myself and the other coaches would prescribe 90%+ compound, but I struggle to think of an athlete without a weakness that could be better improved from isolation. There are also points within movement patterns of a sport that are stressed in a way isolation better mim…
/r/TheRedPill20/04/16 02:18 AM
1

Depending on the camp, they may do a shitload of isolation exercises. It's the same with all oly athletes. Most gymnasts do curls to condition the biceps tendon, most cyclists do crunches, etc.
/r/TheRedPill20/04/16 01:52 AM
1

Yes. Casual sex is the shit and girls <25 much prefer it. There will be shit tests tho
/r/seduction19/04/16 11:55 PM
1

If they lose interest in 8 days you would have to be boring af. Seriously you can go two weeks with minimal contact and they'll still be keen.
/r/seduction19/04/16 11:53 PM
1

Night game girls are coming out with a girl. That might be have fun, get laid, kiss a dude etc. Daygame you're catching them unawares. That can be a good or a bad thing.
/r/seduction19/04/16 11:52 PM
1

It's sort of 50/50 but hitting sexual state and building that sexual tension.
/r/seduction19/04/16 11:50 PM
0

Yeah I've been there. We dated for two years, little over half of that monogamous. Honestly it was a great learning experience for me. I learned to love. I hadn't achieved my superficial or holistic goals from pickup either, but I'm young. We broke up with a promise to reconnect in future and I've been pounding goals ever since. Got my first 3sum about three months after, now trying to get into a cuckquean relstionship.
/r/seduction19/04/16 11:49 PM
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this line is ONLY to test the sociability of the girl. If she screws her nose up, just laugh and move on. If she responds positively, then great. DON’T follow her if she walks away and DO NOT say you will talk later. Something I never see talked about much on here: you're just flipping stones. Let's say 5/6 girls are nice to you, 1/6 is disinterested and 1/6 will fuck you.... you need to ping 6-12 girls a night. That's the numbers game component of this and basically anything can be used to play…
/r/seduction19/04/16 11:45 PM
1

a mixed set is good because it shows you have balls to approach a group with a man in it. My point is once you have the sack to do so, there isn't much point in doing so. Eh...I've gotten laid with the flu and closed a girl who ripped her foot open on the way into my building. There is something to be said for making the best of situations. We all have the stories about having tonsilitis and getting laid, or going out feeling like shit and getting laid, etc. Again my point isn't that it doesn't …
/r/seduction19/04/16 11:36 PM
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No. I've said many times, framing it as hanging out to do an activity is much better than a date. Date sends the wrong signal. If she wants sex and fun, she will just use you for food and wine or would have fucked you anyway. If she doesn't then she'll just use you for food and wine. The date isn't about impressing the girl, she's already attracted and thus is on a date with you. The date os to build comfort and anticipation in a location nesr your house.
/r/seduction19/04/16 05:29 AM
1

More accurately, I started 12 o clock stopping the same way the LDM guys do without the running bit. Running feels lame and desperate tbh
/r/seduction19/04/16 12:58 AM
2

I've noticed a difference in quality of relationship from treating as a shit test or honest answer. If you treat it as a shit test, they bring it up every few weeks anyway because you won't tell them. If you just answer honesty, they'll bring it up once when they feel neglected and you say something like "I enjoy the company of women, that's a part of me. I'm with you now, I want this to be special, don't make it about other people." EDIT: if your number is small, treat it as a shit test 100%. D…
/r/seduction19/04/16 12:08 AM
1

So you're walking in opposite directions, you're not in her path but you stop what- 3 steps out? Then you're facing her and she's side on to you, your opener is? My style is plausibly indirect from a front stop/rotating stop. Pretty aggressive and definitely not for everyone. Down to try anything this is just what works best for me so far.
/r/seduction19/04/16 12:01 AM
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If you approach at an angle they will rarely stop. I did hundreds of street stops in December and started to notice that, then read Krausers book and realized I coulda saved myself hundreds of street stops. They were mostly for shigs anyhow tho so no loss.
/r/seduction18/04/16 11:04 PM
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Anything can be fun if you make it fun. Here are my favourite dates: Grocery shopping then back to mine to put the meat in the vagina fridge. Wine on the river, recently moved so no longer "Walk to X park" but we meet at mine and 8/10 times never go anywhere With girls I'm already banging we'll do mildly illegal/risky things like explore buildings If she flakes on you say "ok but next time you better buy me a smoothie" then go on a smoothie date for free.
/r/seduction18/04/16 11:01 PM
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You're bigger and demand more presence. That is all.
/r/seduction17/04/16 04:14 AM
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Two simple rules that will prevent this 100%: 1) Never open from behind 2) always approach mixed sets indirectly. Even better, never approach mixed sets and stick to opening singles and doubles of girls. They're the girls looking to get laid and it cuts the difficulty down by half. You're not missing out on girls either: the girls in big groups wanting to get laid know they won't be approached so they split off to do things alone or with a friend.
/r/seduction17/04/16 04:12 AM
1

Very few women are put off by men direct in action, very many are put off by men direct in speech.
/r/seduction17/04/16 04:09 AM
0

German girls are very easy to break though. They have fuck all options at an alpha in their country so one stern "You play too many games and I'm no longer interested in you" will get you them all all sappy. IME they then shit test often, but easy. They've probably never practiced with a real alpha and they're always hypersensitized so a simple allegation of racism tends to bowl them over. Note; I'm white af but have Jewish ancestry. If you have literally any non-Aryan background they'll bend at…
/r/TheRedPill17/04/16 03:57 AM
3

I have to disagree. I think you've exaggerated the amount of effort it takes to keep a relationship healthy. You just need these three things: Be 'dating down'. This doesn't mean in looks necessarily- you can date women far more beautiful than you if you have more power. You can date woman far more powerful than you if you're more desirable than they. Always keep working on yourself. You should be doing this anyway. If you're a rising asset and she's a declining asset (by nature) then of course …
/r/TheRedPill16/04/16 04:47 PM
1

Imagine how much harder our mission would be if every single guy was hitting the gym and raising his SMV Wait... Isn't the mission of the Redpill to fundamentally change the system within which we live so as to make it better for all people? Or did you just wanna get ripped and fuck girls while Rome burns?
/r/TheRedPill16/04/16 02:23 PM
1

*You are obviously a newb. Far from it man. Lay count over 60, averaging a little better than one a week this year. Again, I used to think finding a virgin is just a societal programming thing, but it isn't. At the very least I'd want to take my wifes anal virginity. It shows she has control and self worth to not be sleeping around so much. Honestly so few girls have that anymore. None of them save anything for a special time. I've taken half a dozen anal V's this year alone, just casual sex. Th…
/r/seduction16/04/16 02:21 PM
2

It isn't so dangerous as long as you play it cool and play it discreet. I have a VERY insular network at uni of around 30 people, guys and girls. I've fucked more than one girl in this group. When you fuck several girls eventually some drama happens and everyone hates you. Basically so long as you're A) a cool casual guy who doesn't take this shit seriously and B) a locked box on anyone you've slept with, then no one will have any issue with you.
/r/seduction16/04/16 02:17 PM
1

I used to avoid virgins like the plague. Now the idea that no matter what, I was the first guy to feel that pussy open up, to feel the give as her ass relaxed just enough to take me, knowing that from now until her death she will always remember you as that guy. Being her last to boot would be a cherry on the cake.
/r/seduction16/04/16 02:03 PM
1

Being emotionally uncontrolled and jealous doesn't, standing up to someone else does. I agree it's not the best thing to do or the best way to do it but it's sure as hell better than slinking off in defeat and looking longingly at the girl who gave you attention ala most chodes.
/r/seduction16/04/16 02:01 PM
1

There is more than one confident action in every situation. Don't act like that wouldn't take balls.
/r/seduction15/04/16 10:41 AM
1

Just kiss them man. Sexual vibe is more important than the connection, especially with horny drunk babes on the d floor.
/r/seduction15/04/16 10:25 AM
5

Most girls are fine with it in a casual way. Don't prod them about sex though. Just ask low risk questions or make low risk statements to gauge their receptiveness. Ramp it up from there if possible. An example low risk statement would be this (true story) "once I made out with a girl and she grabbed the back of my head and just blew as hard as she could into my mouth. Felt like a balloon." A low risk question would be anything you're comfortable asking. I consider public sex questions low risk …
/r/seduction15/04/16 10:21 AM
0

Ur wasting time mf, instead of asking such a flat out retarded question you coulda used some intellect to construct something acceptable. For example: we know nothing about you. You shy? Jacked? Rich af? All of these can change the game style you're suited to. what type of girls are you into? Uni girls and milfs may as well be different species. what's your life circumstances? Ie shared house, nesr the city, etc. prior exp. etc fuckn etc
/r/seduction15/04/16 10:18 AM
0

How about you read ANY OF THE INFORMATION IN THIS COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT IS WHAT 90% OF IT IS ABOUT????
/r/seduction15/04/16 05:14 AM
1

Hearing another girl being well flirted with turns girls on. So many phenomena can be explained by this.
/r/seduction15/04/16 05:13 AM
1

Dude tonnes of the highest quality chaste pussy won't kiss you first date. They're not my type but man, when I'm like 40 and want a family that'd be the girl for me.
/r/seduction15/04/16 05:12 AM
2

X1000000
/r/seduction15/04/16 05:10 AM
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Upvote because a) you're going out and dating enough to be able to define your type in terms more realistic than those the porno aficionados use B) you did a good job of analyzing the negatives to 1-10 and highlighting the positives of 0-1. The only thing I think 1-10 is useful for that 0-1 isn't is when there are multiple options for a night. Inspired by your posts I'm doing 0-3: 0=no chance, 1=would fuck once 2=would date 3=angel
/r/seduction15/04/16 05:06 AM
4

Dude, Mystery also invented talking to girls and wearing eye catching outfits. How could he have not invented the 1-10 rating system?
/r/seduction15/04/16 05:03 AM
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*non-neediness
/r/seduction15/04/16 04:24 AM
1

"I like when a girls sex appeal obviously starts with her looks but doesn't just end there". That actually doesn't come across as high value to girls. What comes across as high value is the "I fuck hot girls, I date the ones that turn out to be smart and well behaved" frame. The difference is subtle but important. The first one is essentially saying to her that she needs to be into you for you to want to fuck her... well she probably already knew that. See nearly all girls can seem funny or inte…
/r/seduction14/04/16 01:44 AM
4

Just answer honestly. All these lines are oh-so-funny but won't do anything to build comfort or maintain the sexual tension... so why bother?
/r/seduction14/04/16 01:37 AM
2

Hmm well I'd recommend either the normal way or proposing to her then inviting her for a ride in your space shuttle. Of course, for that second one to work you would need to own a space shuttle. EDIT: Just in case you don't get the sarcasm; it doesn't matter. Don't ask them, just assume you kissed them all and message them as such. The ones who are more into you will be the ones who work out best. IE it will sort itself out. These may or may not be the girls you kissed anyway. Also wait a few da…
/r/seduction14/04/16 01:30 AM
1

Regrow your hair if possible Facial hair to hide chin Rhinoplasty Get jacked Get a big ol dick
/r/seduction14/04/16 01:24 AM
1

Just a casual "Yo what's up" will do. They're probably just curious because you look different and a bit of light conversation can turn that to interest. Plus it's fun.
/r/seduction13/04/16 10:58 PM
3

Language classes are apparently the best. I found communication subjects to be the best I did. Followed by creative English subjects, followed by marketing, followed by psychology. Psychology had some hotties but they were mostly pretty arrogant.
/r/seduction13/04/16 10:56 PM
2

You can touch her a lot so long as you're gentle about. You can even be firm. Think of how you would pat a cat: you let it come to you, start light then linger more and more with firmer strokes. If things are sexual hooking up is irrelevant. Just ask her if she wants to come see your XYZ. In fact if you get the right vibe, you can pretty much sort it from the open and do everything in private.
/r/seduction13/04/16 10:54 PM
0

It's still up man. I shouldn't have to explain to you women often know exactly what they're doing.
/r/seduction13/04/16 05:16 AM
1

Maybe, depends who the host is. Likely won't make a difference but it could be easier because she has a room or harder because she is stressed. Edit: to isolate, ask for a tour of the house. Make your move at her room.
/r/seduction13/04/16 03:15 AM
3

Waaaaaaaaaaay over thinking this buddy.
/r/seduction13/04/16 03:14 AM
2

Stare at her and imagine doing whatever you want with her body. After a suitable period of time she'll get nervous and say what? Then you lean in and kiss her RIGHT ON THE MOUTH. Go from there.
/r/seduction13/04/16 03:13 AM
2

No.
/r/seduction13/04/16 03:11 AM
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Lame af. If she brings it up just ignore it. If you get isolation, ask her who has a better body/bigger dick. Lines are for coke dealers yo
/r/seduction13/04/16 03:11 AM
5

When girls started treating me the way chodes treat girls.
/r/seduction13/04/16 03:09 AM
1

It doesn't. It's like when you ask a girl what she wants in a boyfriend and she says "a sweet nice guy." What she really means is an alpha guy who is sweet and nice to her.
/r/seduction13/04/16 01:27 AM
2

Actually preselection shouldn't work for women. Most men will be turned of by this behavior because it violates what we're biologically programmed to look for.
/r/seduction13/04/16 01:26 AM
2

If in doubt stay silent and smirk.
/r/seduction13/04/16 01:23 AM
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Hahaha relax armchair alpha. If you read the post, she told me an hour earlier she hadn't found a job yet. I highly doubt she found a job while texting me at 8pm. More likely she said it to see how I'd react, IE a shit test.
/r/seduction13/04/16 01:20 AM
1

It was a really long comment but the essence can be summarized by his suggestion to text her "Hey (name) just wondering if they make you texy customers of your phone?" He stipulated previously to text it in a non creepy way but...
/r/seduction13/04/16 01:17 AM
0

Every second message send a dick pic. Not an obvious one, have your dick somewhere in the image. Example; send her a bunch of bananas with your dick resting in the middle and the caption "funny bananas haha"
/r/seduction12/04/16 06:35 AM
1

Talk to her in person and ask for her number.
/r/seduction12/04/16 06:21 AM
1

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo I'm cringing for women everywhere. I'm curious future victim, do I have your number now?
/r/seduction12/04/16 06:21 AM
3

Lol cuddle dates not the best place to go for staying modest. Cool date idea, for him I should prolly say go along with it, but yeah you'll hook up for sure. Probably oral at least. I recommend watching a movie instead, even if you watch porn it's still less likely to lead to anything.
/r/seduction12/04/16 06:18 AM
1

... maybe, never tried it. Probably would work. Try it out. I do like double dates with girls I'm fucking and girls my friend/s are fucking, that's fun. I also like double dates with girls I'm fucking, one of their friends and one of mine. Or one of his, her friend and myself.
/r/seduction12/04/16 03:30 AM
1

A drink. Of tea.
/r/seduction12/04/16 02:43 AM
2

Ignore.
/r/seduction12/04/16 02:39 AM
9

I always say "where do you live? Oh let's split it." Then I make sure we go to mine first. Then I say "You want to come in for a bit?" Then we go inside. I want to say 100% success rate but in reality I just can't remember it not working.
/r/seduction12/04/16 02:11 AM
2

Before you complain/"prove me wrong", think: I've been all four possible combinations of bad/good looking and bad/good at game. I have been all combinations. What do you think when I mean I used to be bad looking? It means like 99% of people with flawed aesthetic appeal; my problems were fixable. There is a minimally small amount of people whose looks deficits wouldn't be assisted by one of the following: Better skin care routine for acne/psoriasis, losing body fat for figure/shape/facial featur…
/r/seduction11/04/16 03:38 PM
2

Lol dude relax. I just said game is not built on vocals. Here's an example of this conversation in another context: Mayweather: 90% of boxing is dodging. Mike Tyson: No, 90% of your boxing is dodging. Mayweather: FUCK YOU HOW DO YOU OFFER A VALID COUNTER OPINION IN ORDER TO EXPAND THE SCOPE OF KNOWLEDGE WITHIN A CONVERSATION! why don't you even show ME up with a submission of your speaking voice. I don't get what that means. Just take a big ol' chill pill brosef, it's the internet yo.
/r/seduction11/04/16 10:54 AM
1

Devils Advocate: Shock and Awe game is a real thing. Look it up. It's pretty nuts.
/r/seduction11/04/16 10:50 AM
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Use it to get their attention: Yo Mary! Use it to add emphasis to a statement: Mary I don't think you listened properly. Use it to make a question more personal: Does that feel good Mary? Use it when issuing commands: Kneel Mary.
/r/seduction11/04/16 10:49 AM
1

Voice is 60-70% of your game. Mine would be 80% sexual tension, built nearly entirely with eye contact, proximity and touch. Verbals are a very small part of my game. I'd also posit that you can get top 1% without having good verbals, but you need good physical game to breach top 5% for sure.
/r/seduction11/04/16 10:07 AM
5

Lie on top of her like you're a big warm blanket and never let go.
/r/seduction11/04/16 12:42 AM
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Yes. Maybe she just checked her phone, then had to do something so she didn't write you a reply write away, then she forgot about it. Who hasn't done that? I have good success with sending "pls respond". I'll wait around three hours then hit them with pls respond then leave it. Usually they send a few laughs and then begin to invest more. Think it's just lazy enough to not come across as needy, rather more curious.
/r/seduction11/04/16 12:41 AM
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He knows that women have sensors that detect insecurity and neediness, and shut such guys off instantly. No woman will want to fuck a guy who hates women, or other men. Women instinctively seek out those who are the leader of men, and of women; guys who "bring together", not "break apart" or brutes. I agree with everything, good post, needed to be said. The only matter to which I will disagree is as quoted. Saying no woman will want X is an absolute, in a pursuit where certainty is the thing whi…
/r/seduction10/04/16 10:37 AM
1

No we've got a whole community for that. Dig in.
/r/seduction09/04/16 01:53 AM
1

This guys got it.
/r/seduction08/04/16 08:39 AM
1

Outside your house.
/r/seduction08/04/16 08:39 AM
1

Yeah dude I know. I mean the idealic family. I don't know about you, but when I imagine dream family I could have grown up in there is a shit load of money involved
/r/seduction08/04/16 08:36 AM
3

I don't. If there's an awkward silence I just smile and if they say "what? What!" I know they're turned on, shift with "nothing. Anyway blah blah blah." If they day nothing and stare back, isolate. If they leave they were never interested so thank fuck. Your job as the man isn't to keep every girl you talk to entertained; it's to find the girls whom you are compatible with. Awkward silences are a good way to screen for that.
/r/seduction08/04/16 08:34 AM
1

It's one factor. A far more important factor is self awareness. If you're not self aware coming from a dream like billionaire family will still not set you up. If you're self aware you can learn the lessons you need to from a poor family environment and make up the rest you need to get where you want to go.
/r/seduction08/04/16 08:31 AM
1

"Dude stop being such a dick." "No one likes you when you act like this dude." "You know that sounded like kind of a dick comment, but I know you wouldn't try to be confrontational with me, so how about you explain how that wasn't a douchey thing to say?"
/r/seduction08/04/16 12:42 AM
1

Just say hey what up hello, you wanna meet my stove? Or anything. Strong eye contact and open body language matters more.
/r/seduction06/03/16 12:56 PM
1

It sounds like you were just jumping up on girls like a rabbit with ADHD. Approach very calm and slow. Think sultry not exciting. Honestly sometimes I approach a girl for 10sec+
/r/seduction06/03/16 12:54 PM
2

Constantly be improving. Approach at least 50 girls a week. With sexual intent and follow through. Escalation beats attraction, sexual tension trumps game and logistics are the Jack. You'll lay about a girl a week on average that way. This is my first year gunning for volume and I'm averaging a girl a week so far. Logistics have been shooting me down a fair bit (four lays in public, many more missed because they wouldn't) so for that and other reasons I'm moving into the city near all the nightl…
/r/seduction06/03/16 09:12 AM
1

Lol yeah dude totally. If you're coming from a place where you think a well delivered overtly confident physical move is going to get rejected more than 1/10 times you're coming from a place where you won't be able to use it. Thus my game is useless for you until you overcome enough limiting beliefs and develop enough reference experiences Also dlving in this situation depends on how you react to it. If you play it off as banter and go hi five some dudes then everyone is going to assume you're m…
/r/seduction04/03/16 09:36 AM
1

Escalate and isolate. Once you lock a girl in the friends will ask her permission before dragging her off. As in subtly with eye code.
/r/seduction04/03/16 08:11 AM
1

Doesn't matter man. Just make fun of it. Act like they tried to drag you around or something. If in doubt and tou have friends there, turn back to your friends and laugh and give thumbs up. If you're solo just make fun of it some other way. Turn to the nearest girl who isn't her friend and do the exact same thing, throw your hands in the air and fske cry idk just make fun of it.
/r/seduction04/03/16 08:08 AM
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Yeah but if he does sounds like a pussy.
/r/seduction04/03/16 08:03 AM
2

Doesn't matter. Just talk to lots of people and be a genuinely fun guy. If I see a girl I like on the dance floor I hold a hand out to them and if they grab it I just walk off with them. Fairly good success rate.
/r/seduction04/03/16 08:02 AM
2

After walking around a bit I decided to actually use my voice, which is really hard if you’re not outgoing at all. It's just hard if you're not used to it. Practice makes perfect. I said “Hi” or “How’s it going” to a few girls, they all responded but some seemed uncomfortable since talking to strangers isn’t the norm over here. It isn't the norm anywhere bro. Some girls will always seem uncomfortable. If it's more than day 2-3 out of ten, something is wrong with the approach. Mostly it'd be eith…
/r/seduction04/03/16 03:28 AM
1

Lol gotta try that
/r/seduction03/03/16 11:45 PM
1

Anything greater than 1:1, with the greatest being around 2:1. If you have >2:1 girls it drops off really quickly and it becomes hard to isolate girls because they feel judged, although every guy will get like 1000 numbers.
/r/seduction03/03/16 12:38 PM
1

You should have held your ground. However it is a lot easier to manage expectations and sleep with multiple women when you never use the word date until very late game. Even ribbing them for using that word can be useful.
/r/seduction03/03/16 08:59 AM
0

Yeah one I dated for a few years, a few I fucked and two who cheated on their boyfriends with me later.
/r/seduction03/03/16 08:57 AM
1

For the normal ones I agree. From the ones I got with the celeb profile, most seemed to see it as a joke. Pretty much none of them responded to my messages and those who did fizzled out. 0 numbers from 40 matches is awful in anyones book.
/r/seduction03/03/16 08:56 AM
1

I thought this sounded good in theory, trust me I had exactly the same idea. I became a literal tinder celebrity in fact, with Facebook posts about me and all. Basically I just pimped my profile so all my shots were me looking like a douchebag acting a role (ie pirate, doctor) with hot girls in the photo loving it, then a stupid caption like "sexy doctor". One of the photos showed off my rig, another one was a good face shot with a girls boobs in the background, another one had me dressed very w…
/r/seduction03/03/16 03:48 AM
1

Ignore her.
/r/seduction03/03/16 02:55 AM
2

Yeah this girl I'm banging is mad hot and only has one photo up, her description is "Finnish living in Australia" and if I liked ANYONE it matched straight up. They would usually message within a few minutes too. 8/10 guys on Tinder open with "hey :)" or some variation. 1/10 open with a shitty joke and 1/10 open with literally anything else. Go for literally anything else.
/r/seduction03/03/16 02:54 AM
1

What you're saying is just max out your tangibles so you can play the numbers game with a better success range. Yes that's true but saying you'll be the girls best option ignores the fact that not all girls are the same and even if they respond in person to very similar things, online it's more their logical tastes than their biological. For example, a girl might say she only likes arty guys. In person she fucks jacked guys with big dicks. Then she sees them on tinder and they're idiot meat head…
/r/seduction03/03/16 02:52 AM
1

Following the normal blueprint you outlined here, college/uni undergrad. With all options on the table, when celebrity status is achieved regardless of age. Honourable mention to not getting a real job and working in a hostel, on a yacht, as a tour guide, etc.
/r/seduction02/03/16 01:59 AM
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This reads like bullshit. Also no shit, the ugliest girls on tinder still have enough options to dismiss most dudes. You're playing the numbers game in its rawest form, hoping to be the most attractive guy she is messaging at the exact time she is horny.
/r/seduction02/03/16 01:54 AM
2

Don't approach just open. Trust me there will be plenty of fresh pussy to satiate you if you get to class a few minutes early every day. Then you introduce yourself on the way in if it's going well, sit with them, bang instant bounce and an hour or more of comfort. Also no risk of being 'that guy' (very real)
/r/seduction01/03/16 12:13 PM
1

By the time you're good enough to warrant getting a coach; you'll know which coach to get and if it's worth it. See the thing is if you're too novice to be able to spot someone with good game and style that's complimentary to yours then you're novice enough that the 'coaching' would be mainly just pushing you into sets. I bet you could just buy your mate a few beers and he'd do the same thing for a full night.
/r/seduction01/03/16 12:08 PM
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Thank you for that post. It resonates with me. It encapsulates the loser mindset perfectly. Someone better than me= no point trying. Someone better than me but I've listened to lovey dovey bs no successful people say but lots of losers on the Internet do= oh best not compare myself Winners mindset= I want to be the best. The best I can reach now is XXX. The best overall is ZXY. I will conpare myself to them as a yardstick then beat them. Your use of justification in the form of the talent myth f…
/r/seduction01/03/16 05:17 AM
1

This is IMO the easiest daygame pickup. Cute girl in store, there is a reason you can only chat for minute, you walk off while she watches you go ie you hold the value. Also often she will open you which raises your value too. Just talk about anything, joke a little, then say "Hey what time do you finish? Cool, you wanna grab a drink when you're done?" If they say yes say "write your number on my receipt" and tell them you'll call them at the end of their shift. Such a low flake rate. Also take …
/r/seduction01/03/16 12:29 AM
1

Shit happens bro. Always remember girls are far better judges of chemistry and if she thinks you're wrong for each other she is probably correct. Take it as a blessing because shit would not have worked out.
/r/seduction01/03/16 12:25 AM
1

The dream part is completely irrelevant unless you want me to tell you it's symbolism for you missing opportunities with girls. That's all that happened. You missed the first opportunity you should have taken and built negative momentum. Don't think, take the first shot every time.
/r/seduction01/03/16 12:22 AM
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I'd ask her why. I've had the same thing and it turned out sex just hurt the girl. In that case take her to the doctor. If her answer is vague and emotional then say something like "for me sex is a big deal, it shows we're committed to each other and it makes our natural feelings grow." She's either going to tell you the real reason or say something like "omg why can't you just wait?" In the second case dump her then and there. She's either playing games or has way too much baggage to be worth w…
/r/seduction29/02/16 11:11 PM
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Fuck I'm sick of parrots regurgitating the same bullshit advice. I could use myself as an example of why you're wrong, but I won't. I'll use Kanye West. Is he not at the top of the rap game? What about Rafael Nadal. Last I heard he was tennising pretty well. Oh but I guess other successful people, like nearly all of them, don't compare themselves to ithers right? Because some feel good 'life coach' who made his millions uhh life coaching says so? Another myth you probably believe: successful peo…
/r/seduction29/02/16 11:07 PM
1

Parties are usually better with some wild cards. The vast majority of girls will hook up with a stranger over a new guy, which means the guys will have an easier time too because they're the new guys to the new girls. IME only a few guys know enough girls. Although they always get the picture and the girls are hot. Player guys and popular kids are the go to ask.
/r/seduction29/02/16 10:57 PM
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First of all your ratio is going to be whack. Guys who say they come will 9/10 times, girls who say they will have a 1/2 chance of actually showing up. No it doesn't matter how well you know them, how popular you are or who the girl is. I've thrown a lot of parties and the rule we ended up coming up with was invite three girls to every guy. That generally turns out a ratio around 1.5:1-2:1. I would recommend asking the girls you personally invited if they have any friends they'd like to bring, s…
/r/seduction29/02/16 04:03 AM
1

If you want to be heavy physical with your game, first of all power to you, because it's probably the hardest part for most beginners. Secondly you need to learn the most important rule of being physical: Rinse repeat. If you pull a girl in and she is initially responding well, then pulls back, let her go. Rest on it for 2-5 minutes just talking normally, then try again. I open with heavy kino but have found opening by pulling girls in the way you describe only gets me lays on very, very down gi…
/r/seduction29/02/16 03:37 AM
1

Go out to do something other than daygame and just open pretty girls you see and close cashiers and shit. Super easy. You also keep momentum because you're doing other stuff.
/r/seduction27/02/16 11:18 AM
2

It's super super easy man. You just escalate physically on every girl you're attracted to, within the first 10 seconds. If they get uncomfortable you stop, then talk some more and try again in a few minutes. If they're still uncomfortable you say "Nice meeting you!" smile and leave. Then you go talk to another girl. You never need to break rapport. It doesn't 'build attraction' it just motivates girls who are very, very attracted to you to chase you. A lot of girls that are attracted enough to f…
/r/seduction27/02/16 11:17 AM
2

Night game. You get A LOT more approaches down a lot faster and can improve at a much greater rate. However, IMO it takes more balls to approach in day game so it is worth mixing it up. I'd say go out ~3-4 nights a week (even if it's just for an hour) and do at least X number of daygame approaches a week, ie three, just while you go about your life. EDIT: In your case, specifically gunning for the lay, the easiest time is when the girls are out drunk to meet people. A fair % are drunk looking to…
/r/seduction27/02/16 09:50 AM
0

What the fuck is with your posts. It seems like your order of shit seems to be Market the fuck out of myself Gimmicky bullshit Redundant advice which I rip off other sources (note: no unique viewpoint from personal experience) Add value? Or sell product Seriously what the fuck, stop trying to sell us shit and actually add value to the community. THE ONLY players I've bought anything from are Krauser, 60 and GLL. Why? Because they ADD FUCKING VALUE to the point where I know their advice is good. …
/r/seduction27/02/16 09:48 AM
3

You're probably over gaming. Stop trying so hard to be a player, impress her or make her attracted. Just relax and listen to her, then work with that.
/r/seduction27/02/16 09:44 AM
4

Yeah I agree with D King. This whole post is mental masturbation and bullshit. YOU NEED A FUCKING LOT OF VALIDATION. Honestly, do you know how you get really, really good with girls? Here it goes THE FUCKING SECRET: Get a LOT OF REJECTION. GET A SHIT TONNE OF VALIDATION. This includes smiles, hugs, text messages, makeouts, etc. Fuck a lot of girls. That's it. The secret revealed!
/r/seduction27/02/16 09:40 AM
1

Good points. I honestly couldn't see how one would fake these types of images but honestly haven't had female friends in two years or so... that I'm not fucking anyway. So I admit my view could be skewed.
/r/seduction26/02/16 10:43 AM
2

Damn that vid was sweet as. This is what I wanna see more of on here; bad ass original ideas. How are you opening? Which festivals did you hit up? At 2:15 what is that blonde chick looking at?
/r/seduction26/02/16 12:20 AM
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It is a very, very powerful technique to bond and to reveal vulnerabilities which can temper your alpha persona and stop you swinging too far into the "alpha but unattainable" box. However you can only use it ONCE every few times you meet up with a girl and it has to be in context. Otherwise you're just a whiny chode. She won't 'remember it and use it against you'... how does that even happen seriously?
/r/seduction26/02/16 12:14 AM
20

Those evil women! Why don't we just kill 'em all and butt sex each other?
/r/seduction26/02/16 12:12 AM
1

Lol I'm not a mod dude, I wouldn't be involved in the verification process. Also you use sarcasm wrong.You haven't actually rebutted any of my points except "this can't be faked" which I counter-argued and ostensibly won because you then proceed to switch to sarcasm. I did use humour in my post, but notice how it still addresses and dismisses the issues you raised? The fact that you can't intelligently debate this topic is to me an indicator you either a) don't understand it or b) have an ulteri…
/r/seduction26/02/16 12:11 AM
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When you have a community where >80% of the community is new and inexperienced, heads filled with their old chode ideas and these new theories, they tend to become dogmatic and narrow minded in their view. Then they build a community within the community; then they downvote en masse anything that contradicts the 'right' way to do a pickup. I remember in the sosuave forums I wrote about how I used the 'strawberry fields' routine with a girl and fucked her, they they proceeded to flame the shit ou…
/r/seduction26/02/16 12:07 AM
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Lol mad good attitude bro. "I don't care that the guy who gets laid all the time said to do it this way, I don't get laid very often and MY GET says that this guy who lives in his mums basement is giving me the best advice!"
/r/seduction25/02/16 12:37 PM
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50/50 with calling online girls, I never use Tinder/OKC etc so I wouldn't know at all. Ask someone else. However, every second day is way too available, text girls maybe twice a week MAX even if a date is set up.
/r/seduction25/02/16 12:36 PM
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"Hey sis would you pose in my room, wearing my clothes, while I sit naked behind you? WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU'RE TELLING MUM?!?!?" "Hey Tara, instead of the movies Friday, how about you get naked, wear one of my shirts and then I'll take photos of you on my bed?" "Hey girls, do you want to come to my place and get naked then pose next to a wet stain on my bed? Yeah by pose I mean pretend you don't want to be in the photo so jump out of frame at the last minute." I have no idea how you have these ki…
/r/seduction25/02/16 12:32 PM
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The tip to keep her close it to message her less so she can fantasize about you and not get bored. Moving dates is best done with a call. What are yku up tk this Sunday you say. Then go from there.
/r/seduction25/02/16 10:42 AM
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To clarify: I've only done this exact street stop ~8 times. I've done of the LDM style 120 times since November/December and am preemptively posting this because I instinctively feel it is working better for me. Ive also done at least 1k daygame opens total before this in other styles so this is based on experience.
/r/seduction25/02/16 07:20 AM
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No but they're more likely to be right with more experience, thus their opinion should be weighted.
/r/seduction25/02/16 07:17 AM
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This more or less needs to happen IMO. I've been around for a loooooooong time and can tell you that the only forum s with any longevity had some type of 'endorsement' system going. The issue is that without it an idea tends to take hold, all the newbies latch onto it and suddenly anyone who goes against it is flames because they're not 'right'. Fastseduction got fucked up when kissless virgins got obsessed with GWM, sosuave died when 'natural game' became the rage... and it's already happening …
/r/seduction25/02/16 07:16 AM
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I recommend getting some cialis. It has very, very few side effects and will guarantee you a good erection for 40 odd hours regardless of nerves/alcohol. It's safe and cheap, just don't drink too much on it. Also get generic othwrwise its like $80 a pill.
/r/seduction25/02/16 07:03 AM
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Yes. If it's mentally feeling shit go out and build that will power. It makes the good nights even better. However I've learned this the hard way: if you're sick stsy at fucking home. Even a throat tickle. A long, sleepless night damns it all to hell. Better miss one night of game than one week of life.
/r/seduction25/02/16 07:00 AM
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Say you've written a new song but it's really different and you're not even sure if its good. Ask her if she'd listen to it and BE HONEST and tell you if it's good or not. Invite her to your house and play the song, make it something sexual, then fuck her. Important : just invite her to your house.
/r/seduction25/02/16 06:58 AM
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Sometimes I love doing these, sometimes I hate them. I'm 25, in medical school and fairly attractive. I don't have issues getting girls, but I wouldn't say I'm a Don Juan either. I've had about 12-15 one night stands, and 2 long term relationships, so lack of experience is not the issue here (just to set the frame). You're inexperienced. This whole post is a normal thing which occurs every 20 or so girls, but you're inexperienced so you've only had it once. I met this girl in school back in Octo…
/r/seduction25/02/16 03:46 AM
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I found Dutch girls to be very, very forward ie saying things like "I find you attractive but because of your age, it would only be a one time thing." The tourist population would make cold approaching an absolute breeze. Get to know a few cool local bars+coffee shops near your place (to bounce girls to) and it will be so goddamn easy for you. Also I read somewhere in a normal year there are 10-20 times more tourists than citizens passing though Amsterdamn. Wow. Plus its a YOLO tourist spot so..…
/r/seduction25/02/16 01:45 AM
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I would just start behaving differently with the girl I'm attracted to that is in my social circle. I would build attraction, with time touch her more often (kino), and start making conversations more sexual. That's what girls call "getting creepy." You can't change your behaviours towards just one person and expect it to go well...
/r/seduction24/02/16 11:58 PM
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When these things happen I almost instantly realize it and regret it. I can't come up with specifics but these are just your typical 'no-no' moves like bragging about myself or trying to impress. This is how you go wrong. You catch yourself doing something 'bad' and like a kid with its hand in the cookie jar you recoil, embarrassed and ashamed. girls sense this and think 'lame ass' because you're trying so hard to impress them you try hard to impress them, then realize it isn't work and try even…
/r/seduction24/02/16 11:45 PM
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The thing is that where I live it is mostly the way that you meet girls at clubs and then you text them and at some point ask if they wanna come over - just to talk (maybe make out). Hey special snowflake! Welcome to 100% of the Western World! With us today is you and everyone else! Now you refer to this as 'normal' while we refer to this here as 'chodey' or 'beta' or 'nice guy' or 'wimp who doesn't get laid' behaviour. There aren't a lot of dates happening before the relationship... That's call…
/r/seduction24/02/16 11:37 PM
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I am 18 yo and live in Germany Your country has become the most beta Western country in the world. You want to be the exact opposite; an almost ridiculous caricature of an alpha. We have a lot of Germans come and work here over summer and the girls end up getting pumped and dumped by like 10 dudes, but I have yet to see a German guy pull. I hang out with them a lot FYI. This isn't to say "German guys can't pull" or be racist or some BS, I'm just pointing out there is very limited effective compe…
/r/seduction24/02/16 11:34 PM
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Yes it is worth approaching these girls. You don't know why she didn't stare at you. For all you know she was so attracted to you she got shy and embarrassed she'd even looked.
/r/seduction24/02/16 11:29 PM
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Was just about to quote that. YOU CANNOT BUILD ATTRACTION. Full stop. That is that. No more on the matter. You can however amplify attraction, assuming the girl is at least somewhat attracted to you to begin with. If you're above-average looks and attire, that will work. Otherwise you need to dress better and open stronger. Confidence is sexy.
/r/seduction24/02/16 11:27 PM
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Yeah bro because tanking his testosterone will make him feel real energetic... or is the word desperate? yeah actually it's desperate and anxious you were looking for.
/r/seduction24/02/16 11:25 PM
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What techniques do you lower-energy guys have to get your energy up to the fun, happy levels needed for nightgame? None. You don't need to get your energy up. You can either be high energy, or high intensity. If you come in to a group of screaming, laughing girls with a smirk and laser eyes still as a rock and then just slowly raise your hand to the target, that comes off as 100x more confident than coming in laughing and dancing like a monkey boy for any group of girls, high energy or no. You d…
/r/seduction24/02/16 11:24 PM
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The fact you get so sad about someone disagreeing with you online indicates it is the major portion of your life. Switch the screen off and go experience the real thing kiddo.
/r/seduction24/02/16 10:05 AM
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Lol dude there isn't any magic or advanced tomfoolery. SNLs are easy as fuck. You just have good logistics/a good sex location nearby, look good, smell good and approach girls with very heavy physical screening. As in, touching on the open, hand/arm/waist holding within 2 min, going for the kiss/isolation within 5-30 etc. I'd say in order these are the most important things 1) be able to tell if a girl is dtf. This means responsive vs flirty, three tries then leaving, et 1b) if you are alone and…
/r/seduction24/02/16 08:12 AM
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Yeah, better do something you don't like and probably hurt her more after seeing her. Better give her the chance to have hopes and then take it away. Lol stop being so dramatic Robert Frost. I can tell by your tone you've never actually done this. I did it two weekends ago. She said "thats cool, I'm glad you said that, if anything were to happen I'd want it to develop out of a friendship anyway." Better spend your precious time with the woman you don't want to be with, you don't know at all. 'Yo…
/r/seduction24/02/16 07:58 AM
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This is such a fucking good idea. Actually both your ideas are. But this one in particular solves the biggest issue on the boards. Kudos man kudos seriously repost this as its own thread/suggest to mods. I bet half the fuckers posting links to pua sites won't. Fucking keyboard Jockey wannabe Tim Ferris bitches.
/r/seduction24/02/16 04:11 AM
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How to win friends and influence people. In short, get them to talk and genuinely engage with listening and asking questions.
/r/seduction24/02/16 04:07 AM
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This is true. Most guys go for the hottest girls and older women stop entering that radar. If you can't fo ONS the easiest way is to start hitting on girls past their prime. They often even help you with logistics. Plus they'll be direct and honest ie "I want to fuck you but X" or "I'm not interested but my friend might be."
/r/seduction24/02/16 04:01 AM
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Fuck you're lame dude. I wouldn't give a shit about your long, erroneous post if it wasn't for the advertising in it. Fuck off and go get some experience.
/r/seduction24/02/16 03:59 AM
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Every answer so far has been close to bullshit. The only "game" thing that matters is not playing games. Do you know what they want from younger boys? They want a toy. Nothing else matters. Just have a good body and be nice to look at an older woman looking for a lay will throw themselves at you. I had a five minute pull this weekend with a MILF because of this. I was standing around talking to a friend and she was staring at me. I asked her if she wanted to come home with me after five minutes …
/r/seduction24/02/16 03:58 AM
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Yep friendzone the chick, build a social circle. Vs cancel on the chick, destroy social circle... mm tough call.
/r/seduction24/02/16 03:51 AM
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Oh Jesus kid don't listen to the seddit radical honesty alphas. These idiots don't understand social courtesy because they haven't left their house. Just go and friendzone the chick.
/r/seduction24/02/16 03:50 AM
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Yeah it's good as long as you say it as a joke. A better one would be "...but you looked so interesting I couldn't help it." That is more flattering and will more likely lead to qualifying EDIT: Had to go save a girl, back to add a little bit. You shouldn't ever need to write "Frame is I am alpha and I am the prize." That's a given. All interaction should come from that place, because it should be true.
/r/seduction23/02/16 10:47 AM
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Thank you for writing this article because it displays the exact err in attitude that plagues this community in regards to dating. Dates aren't a fucking audition. You're not trying to get the second date. You're trying to fuck her that day and/or deciding whether or not she is worth a future time investment. Otherwise your blog looks really good. Very good graphic design, possibly the best I've seen. It looks like you have some good articles up too although a fair portion of the content is a di…
/r/seduction23/02/16 02:11 AM
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Waited to long.
/r/seduction23/02/16 01:06 AM
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Playing games. Ask her out in person.
/r/seduction22/02/16 07:21 AM
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That doesn't side like confidence at all. Sounds more like the extreme of non-reactive. Except it's an act, as you're tense and thus obviously care. Try smiling and putting yourself out there a bit.
/r/seduction20/02/16 12:21 PM
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Try it out
/r/seduction20/02/16 07:35 AM
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I've done it too and had it work. But yeah, I'm a big dangerous looking guy. I know it works because they aren't willing to risk actually offending me, at risk of an alteration.
/r/seduction20/02/16 02:34 AM
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You need to have a signal with your wings or just tell them before the introduction. They shouldn't have to ask, you should tell or signal. I had the worst wing once, friend of a friend and a shitty pua, who asked loudly in front of the girls "which one do you want?" They left.
/r/seduction19/02/16 10:44 AM
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Her boyfriend. Won't be hard to pull her should I see her again without him. I don't think many girls will actually leave their boyfriend to go with a guy.
/r/seduction19/02/16 09:03 AM
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Two quick points: over gaming is more of a problem than under gaming, always err on the side of less game. The sexual guy beats the funny guy with any girl down to get fucked. Last night I just stood there while a guy gamed this girl hardcore. Solid entertainer game, had her rapt on every word. I just stared at her with a smirk and paid him no mind. After five minutes she latched onto me and said "why are you staring at me! You look like a robot!" (Classic shit test ) to which I responded "I fin…
/r/seduction19/02/16 07:26 AM
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You have to be alone with her. Most the time that means random chance putting you in the same place as her. Sometimes that means messaging her to meet up but that's far harder.
/r/seduction19/02/16 05:44 AM
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Cool bro. Honestly I don't see cheating as any more morally questionable than masturbating or taking a shit. Sure, might not be the cleanest thing in the world, but it's a natural need. No she wouldn't have cheated unless it was me so your attempted moral high ground is useless. I also don't find natural animalistic urges morally detestable simply because society tells me they are. I think the instinctively disgusting perversions are fucked (pedophiloa, necrophilia, bestiality etc) but that the …
/r/seduction19/02/16 05:18 AM
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Happened in HS once, was really cute.
/r/seduction19/02/16 02:57 AM
1

"What's up?" "Where you headed?"
/r/seduction19/02/16 02:57 AM
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Three options: 1) The classic agree and amplify. "I'm just looking for the right girl to take my virginity." Then ignore him and AA with the girls "you guys know how most girls are, just wanting sex... I want a classic romance, with flowers and serenades." Smirk. Easiest but least awesome. 2) Classic misinterpret. "Bro, I get what you're saying but... you're just not my type." then anything he says just ramp off that until he gets annoyed/shuts up and pat his back and go "haha I'm just messing m…
/r/seduction19/02/16 02:56 AM
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Yeah bro that will go super well.
/r/seduction19/02/16 02:46 AM
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I've figured out that I'm not a huge fan of the whole one night hooking up stuff. You can use night game to number farm and set up dates later. Boring but why not? Or you can have a ONS, fuck her good and grab her number to hang out later. Daygame is your other option. Don't whinge about feeling weird we all do at first. Most girls enjoy the approach however.
/r/seduction19/02/16 02:45 AM
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1) I'm very experienced; thus there is a high likelihood my evaluation of the situation was accurate. 2) She stroked my dick as she said it. She likely just said it to save face in front of her friends; when you've had some more experience you'll realize girls actions>>>>>>>>>girls words.
/r/seduction19/02/16 02:40 AM
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lol my GF didn't think sensitive arty types were alpha. Stop trying to change reality to match your theory. Chicks with alpha dudes, should they actually cheat (rare) cheat because they feel neglected and to get something they don't get. My ex literally went for needy, emotional dudes because girls like that occasionally. They want to have that hyper-effect on a guy, where she feels her sexual power. There was no way she'd do that in the same city I'm in because I"m fulfilling 99% of her urges. …
/r/TheRedPill19/02/16 02:38 AM
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In this specific case you can. However most hot 18-25 year old girls have roommates and/or live with their parents. You still can sometimes but they aren't usually comfortable with it until you've already fucked a few times. Music and alcohol definitely help. If you really wanted to you could try to fuck all your dates in bathrooms and carparks but it's needlessly hamstringing yourself.
/r/seduction18/02/16 12:05 PM
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Fucking the girl>instadate
/r/seduction18/02/16 10:34 AM
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Go nuts not weird at all.
/r/seduction18/02/16 10:32 AM
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Start with something basic and fundamental like 60 years of challenge, then move onto more advanced bandaid stuff if you need to. Or rather still want to. Stick ro whatever you choose first for at least six dedicated months and aim to get at least 20 approaches a week from month three on. 10 a week until then.
/r/seduction18/02/16 10:31 AM
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You can't help people learn something until you're proficient yourself. Save your mission until you're an expert then reevaluate to see if you really want to do it. Having said that cool topic. My biggest fucking issue forever has been putting my balls on the line for the lay. I'll get s girl super hot and horny then leave and man I hate that. Just last night I was hooking up with a girl who has a boyfriend but she was soooooo into it. Her friend ended up trying to cockblock me but I grabbed her…
/r/seduction18/02/16 10:29 AM
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You control 95%+ of the logistics at your place. You know the music, movies, drinks etc. You know the obstacles. You know the setup. You have spare condoms, lube, maybe some sex toys. At her place you have no idea what's up. Also to the virgin who commented "she'll feel more comfortable at her house" that's so untrue. In my experience girls prefer to be at your house so they can leave if they need to. They don't like having men they don't know that well at their place. Plus chicks are shit at le…
/r/seduction18/02/16 10:24 AM
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All in all this was the one time where everything just fell into place and all I had to do was NOT fuck it up. As you get better and better, more of your game becomes this. It's just build the initial attraction, usually with a strong open, then milk that and amp sexual tension. A lot of 'game' is just crutches men use to hide their lack of confidence; once you have the balls you realize all of it can simply be replaced with sincerity. There is a comment "you did a lot right!" Which is true, you…
/r/seduction18/02/16 10:20 AM
0

Yup. Show me a happy MGTOW.
/r/TheRedPill18/02/16 04:56 AM
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If you're an absolute beginner, go out of your way to approach, you need more experience. Once you're decent and have pulled a few girls from the street you'll realize that 1-3 daygame approaches that are 'natural' are betting than 3-4 HOURS of daygaming dedicated. Opening is just the numbers game component and once your decent at opening the only drastic difference you can make to your ratios is to open under better circumstances.
/r/seduction18/02/16 03:44 AM
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If a woman wants to cheat on you, she will, and there is NOTHING you can do about it. NOTHING. It doesn't matter how alpha you are, or more accurately, think you are, she'll find someone who is more alpha Having actually been in an open relationship, as long as I was around (ie same country) she didn't sleep with anyone else. She also got hurt everytime I did, but accepted it without 'retaliating' because communication. When she did (while travelling) they were all sensitive artsy types who were…
/r/TheRedPill18/02/16 03:37 AM
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"Dude chill this isn't about you." and to her "Not into this petty drama bullshit." Then refuse to ever talk about it again ever, also cut your trust with blabbermouth to zero and learn the lesson: discretion is king.
/r/seduction17/02/16 10:39 AM
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Seems over the top specific, like you just needed to vent. Doesn't really help anyone but you.
/r/seduction17/02/16 09:23 AM
1

Actually google that. I'm not going to argue the point to you because you just won't believe me but Forbes, the economist and every economist who has ever written about that topic has shown it to be untrue.
/r/seduction17/02/16 08:31 AM
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Either approach groups or open girls or groups. Don't approach solo girls at school. If you're waiting for class, strike up conversation with anyone in your area. If you're at lunch, go sit with a new group. But don't walk around looking for girls to approach. This is how you avoid being "that guy" that gets talked about on here.
/r/seduction17/02/16 04:22 AM
1

Yeah I used to just get in the line to clubs and pull from there. Less fun but decent success rate. Or go to clubs at closing tine and ask them if they want to grab a drink at yours.
/r/seduction17/02/16 04:21 AM
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On your way to and from activities. Natural approaches have far better efficiency than dedicating time to it. Assuming good skills.
/r/seduction17/02/16 04:19 AM
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Talk to them. Escalate. Enjoy.
/r/seduction17/02/16 04:17 AM
2

No it doesn't. The chooser of times is the dominant position, not the one throwing options to the wind and saying "please decide for me!'
/r/seduction17/02/16 04:16 AM
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No dude this is his fault. If his girl wants to cuck him it's her saying "you don't dominate me enough." If she had just cheated on him it might be due to lack of attention or just being a crazy bitch but the fact she brought it up is testament she actually wanted the relationship to work bit required him to be more of a man. You can say "but that's too far! What a bitchy thing to say!" But the truth is women are a baptism in fire; like all others the more challenging the more growth. No one her…
/r/TheRedPill17/02/16 04:02 AM
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No I'm saying when a girl asks you, you say whatever the truth happens to be. Ie "I'm interested in you despite your age, mature vibe." Or "just got out of a serious relationship, looking for someone more playful." If the girl is interested and available she will qualify off that as opposed to the little laugh AA or misinterpret will get you. I'm now more for rapport>attraction because attraction will build so long as sexual tension is in place. This amps rapport and sexual tension, vs just spik…
/r/seduction17/02/16 02:40 AM
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To get rid of the need for validation the two biggest things are to get enough of it and to evaluate your goals. In that order. Until you've had a lot of hot girls really 'like' you, you will be too scared to pull triggers. Plus that feeds into your confidence in its own way, showing you that you are attractive. Then over time you start to realize validation isn't satisfying and that feeds you the fuel to escalate. It also fills you with a mad rage at all the opportunities you missed by being to…
/r/seduction17/02/16 02:15 AM
1

You ask a question without any flirting or reference to her then write in an over excited tone "yeah! One of these days we should do that!" First of all her investment is way low, she said "yeah man" to a long message you sent with heaps of emojis. Not a positive response to escalate off. Second you asked her out in a really weird way, a two part message with the first part saying "thanks for replying!" And the second a ye olde turn of phrase my granddad uses. Try to seed the idea first. "Maybe …
/r/seduction17/02/16 02:01 AM
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Only steps #2 and #3 matter. I've 'gotten out' of the friendzone by never actually being there in the first place, which happens if you're doing those two things.
/r/seduction17/02/16 01:32 AM
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No don't do that. I was one of two kids who did pick up in high school at my school, I got popular and he got shunned. He used to do the simple pickup chase the girl down say hello. I preferred the 60 Years open adjacent girls. He ended up getting a reputation as a dancing clown 'player' whereas I got invited to parties and started fucking girls. The only way I'd approach is groups and I'd use a vulnerable opener like "I've always thought you guys were cool so I came to sit with you." Otherwise …
/r/seduction17/02/16 01:28 AM
1

Go read a Tinder guide.
/r/seduction17/02/16 01:25 AM
1

"I'm attracted to you." Balls trump game. Sexual tension trumps verbal mastery.
/r/seduction17/02/16 01:24 AM
2

You pseudo invited her out in a really awkward and uncalibrated way which she ignored. Don't be mad she ignored that, be glad she ignored that and is still talking to you.
/r/seduction17/02/16 01:21 AM
1

Yeah don't blame you. I'd say you can make a move yourself but if you have to it probably isn't going to be worth it anyway. Best to just invest elsewhere.
/r/seduction17/02/16 01:17 AM
1

Yeah the best bet would be to fizzle out. Honestly if he isn't that into you you're probably not his type. The other possibility is he thinks you're too hot for him and is thus much too intimidated to make a move.
/r/seduction17/02/16 12:09 AM
1

Which part?
/r/seduction17/02/16 12:05 AM
1

Google.
/r/seduction17/02/16 12:05 AM
1

100% the truth. "I'm not normally into younger girls but I'm attracted to you and you gave me a mature vibe."
/r/seduction17/02/16 12:04 AM
1

"When are you free this week?" "Do you prefer amoothie or coffee?" Then time activity and place
/r/seduction17/02/16 12:03 AM
1

Just close the deal bro she's super into you.
/r/seduction16/02/16 09:55 AM
0

Doesn't matter likely shit test. Either agree and amplify, misinterpret or my new favorite: brutally fuck with honesty.
/r/seduction16/02/16 09:54 AM
1

Drinking culture is p much every uni dude. Just be a good guy and make friends with everyone. Don't try hard to fit in, just hit people up, ask questions, joke around. Two great things are to be the bridge from guys to girls which will give you value with both and get you invited out. The second is to organize the catchups outside of uni. Then you're the leader.
/r/seduction16/02/16 09:51 AM
1

Project Hollywood was real life bro. Join your local frat/lair, there seems to be one in most major cities.
/r/seduction16/02/16 09:46 AM
1

Don't ask for the number ask for the meetup. Try to be as low key as possible and just listen to her talk. People have a weird quirk where they think they know and connect best with the person who knows them best.
/r/seduction16/02/16 06:47 AM
4

Wanting to get laid>game.
/r/seduction16/02/16 06:44 AM
1

He's afraid to pull the trigger and you aren't his first pick girl.
/r/seduction16/02/16 06:44 AM
1

Yep. I have countless stories like this. Girls usually see it as a good thing you had the balls to try, unless you do it in a creepy way. Which means overly aggressive (violent), using an excuse (ie I'll help you move house) or blackmail or something like that... not being an attractive man and trying.
/r/seduction16/02/16 02:17 AM
1

'long con.' You can't con someone who has 6x more social intelligence than you. You're describing it as sliding into the friendzone then gaming back out like a snake. That won't ever work. Even though I'm going to tell you, you're not at the level this will work for you. If you were you wouldn't ask. Essentially you need to actually friendzone her, then just be the same flirty, fun and sexual guy you always are around everyone. Naturally some moments of sexual tension will build up. You make sur…
/r/seduction16/02/16 02:14 AM
3

an 8 training like a beast next to me. No one trains like a beast hoping to get interrupted.
/r/seduction16/02/16 02:06 AM
3

Just kiss them. The ballsiest move you can do and it will impress them immensely. If I miss a perfect moment I go "Stop." then kiss them.
/r/seduction16/02/16 02:04 AM
1

The title shows this won't work for you. If you're a naturally sexual guy, you can keep girls around as 'friends' for a long time without ever escalating then fucking them one day when you feel like it. You can't do it the way you're describing though.
/r/seduction16/02/16 02:00 AM
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Based on looks. Their attraction in general is like a thermostat and mens is like a lightswitch. As I said, based on looks.
/r/seduction16/02/16 01:58 AM
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Dude you seriously don't know what you're talking about. You mean America? The fucking progenitor of this technique is American you dolt. Stop looking for excuses and actually fucking improve yourself.
/r/seduction15/02/16 01:07 PM
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The way girls perceive you is about 10% visual, 10% aural, and 80% ENERGY. That's true if you're average looking. If you are below average in looks you won't get laid much. Guys attraction based on looks is like a thermostat, girls are like a lightswitch. If you're not hot enough to hit their 'yes' button you won't get them. Actually probably more like 20% looks 10% aural 70% vibe made up of everything else ie social proof, style, game, etc.
/r/seduction15/02/16 11:04 AM
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10- Turns heads universally. That girl in the room who every guy stares at, rarely approached due to seeming too perfect. 9- Turns heads but much more approachable. Type of girl you actually take out so people can see you with them. 8- Hot, gets attention. You'd be proud to walk around with her but wouldn't show her off. 7- Cute. You would fuck them at the drop of the hat but not willing to take them out or invest huge effort. At a certain point you stop seeing these girls as having long game po…
/r/seduction15/02/16 11:00 AM
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10- Turns heads universally. That girl in the room who every guy stares at, rarely approached due to seeming too perfect. 9- Turns heads but much more approachable. Type of girl you actually take out so people can see you with them. 8- Hot, gets attention. You'd be proud to walk around with her but wouldn't show her off. 7- Cute. You would fuck them at the drop of the hat but not willing to take them out or invest huge effort. At a certain point you stop seeing these girls as having long game po…
/r/seduction15/02/16 11:00 AM
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First of all ILP he did post a conclusion; secondly his conclusion didn't accurately surmise his experience. As a beginner he doesn't know what he is doing wrong. This isn't a complex issue dude; if anyone wants to get feedback they should post a good, clear and detailed description like this. If you're complaining because you can't learn anything from this then wtf are you doing reading beginner FR's? Read tips, read articles, read a book, watch some videos or read advanced reports if you're lo…
/r/seduction15/02/16 09:47 AM
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Do daygame to and from work as well as every time you go shopping. Just aim for 1-3 approaches a day and you'll be solid.
/r/seduction15/02/16 09:39 AM
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Have your eyes slightly more closed than normal and your lips a little pouty. Best way is to actually think about fucking them while you do it. Checking out their body helps.
/r/seduction15/02/16 04:24 AM
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I go out with an Arabic friend who does this dude. It's all vibe. You have to be someone who is comfortable hugging strangers and you have to subtlety pull them into the hug as opposed to hug them, so they have a chance to opt out. Blaming your ethnicity is just a self fulfilling prophecy of failure and an excuse to not improve. Do you even know what skin colour I am? Fuck no you don't. You just assumed I'm not ethnic because you can't imagine this working for an ethnic didn't you? That shows yo…
/r/seduction15/02/16 04:23 AM
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What the fuck is the point of a TL;DR on a beginner field report? It isn't going to allow him to get any feedback, nor is it going to be very interesting for us to read. "TL;DR did 8 approaches and danced with one girl." He split it up very nicely, with numbers and all. I can't help but thinking you just commented for the sake of commenting.
/r/seduction15/02/16 04:20 AM
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Yeah dude you're right. Every time I've ever gotten laid has disregarded Mystery's 7 hour rule. Sometimes I'm too busy to follow the 3 second rule too. Often times I don't use disinterested body language! Thus pickup tactics are obviously the panacea! Thanks for pointing that out bro, I thought my real life experience proved otherwise, but I'm glad a keyboard jockey came along to tell me everything I've seen in real life is a lie and girls only want me because I'm tall. Yay!
/r/seduction15/02/16 04:16 AM
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Wow dude strong attitude. Your ethnic genes would probably never let you be good at making money, not getting diseases, graduating university or indeed anything ever. Yeah you should just give up bro.
/r/seduction15/02/16 04:11 AM
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Good point, however, the social status is implied by the technique. Who would go to hug a girl straight up besides a pimp? To warm it up you can shake hands with/hug drunk dudes too. The point is, once you've hugged a few people suddenly you know everyone and nearly every girl will hug you. The worst you get for this (so long as you smile) is a weird look and a laugh, a Christian side hug or a girl scooting past you. Just laugh it off and any onlookers (including her friends) will assume it's fr…
/r/seduction15/02/16 04:09 AM
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Lol I did this in Bologna, Milan and Rome. In Bologna a girl I daygame opened actually did it to me. It seemed even more normal than anywhere else I've been. The only place I wouldn't do this is a country I wouldn't game in, like Iran or Syria.
/r/seduction15/02/16 04:06 AM
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Because it is an immensely helpful tip.
/r/seduction15/02/16 03:59 AM
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No this creates the attraction. A strong open creates all the attraction you need to fuck a girl. She won't chase you or anything but definitely enough to fuck her. Combined with the social proof this move generates...
/r/seduction14/02/16 06:47 PM
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Yes. With a smile. Also stone cold sobriety. You need to know which girls to just let past, ie the ones who try to step past. The vast majority hug you. Most girls have come out to meet new people and have fun, you're offering both.
/r/seduction14/02/16 06:44 PM
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No dude most PUA guys love dates because it's more opportunity to impress girls. I'm just against impressing girls, being audtitioned by girls (which will happen until you have REALLY good game, much better than what you need to fuck them) and wasting money going out for meals when I could cook at home. However everyone is against movies and dinners because one gives you no chance to talk and the other fucks logistics. You'll be getting her out of the mood with a known time commitment as well as…
/r/seduction14/02/16 04:46 PM
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1) meal dates before you've fucked a girl are mad awkward, it sets the interview tone. 2) Doesn't matter at all.
/r/seduction14/02/16 03:44 PM
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Yeah this is what happened. Your friend was being a cunt and the girl probably liked what you were doing. This is what you can do next time though: When you see them, walk over WITHOUT ACKNOWLEDGING HIM and put your back flat on him. Stand facing her and lightly move her so she is facing you. Talk to her in a low voice about normal things then go "do you want to grab a drink?" or literally anything to move her. She will go with you nearly every time and he will be left standing there like a tool…
/r/seduction14/02/16 03:42 PM
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I'm trying to think of what other relevant details I could include here... I suppose I was fairly drunk, that's one explanation. Being drunk makes you less attractive. Being tipsy doesn't change much, but being drunk puts you in a box and makes you do many subtle things that are unnattractive. It also reveals the 'true you' in terms of body language. For example when I'm sober I'm very, very still. When I'm drunk I have a tendency to shift foot to foot or to sit up and stand down a lot. I've wor…
/r/seduction14/02/16 03:34 PM
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The most important thing is gauging her interest. Basically the little touches are to test how receptive and interested she is in being touched by you. If she's interested it builds tension, if not she'll pull away (best to look for this early on so you can stop before it makes her uncomfortable) and you'll know she's not into you. This is 100% true and the reason I don't bother with the old game model of verbal open->stack->begin DiCarlo escalation ladder. Instead night game I do physical open …
/r/seduction14/02/16 03:16 PM
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You're welcome. regarding the cheesy line, i was rather meaning it in a funny way, rather as a joke than serious, and i dont know, i really love making such statements, i m just like talking whatever comes into my mind, its mostly funny (situational) and ppl laugh, but it also makes me look like a jerk i guess... It's funny and it isn't making you seem like a jerk. The issue is it makes you sound like you don't 'get it' when you ask for their number like that. Lots of guys with half a pair of ba…
/r/seduction14/02/16 03:10 PM
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) i dont know why girls think i m a badguy/asshole, i never insult them, talk to them openly telling them my opinion abt what i like/dislike, approve/disaprove, talking with a strong confident voice (but also a little bit too fast some times). having strong eyecontact. is making playful comments/teases bad? e.g. girl was showing me some moves and had to hopen her legs slightly, then i told her if she could repeat that and smirked, we (me and a friend) met a group of girls we ve seen from college…
/r/seduction14/02/16 10:54 AM
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The problem for me on dates is, that I can have conversations. But to pusue Kino and kiss close part is sometimes very unnatural and I can feel that both are feeling uncomfortable. I can't just get to the next, physical sexual level. Btw. I am Not a nice guy, but I respect my dates a lot. I appreciate the Old school like taking of jackets, open the doors etc. The problem is you're not making it sexual. That 'uncomfortable' feeling you describe is sexual tension. That should be present every date…
/r/seduction14/02/16 10:41 AM
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"Yes." That's it. Hold eye contact and you're done for the night. A guy with balls is far rarer than a guy who can make a little joke.
/r/seduction14/02/16 10:33 AM
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The normal way. Say "what's up?" or something similar. After conversing for several minutes say "this place is hell dead, you guys want to bounce to (cooler club/bar)?"
/r/seduction14/02/16 10:30 AM
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I really want to shed this needy mindset of looking to results (hookups, dates, signs of affection from girls) which I think is making me desperate, needy, and think to much when it comes to interactions. Firs of all that isn't a needy mindset, that's just what you want. To illustrate apply the same to gym: is it a needy mindset to want to get abs? Wanting results from a pursuit requiring time and effort is just a sign you're improving yourself. The problem is that I'll be in that more outcome i…
/r/seduction14/02/16 10:27 AM
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First of all awesome way to write your FR. All newbies should label their field reports this way, with an approach by approach breakdown, for easier analysis. When you're a beginner *every approach can teach you something. Thus it is important to do something like this. Because you did I'll breakdown the night approach by approach for you. Opened a couple of dudes asking them for cigars, even though I don't smoke. I thought it would be easier but even then I was hesitating. Doing this helped me …
/r/seduction14/02/16 10:15 AM
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you're an idiot and that makes no sense. Penile tissue isn't putty you fucking dumbass. Seriously your stupidity makes me angry. You're not rearranging spongy tissue how fucking infantile is your brain. Shut up and read greys anatomy fuck.
/r/seduction13/02/16 08:14 AM
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You're right it isn't all physical. However not only is it easier to play with her mind while you're inside her and really stretching her, it's near impossible with a face full of pussy. All else equal=PIV wins. Literally the only case oral can win is if you're bad in bed or have a small penis. If your skills are good, then penile stimulated orgasms will hands-down destroy oral. Ask any girl who has had both which is better. Or google clitoral v g spot/deep spot orgasms for girls. Good audio out…
/r/seduction13/02/16 08:12 AM
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You're completely right. If you enjoy it more power to you. My points are based on generality I should have specified. From experience; most men don't enjoy dating. Most men aren't screening the girls. Most men are doing it out of obligation to achieve transactional sex.
/r/seduction13/02/16 08:09 AM
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As a scientist I laugh in your face. Google hormetic stress and angiogenesis via shear force for the development of vascular tissue; then google mechanical tension for the elongation of collagenous and smooth muscular tissues. Then tell me why the penis, being approximately 50% of each, wouldn't respond exactly the same way every single other tissue of that type does. Side not, "or everyone else would be doing it." Yes you fucking retard, that's why everyone does game, everyone goes to the gym, …
/r/seduction13/02/16 08:08 AM
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I go out sober most the time. Being sober definitely isn't necessary though. I'd say sober builds skills more but being drunk allows you to capitalize on those learnings without second guessing yourself as you adjust to new frames of reference and states of mind.
/r/seduction13/02/16 03:12 AM
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Bigger dick=better sex for me and her. Tighter for me more stretch for her, better cumming and more erotic orgasm faces.
/r/seduction12/02/16 12:46 PM
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Having made girls cum from oral, manual, anal and vaginal PIV the latter two make the connection 100x more than rither of the first two. It's not about the orgasm it's about the method. A dominant man fuxking her to submission or a little boy licking her pussy like an icecream... mmm I wonder who will get the callback.
/r/seduction12/02/16 12:45 PM
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Google is your friend.
/r/seduction12/02/16 12:44 PM
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Zen. There are so many girls out there. Make it a part of your identity to hit on girls. When you meet a girl you meet through day or night game make a rule to not try to meet up with her until you've met anither girl you like or five ok girls you'd fuck.
/r/seduction12/02/16 12:43 PM
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Nofap is for pussies do your research.
/r/seduction12/02/16 12:14 PM
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THIS. DO THIS. I HAVE DONE PENIS ENLARGEMENT WENT FROM 14x10cm to 17x13.5cm.
/r/seduction12/02/16 12:12 PM
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Agreed. Could work but only if you accepted the friendzone and were no longer interested then fucked other girls from that frame.
/r/seduction12/02/16 10:13 AM
1

Come in with a glass of water for him and you. It adds value to both of you. Introduce yourself to both girls with hugs. Very important because it sets the right frame. He should signal the girl he is interested in by touching the other one during the introduction phase and saying something about her for you to riff off. Then you talk to her like a normal guy, create a group dynamic and go for the pull.
/r/seduction12/02/16 10:12 AM
1

Contrarianism is the fundamental tenant of game.
/r/seduction12/02/16 07:47 AM
2

Girl enjoys giving you subtle flirty signals. 2. You capitalize- great. 3. Girl shit tests you, you fail. 3. You expose her flirting. She feels like a slut for being too obvious and thus denies it. 4. You get confused because the opposite gender isn't the same. Trying to be ask girls to be straightforward is liking trying to herd cats. You get nothing but a bunch of frightened cats. Tis against their nature. You can be straightforward to her but don't ask for the same in return, it is a masculin…
/r/seduction12/02/16 05:15 AM
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Girl shit tests you. 2. You apologize then rationalize. Slash fail slash turn her off slash show you're not actually alpha. 3. When a girl says you're hitting on her friends say "wow you get jealous quick" or "you're getting kinda needy". What you did was normal for a cool guy and she knows it. She was the one being weird if you were. But you exposed yourself as not so turns out she shouldn't be attracted to you.
/r/seduction12/02/16 05:11 AM
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Yes. Despite me being very tall and sexually confident all my wings still pull. Work on the confidence though. In fact the attraction from a strong open vibe is often enough that they pull the hotter girl if they're the ones to open. Also it's only a good thing to go out with tall good looking guys. First, girls will give the whole group approach invitations. You can just hang out in one area of the bar get rowdy with each other and you'll have small groups of girls coming around the area 'accid…
/r/seduction12/02/16 03:43 AM
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Holy shit thank you for posting this. Strong alpha male imagery, no fear emblazoned across the screen, opens every set asking directions in a whiny voice. I'm not even going to get into how every girl was trying to get him to leave before the transition.
/r/seduction11/02/16 04:21 PM
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Experience and learning. Concurrently. 80/20 ratio.
/r/seduction11/02/16 09:13 AM
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I know there are lots of good reads on here, which I will be reading, I just wanted to get some direct advice considering my situation. Either you're procrastinating or you're arrogant enough to think your situation is in any way unique. Shut up, start reading and find a style that suits. I would recommend trying to buy discount books and videos with Google search and skipping the side bar. The quality is there for a lot of products and reading a big long book, while the sidebar may cover most t…
/r/seduction11/02/16 09:12 AM
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I read a really good post on this recently. Basically it happens from trying to hard to the point where your reality is eclipsed by your attempt to game. Girls see through this and are disgusted by the manipulative and beta elements of it. Basically work on your sincerity. Try some 60 years of challenge game.
/r/seduction11/02/16 09:07 AM
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If you can't think of what you could add that is unique it's probably because you lack the requisite experience to do so.
/r/seduction11/02/16 05:11 AM
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First quote I've used. 2. Solid name. 3. I said being alpha is doing what you want a few days ago. I stand by that. However after doing that for a while you learn certain things don't work ie stepping into the relationship frame before sex. 4. 3 pretty much summed it up.
/r/seduction11/02/16 05:06 AM
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"Alphas pursue hot, dirty sex, and accept that relationships could be a consequence of a successful pursuit. Betas pursue loving, affectionate relationships, and accept that sex could be a part of a successful pursuit."
/r/seduction11/02/16 02:56 AM
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I approach in college campuses. People feel safer there than in the city and you are more likely to find someone who is willing to try something new out and explore. College students are definitely not stuck in their ways. Limiting belief. I approach in both all the time. Pretty much the same success. Campus is more target rich but as an actual student it will never be my main meat. I compliment something about them. For example, a woman had stickers on her computer so I complimented the sticker…
/r/seduction10/02/16 11:36 PM
0

This is so wrong. If the friends aren't winging its because she isn't dtf, your game isn't good enough or you're not "hot" enough.
/r/seduction10/02/16 04:48 AM
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It is WAYYYYYY easier.The only thing that may be as easy is a 2 set with a wingman. Every extra person is extra chaos. Depending on the dynamics it can be ludicrous easy. 2 girls one dtf wait until late ish then ask her to come home with you. 9/10 she'll say "what about Mary?" Say we'll take her to the train/help her get a taxi. 3 or more people just exchange digits with one of them. "In case her phone dies so you can get in contact." You're just taking her to grab a drink see a view etc. If the…
/r/seduction10/02/16 04:46 AM
1

Good point. If you're not picking her up (I don't drive) send "running late let's do (15 min later)" at the same time.
/r/seduction10/02/16 01:49 AM
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Don't. Leave her excited. Her imagination is better than any texts you could send.
/r/seduction09/02/16 10:57 PM
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Make several hundred more approaches. 100 is nothing. I started off with nearly no social skills and zero sexual prospects. I approached about a thousand girls before I lost my virginity. If that sounds intimidating then you probably don't care enough. I know if someone said to me at the start "after approaching 1000 girls you will have sex with a hot one and start getting laid more an more often" I would have said "what's the catch?" That is a sweet deal. Stop being so defeatist. You have ONLY …
/r/seduction09/02/16 01:16 PM
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she was worried that she would get a ticket in the morning if she left it overnight, at this point my mindset started to shift because that's a clear hint to me that she might be DTF. This 100% means she wants to fuck you, has thought about fucking you and is planning on fucking you. I however didn't really push it because like I said, my libido was low or something, Right. Sounds like fear and then rationalizing the fear, based on everything else you wrote. so we exchanged numbers and she said …
/r/seduction09/02/16 02:08 AM
1

It is a numbers game. The "targeted approach" can be used to pick girls with better odds, but better odds don't change the fact it is a numbers game.
/r/seduction09/02/16 02:02 AM
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Another important consideration is that due to contrarian strategy approaching during the day allows you to bag hotter girls.
/r/seduction08/02/16 08:46 AM
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No
/r/seduction08/02/16 08:45 AM
1

Better but still not optimal. You want to get her availability then choose one of hers, not give her yours and make her set it up.
/r/seduction08/02/16 08:43 AM
1

I've never actually tried that specific way of texting only logistics and may give it a shot. Logistics only is the worst way to text though from experience. There is nothing wrong with referencing the date or hang out, do it or don't, it just isn't a big factor. I usually say we'll grab drinks sometime.
/r/seduction08/02/16 07:33 AM
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The reason the open ended text is bad is because girls don't lead. Putting the ball in her court sets you up for dissapointment.
/r/seduction08/02/16 07:22 AM
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No. Getting better in bed and not trying to purchase girls consent will also do you wonders.
/r/seduction08/02/16 04:10 AM
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My friends always ask me why I don't date (27M) and I don't know how to tell them I just don't want to without sounding like I'm gay or something (not that there's anything wrong with that). Mostly because I'm an above-average looking guy who has a good job and what not. People don't believe me when I say I suck at dating. It's frustrating. I believe you. How it usually goes for me is being flaked on about 80% of the time, as in, girl just stops texting me all of the sudden. Because apparently i…
/r/seduction08/02/16 04:06 AM
1

First of all not kissing a girl first date is fine. If I can't fuck the girl that night (ie another girl at my house or something) then I don't even go for the kiss. Secondly you came off as mega needy. You just showed her you have nothing going on in life. Never suggest the next day when a girl asks to reschedule, it sounds like you have nothing going on in life. You gave her an ultimatum, then pussied out. If you sent the text below you pussied out twice so you lost her. You suggested Valentin…
/r/seduction08/02/16 03:58 AM
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NO DON'T DO THAT!
/r/seduction08/02/16 03:55 AM
1

Homeless people spend most of their day sitting around doing nothing because they can't afford a TV so instead they just get cooked out of their minds. This is obvious to anyone with ocular function.
/r/seduction08/02/16 01:26 AM
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• I avoided asking boring interview style questions like "What do you do for a living?" and when she asked me this types of questions I gave her absurd or playful answers. As soon as you hit the hook point you should drop any/all game except for the odd mild flirt and just listen and escalate. Ask them questions, listen to the answer, follow up question, listen... escalating the whole time. You should also not play around with her questions because she is showing you both investment and interest…
/r/seduction08/02/16 01:22 AM
2

Actually a very good point: This is the only time that girls will see chatting online with a boy as a big investment. So long as you don't chode yourself out or come across as pushy* then you'll be fine. *"I'm doing this at this time you should come!"
/r/seduction08/02/16 01:12 AM
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ahahaha you obviously haven't done many approaches man. As long as you don't say something really fucked up, you will usually get positive responses. I've opened with "are you guys headed to that orgy later?" and that usually gets solid responses. Nightgame is 100% vibe, just being fun and leading is enough. Daygame I wouldn't start the conversation like that I would tend to be far more relaxed in my approach.
/r/seduction08/02/16 01:09 AM
0

If the woman insists on paying her half it means she isn't interested usually. However, squandering money on a girl definitely makes her less likely to fuck you. Tell her to pay half.
/r/seduction08/02/16 01:07 AM
1

Even if you're just watching someone have fun you're integral; you're the audience. You should try and participate to build the fun though.
/r/seduction08/02/16 01:06 AM
1

Maybe you are escalating too fast. Super unlikely. More likely; no isolation
/r/seduction07/02/16 04:15 PM
1

Isolate. Girls reject my kiss occasionally. New thing I've started doing is kissing their neck instead. Even if they don't I just go for their neck. Works hella well.
/r/seduction07/02/16 04:15 PM
2

Welcome to the female ovulation cycle. Escalate fast. Girls will ghost me for a month then hit me out of the blue. That means this is the time to fuck. Actually today this girl I'm fucking who decided she wanted something more serious hit me up, after flaking on me exactly 14 days ago due to period. Lol. In person though, that's just politeness. Don't ever ask her why she ghosted you it just makes you seem butthurt. Act like it never happened and she'll crack and be like "wait but I ignored him …
/r/seduction07/02/16 04:13 PM
2

Pickup lines are fine if you can be funny with it. I went through a phase where I would go onto that internet list of 101 pickup lines and just use a random new one to start a conversation. Kept it fresh. For the most part just be normal. Don't even bother telling her about her glasses, just talk. She knows why. As long as you don't talk platonically (without escalating) from the first meetup on you're fine.
/r/seduction07/02/16 04:10 PM
0

The normal way. This is literally what game is. Don't ask stupid fucking questions.
/r/seduction07/02/16 03:55 PM
1

Try to use it to build a group. When someone is "showing him love" pour it on him. Make them invest. Then try to drag girls into that vibe to become part of the group you've now created.
/r/seduction07/02/16 03:54 PM
1

So many reasons. The most important are her investment is made by the time, effort and resources she applies to your interaction. The other important one is any decent looking girl has beta orbiters buying her stuff 24/7. How many guys do you think she buys anything? Which guy do you think is plowing her?
/r/seduction07/02/16 03:53 PM
1

It can work if you find a Yes Girl (as Krauser calls them) or a down girl (as Chris calls them). It has near nothing to do with your game beyond your skill at not sounding weird when opening, not having weird posture and being relatively good looking. She is literally just looking at you and thinking "is this guy cool/hot?"
/r/seduction07/02/16 03:50 PM
1

That's because you are a beginner. The common opinion among experts is 30 girls makes you intermediate. For some reason no one here likes hearing that. I wonder why...
/r/seduction07/02/16 03:49 PM
2

Facebook.
/r/seduction07/02/16 03:39 PM
2

You'll feel needy if you feel like you're the one having fun because they're hanging out with you. If you feel like you're going to make their day fun then you won't. Either be fun, be funny or be 'interesting'. Interesting actually means a good listener.
/r/seduction07/02/16 03:39 PM
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There are probably 40 girls in each year group. Which makes 120-200 girls depending on the country. Which makes for a lot of fucking options, especially considering it's high school. Lays will never come easier than high school, not to say you can't pull harder after, it's just in high school you literally just need to be more confident than a bunch of kids, have discretion, be able to handle logistics and be a normal guy. No game required. Any game is probably overkill in fact.
/r/seduction07/02/16 03:37 PM
1

Scientific explanation. The evidence would be from testing this in field, which I have done extensively. As you said that is anecdotal. When the rest of my crew tests it, that's still anecdotal. When 100000000 people from the internet test it, that's still anecdotal. The nature of this pursuit is such that it can never be truly scientific because humans are chaos and we can't control all variables. Thus the whole community is based upon shared learning about what works most of the time for the m…
/r/seduction07/02/16 03:27 PM
1

This entire community is anecdotal evidence you fucking retard. Also kudos on ignoring the scientific explanation and hinging your entire close minded rebuttal on the singular anecdotal example.
/r/seduction07/02/16 09:44 AM
1

No why would you add the compliment. If it doesn't hook the girl add a neg joke off their attire. Red dress call her little red riding hood. Long hair rapunzes etc. SMILE
/r/seduction07/02/16 07:09 AM
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1: Yes. Especially if said guy squanders multiple opportunities to fuck her. 2: lol. Yeah if you want to date a girl before you even know how good the pussy is. 3: No. Most girls fuck one guy at a time, but as long as you're that guy he's out.
/r/seduction07/02/16 04:36 AM
2

Why would you have a wingman to approach a lone girl during the day? That's fucking weird. "Hey I'm Aeon." Be very casual and relaxed.
/r/seduction07/02/16 04:34 AM
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Get a better lip balm. Look for one without petroleum jellies or in fact any chemicals because that shit will dry your lips out and just add an oily sheen to them. Go to a health food store. Experience will make you better at this. A three hour date should be two hours out, one hour back home and fucking them... More experience will remedy both these issues.
/r/seduction07/02/16 04:16 AM
3

"I'm (name)" "NO! Less fun for you!' I used that heaps this weekend was hilarious.
/r/seduction07/02/16 04:14 AM
1

Because most hot girls won't offer an alternative time. Girls are wired not to chase. The trope "she will if she likes you" is fucking BS. I've actually fucked girls who I did this with who didn't offer an alternative time, evidence that trope is BS.
/r/seduction07/02/16 04:12 AM
1

One issue with this method is you don't know if she's busy or doesn't like you.
/r/seduction07/02/16 04:12 AM
1

Just realized something: I've never consistently tried closing with one then switching to the other. That is the next step.
/r/seduction07/02/16 04:11 AM
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Lol it doesn't boil down to 'whether or not you have things going on in life' at all. Someones bias is showing. I've done both probably as much as anyone on this sub; having number closed 6-700 girls. I'm not bias; I actually have done both A LOT. The send my availability I've done ~40+20 times probably (one three month period I only did it, one period late last year where I alternated the two and a few scattered probably) and the other I've done ~100 times. I've also tried "just logistics" and …
/r/seduction07/02/16 04:07 AM
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They don't have any; they just don't get laid and the fact someone lives in abundance enough to not want to give up the best nights of the week for a 'date' rattles them. People downvote anything too far outside their reality.
/r/seduction07/02/16 03:43 AM
1

Lover not provider for sure. Sexually charged conversation can be made with either content or more appropriately delivery. Talk slowly, stare into their soul and touch them LOTS. Talk with your hand around their waist. Then isolate.
/r/seduction05/02/16 11:13 AM
0

I pulled pretty hard in high school. My biggest piece of advice to you would be to say "do you want to go for a walk?" to any girl who seems like she wants to makeout. Then try to fuck her in a park, construction site, someones lawn. I've done all three. As an opener my style is to say something fairly shocking then just hold frame. Basically inciting a dominance struggle then winning. That's not a beginner move though at all. You seem like you're fairly new so I'd just start with "Yo watsup." O…
/r/seduction05/02/16 11:11 AM
1

The icebreaker is for you not for her. If she is attracted to you she will be comfortable with your touch, simple as that.
/r/seduction05/02/16 10:31 AM
2

Showers with girls are dope.
/r/seduction05/02/16 02:03 AM
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Not even that. I shower morning and night and have been told I smell bad once ever. I get told I smell good maybe once a month, but I have girls obviously smelling me a few times a week. I think it's a diet thing though: lots of fresh produce, lots of meat, no dairy, no soy, limited processed anything.
/r/seduction05/02/16 02:02 AM
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The common beginner mistake is thinking you can hide the escalation from the girl. She knows. She knows why you want to play a thumb war, she knows why you want to arm wrestle and she knows why you want to massage her. Girls are ~6x more socially perceptive than men so thinking you can hide your intent from her is retarded. Just embrace it and go for it. Massages work best in isolation though, because they lead to sex so easily.
/r/seduction05/02/16 02:00 AM
1

Don't do that. Assume it's on and text her to say "I'll be running 20 minutes late" the day of.
/r/seduction05/02/16 01:56 AM
1

I'll make eye contact and say hi with a smile and she always responds with the same. That could mean she's very polite Or that she has a normal level of social skills. a crazy cheating bitch so she's gone now. Most girls who cheat most of the time cheat because of your deficiencies. Use it as an educational experience by trying to find out why she cheated, translating that to real talk and then learning the lessons. Given the fact I only get to see her briefly once maybe twice a week any advice …
/r/seduction05/02/16 01:54 AM
1

The idea is to take her shit test and interpret in a way as her wanting to fuck you, stalk you etc. So if she says "I thought I wasn't your type?" You say "you don't have to dye your hair just have a winning smile" implying she was going to dye her hair to be 'your type'. In this example it was a blonde girl I told I only like brunettes.
/r/seduction05/02/16 01:46 AM
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I'm with you here still. Just too many times I've used the other option and had "oh I forgot my brothers birthday!" thrown at me. Plus it does seem a little needy to me as well but I can see both sides of the argument there. You're also right in eliminating girls. If you say "I'm free these two days" either she isn't either of those or to brush you off she says she isn't. You don't know so you try and try again, not fixing any issues which may arise. If she says "not free at all this week" and d…
/r/seduction05/02/16 01:42 AM
1

They're for logistics. No questions in feeler texts. Feeler texts end once you get a positive response then you move into logistics, which by nature must involve questions.
/r/seduction05/02/16 01:38 AM
1

My style is to never make out in public. What does it matter if the room is small?
/r/seduction04/02/16 12:37 PM
3

Stop being a pussy. I'm a natural "introvert" but due to this magical thing called free choice I go outside and approach beautiful women. No one starts off "smooth" that's experience. Until then just learn to screen for the down girl and get those up.
/r/seduction04/02/16 12:36 PM
1

All of this is very true, however a poor living situation can't be an excuse to not pull. I used to live in a house that looked like a crack den: Peeling paint, smashed glass, nails and screws all over the lawn, broken down car on the driveway, two more shitty cars on the street, oil stains across the path outside, weird stickers on all the windows, one of the doors was off-kilter, piles of furniture outside, no indoor toilet... I still pulled there pretty regularly. I think only 2-3 girls were …
/r/seduction04/02/16 12:34 PM
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That makes sense. Personally I've never been a fan of "put the ball in her court" because it seems to fall apart from then. I think that's because I tend to go for very feminine girls and lead the interaction 95%, so it's almost disingenuous for me to do so. Probably would work for most guys though.
/r/seduction04/02/16 12:26 PM
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"Have you been to X? No. Oh it's so cool I'll show you my photos of X come on." Then take them to your room to show them the photos. If that feels like it's too much for you (especially in front of other people) ask them to go for a walk with you (to see Y if necessary) then after the walk say the same line as above.
/r/seduction04/02/16 12:23 PM
1

How many approaches have you done?
/r/seduction04/02/16 09:24 AM
0

This thread is fucking strange...how bad do you guys smell? I don't even use deoderant and have never had a girl complain, it's hot as fuck here too. Maybe mix up your diet or something man. I know beer gives you god awful BO, as do processed foods.
/r/seduction04/02/16 09:22 AM
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Never done this successfully before, I always get blown apart on logistics. Just getting your girl to touch her lots while you remain more distant is the best bet. You want her to be doing the kino escalation. Being a hotel isolation is easy just a drink in your room. Might try a hotel just for this...
/r/seduction04/02/16 03:07 AM
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My favourite opener at the moment is to walk up to group of girls and say loudly "NO NO NO we don't accept your kind here." Then start ushering them out of the venue. Being hot girls it takes them so by surprise they often actually leave the venue with me. Maybe like 1/10 times but it goes at least well 8/10 times. The other one is an ignore or fuck off.
/r/seduction04/02/16 03:06 AM
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Thats the issue- you think it's a game. You should honestly be thinking "do I want to meet this girl again? I don't have the time or space to fit many/any more girls on my roster so I may have to drop her." That shows you have abundance and leaves her with some mystery. She gets to fret over whether you liked her back- which girls love- then she gets the orgasmic relief of you asking her out again. So long as you text her literally anything besides an invite first because doing that is weird.
/r/seduction04/02/16 01:58 AM
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Dude thats awesome social proof. First off though don't ever bring up another girl you've fucked. By showing you don't have discretion she 'proved' you were a creep. Anyway this happens to me sometimes and the best response I've found is teasing, dominating and destroying. I usually say something like "look I'm sorry I didn't call you back but I felt like you were getting too involved and I didn't want to lead you on." She is going to SNAP at you. Your job is to keep your cool, be a little bit a…
/r/seduction03/02/16 10:12 AM
2

Not a game but offer a massage. Otherwise footsies, tickling and 'boop'
/r/seduction03/02/16 09:02 AM
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Options are to take a break or to grind it out. If you pick the second one you basically have to nightgame because it's SNLs that will give you the momentum back. Next best is daygame because at least it will keep you honest.
/r/seduction03/02/16 09:00 AM
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You can't love a girl you've never met. You just sound like a creepy dude who stared at a girl. Up until that point you were more or less on track then you started rambling. Post summary : most people aren't confident.
/r/seduction03/02/16 07:03 AM
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They're both valid depending on circumstances. You use the question to invoke investment and make statements once you already have it to lead.
/r/seduction03/02/16 04:50 AM
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I agree. It sounds like "normally girls never want to meet up with me after my true colours come out. But YOU better!"
/r/seduction03/02/16 04:48 AM
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Texting a girl the day after a date is pretty needy bro. Texting a girl out of the blue to set something up is socially awkward. The combo makes you seem like a guy who doesn't get it to her. Never start a conversation trying to set up a date imagine doing that in person. Only text the next dsy if you're worried she'll feel like a slut. Ie you analed her first date. Otherwise let her wonder if you'll call back. Make her wait a few days and she'll be relieved you messaged. The next day she'll be …
/r/seduction03/02/16 04:23 AM
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This is too much. This will work on tinder because it's (mostly) female dregs, but try it on hot girls you meet in person. Touch is the best way to screen, 10x the girls who verbally agree to sex will physically agree.
/r/seduction03/02/16 01:36 AM
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Each stage of life should have its own focus. For me, as a twenty year old with a decent income and a high sex drive the focus is getting laid. That's fine. I'm comfortable that the skills and confidence I will build from this pursuit, as well as being true to myself, will set me up for the best lofe path I could lead. I will always be doing what I want and so should you. If you don't want to get laid because you're just not that horny fine, but if it's really just fear then admit that and work …
/r/seduction03/02/16 01:29 AM
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Lol cool bro. Nothing to prove. You are right, I over generalized. Very hot girls you meet in daygame usually don't shit test all that hard and if they do, it's one or two very brutal or very sly ones. Like "you're not my type" or beta-bait in an otherwise positive interaction. Nightgame is where very hot girls will shit test super hard. Over and over. If you stick to daygame you'll never deal with that, the girls who do bring that level are crazy and not worth it.
/r/seduction03/02/16 01:23 AM
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Has obviously never taken home the hottest girl from a venue. Really hot girls shit test really hard. They have 100s of guys who want them, only the most alpha are going to get them. The ones who hear "you're not my type" and respond "you're right, you're probably too old for a young stud like me."
/r/seduction02/02/16 05:24 AM
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Not interested bro. She's just stringing you for attention. I would pretend it never happened and go for other girls.
/r/seduction02/02/16 01:27 AM
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Your statistics are bullshit. Also your reasoning is medically unsound. You actually have to have an open wound, while she has an open sore, to catch herpes. Don't have sex with girls who have open wounds on their vaginas and don't have sex when your dick is bleeding. Your actual odds are 1/27 of catching anything, clamydia being the most likely.
/r/seduction02/02/16 01:25 AM
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It does. I have sex for 60+ minutes routinely and have only had a handful break. Make sure you check it every 5-10 minutes, just switch position and give it the once over. Anyway your statistics are bullshit. Your chances of catching any STD are 1/27, the most likely being clamydia.
/r/seduction02/02/16 01:23 AM
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Master the crazy eyes bro. Haven't had to fight in years because of my crazy eyes. Just open your eyes a little wider than normal and grin. If he says anything laugh way too loud then cut off suddenly. Shit freaks most people out.
/r/seduction02/02/16 01:21 AM
1

I've found a wing to be a liability. Opportunities to approach come and go so quickly. I don't do the run across the road cold stop, I try and look natural about it, so I'm not going to chase down a girl I don't see until the last second. It is also creates an issue when wanting to instant date or go for the pull, because you're leaving someone behind and often the girl will bring that up. They still come along but it definitely makes it seem like it didn't "just happen" and you went out with a …
/r/seduction02/02/16 01:17 AM
1

Ramp up the douchebag factor.
/r/seduction02/02/16 01:12 AM
1

You should be trying to get laid as quickly as possible. Those statistics are that 40-80% of women don't orgasm from penetration with their partners. 75% of men ejaculate in under two minutes of penetration. 65% of men are overweight. It takes about ten minutes of steady effort and a minute or two of all out sprinting to make a girl cum; thus most guys fall drastically short on both accounts. EDIT: If you can make a girl cum from the clit you're OK in bed. If you can fuck a girl and she cums on …
/r/seduction02/02/16 01:12 AM
1

There should be an option for "can get the lay, can't form relationship" such as FWB's or OLTR. That used to be a sticking point for me.
/r/seduction01/02/16 02:45 PM
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You can't catch them all, they're not pokemon.
/r/seduction01/02/16 02:43 PM
2

You can just bring it up if they're already attracted abd there is decent rapport.
/r/seduction01/02/16 05:32 AM
0

What a bitch attitude. You can learn from them, you can help each other out. Don't think of them as competition unkess they start competing then blow them off. Ignore them and approach girls. Even 'alphas' are usually afraid to do that and it will gain you strong respect.
/r/seduction01/02/16 05:31 AM
1

"Goodbye." Then shut him out and say to her "come on" lead away. I'm a big guy, good fighter, still don't fight unless I have to. You would probably lose the girl too if you fought win or lose.
/r/seduction01/02/16 05:27 AM
1

Sasha daygame is high energy. High intensity is more your classocal seducer with deep intense eye contact, pauses, sexual tension. I only daygame alone.
/r/seduction01/02/16 04:22 AM
1

No and yes.
/r/seduction01/02/16 04:21 AM
1

Not wanting to be hit on and not expecting it are two different things.
/r/seduction01/02/16 04:20 AM
2

That shows a flaw in your thinking. Think about it this way: If a hot girl comes up to you, does she have to "sound interesting" for you to be into her? Game should be to make you "hot" not make you "interesting" IE LJBF'd. Also not aggressive my tone just doesn't come across well in text. No offense intended, but try and make a few more approaches (200-300) before you start giving advice.
/r/seduction30/01/16 09:16 AM
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The only thing I would do is text her 1-2 days prior to say "forgot I promised to help my friend out can you do..." 30 minutes later. Good text in general if you think a girl will flake.
/r/seduction30/01/16 09:09 AM
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Mostly true. I've noted that from calling girls the ones who would flake just don't answer and my flake rate drops to... Actually can't say, haven't been flaked on but once since I started doing that.
/r/seduction30/01/16 07:19 AM
1

Probably too old school. Statement of Intent/Interest.
/r/seduction30/01/16 07:18 AM
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You'll never remove flaking from daygame. I've found these three things have greatly improved it for me though: 1) Not starting with a SOI ie "you're so cute that I couldn't control my weak little puppy brain" 2) Setting up a vague date before number exchange- I tried specific too but not as good 3) This is the big one I've recently discovered: Put YOUR number into HER phone and text yourself something funny.
/r/seduction30/01/16 05:24 AM
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Have you met up with her? Not to be a dick but I got a fairly high flake rate off this method and think you shouldn't count your eggs before they've hatched. Also rule of thumb; for every day after three days ahead you make plans her flake rate goes up 10%.
/r/seduction30/01/16 04:54 AM
1

So you come in at a 46 degree angle from the SOUTH remember that SOUTH of her position and take the item THREE ITEMS to the left-hand of her. Not your left hand hers! Then you pretend to be confused for 5.4 seconds, before saying witty lines #858 and #46, which of course you can get from buying my course for just $99.55 HALF PRICE! Alternatively you can just go up and introduce yourself. If you think of something witty to say before the introduction that's even better. Here's one I did the other…
/r/seduction30/01/16 04:52 AM
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As long as you're not creepy you won't look creepy. Some girls will be flattered, some will think it's funny and a minority will think it's creepy NO MATTER WHO APPROACHES HOW OR WHERE. A disgusted look and a blow off from a girl= she isn't feeling it that day 99% of the time. DHVing is only for if you're a low value snake-weasel trying to pretend to be a man. The fact that you have the balls to approach in a supermarket when you see a hot girl is enough of a DHV. Look at it from her reality. Fr…
/r/seduction30/01/16 04:43 AM
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That's weak. I've had sex in car parks, rooftops, stairways... spontaneity bro.
/r/seduction30/01/16 04:37 AM
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Best answer. I'll read it.
/r/seduction29/01/16 10:16 AM
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You'll get better at both screening girls- for example, girls drifting along looking around will stop easier- and creating the intensity to stop them. The two paths you can go are high energy or high intensity. You have to pick one. I usually go for the second, although the first is more fun I've found as a 6'3 210 pound guy with a fighters build being overly energetic is counter productive.
/r/seduction29/01/16 10:16 AM
1

Do you prefer activity X or activity y? When are you free this weekend? Cool do you want to do Y at time this Saturday?
/r/seduction28/01/16 11:42 AM
1

Don't. When texting just use it to get one or two positive reactions, then start soft closing logistics. In person talk however you want just don't be offensive, escalate and bat away shit tests. Youre over complicating this
/r/seduction28/01/16 04:34 AM
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Doesn't matter either way. For me personally I would let ot out slowly after having fucked her a few times. Along with a good dicking it would make retention a breeze.
/r/seduction28/01/16 04:32 AM
1

No. Just no. Some girls are dtf some aren't. Age is a minor factor unless you're old. Also 18 year old pussy is where it's at.
/r/seduction28/01/16 03:57 AM
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Don't show he's rattled you by saying something gay and butthurt like "none of your business!" Or worse getting confrontational. Just treat it like a shit test, maybe agree and amplify. Make him uncomfortable dont make him powerful.
/r/seduction28/01/16 02:53 AM
1

Exactly. It's good to leave a little ambiguity because her imagination is likely better than your words could ever be. Just generic bs, ask about her job, make the odd joke. Talk normally like you would to a friend.
/r/seduction28/01/16 01:01 AM
2

The guys have shit game just claim the girl. The other option is girl making guy jealous. Either way attempt to isolate after 5 min and you'll know what page they're on.
/r/seduction27/01/16 07:17 AM
1

Sick marketing copy bro.
/r/seduction27/01/16 06:57 AM
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It so doesn't though. Girls are the emotional equivelant of a flickering light bulb and it's best to get while the gettings good.
/r/seduction27/01/16 06:53 AM
1

Yean and just skipping the SOI until it's at a natural point such as isolation.
/r/seduction27/01/16 03:41 AM
1

IDK man everyone says that but when my FWB's ask I just tell them the truth. I get the logic with new girls but honestly I think that the honesty of telling them negates any loss of them knowing.
/r/seduction26/01/16 05:22 AM
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A lot of girls flat out lie about how many dudes they've fucked. Also the average over a lifetime is only 7 or something. But depending on context this could be a big enough red flag to drop the whole thing. How did it come up? That's a good one. I've never thought of that before but you're so right. Public pull. Also, even if the other girl doesn't like your wing much oftentimes if he comes along anyway you'll both get laid. I've been on both sides of that, when her friend is getting fucked sud…
/r/seduction26/01/16 04:44 AM
1

Statement of Intent/Interest. Ie "I thought you were really cute so I had to come talk to you."
/r/seduction26/01/16 04:35 AM
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IOIs are for chumps. If you're not getting IODs they like you. Girls won't give you shit unless they think you're out of their league but they'll fuck you just for being on their level. IOIs are such a strong sign they should be called indicstors of isolation
/r/seduction25/01/16 05:34 AM
2

That's so not true. Newsflash guy: girls play games
/r/seduction25/01/16 05:22 AM
1

Twice every ten days.
/r/seduction25/01/16 05:20 AM
1

You're in a great position guy. Don't try to change your verbals they seem perfect just touch more and work on your escalation+isolation.
/r/seduction25/01/16 04:50 AM
1

If you can't go to your home and it's winter tou probably have to isolate to your car. Have the date be grab a coffee somewhere then say "hey I'll drive us to this dope lookout point."
/r/seduction25/01/16 04:02 AM
1

1) you're trying too hard to flirt with these girls. 2) you're not fucking enough of these girls that they're impressed.
/r/seduction25/01/16 04:00 AM
1

Start with an introduction instead of a SOI.
/r/seduction25/01/16 03:57 AM
1

That depends on the situation there is no one best response. The most widely applicable is to smirk and say nothing. The best early on is to say "I'm not an object". The best late game is "I'm thinking of what I'm going to do to you." My favourite anyway.
/r/seduction25/01/16 03:55 AM
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Yo smeeegs just drop the bs anyone who has stepped outside of their house knows that the way a girl responds to a hot guy saying "You have a great body" versus that same hot guy saying "I'd like to be more than friends" isn't even on the same level. The first is "You're sexy and I'm sexual." The second is "I haven't been laid since 2008 and I'm getting desperate enough to start endangering my friendships." Although to be fair a player could pull it off, the thing is as a player I'd default to th…
/r/seduction25/01/16 01:15 AM
2

The fastest and best (least likely to blow up in your face/put you in a position where they can lord over you with sex) way to get into a relationship is to go for sex as fast as possible. Trust me on this. After I'd slept with ~30 girls I decided I wanted a relationship so I'd get girls back home, make out, maybe some groping or hand stuff then send them home and try for another date. I threw away so many hotties doing that whereas if I had have just slept with them any one of them would have b…
/r/seduction22/01/16 10:30 AM
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I know it's hard to understand but most girls aren't sweet little almost-virgins. Feelings for boyfriends, early work, too soon... that's all shit girls say so they don't feel slutty. They want you to agree with them logically then escalate anyway because to them "it just happened" and they don't feel like sluts. Plausible deniability. Unless a girl reaaaaaaaally likes you she won't go out on more than 1-2 dates without sex because #3 is where sex is expected and she'll feel like a whore for hav…
/r/seduction22/01/16 07:04 AM
1

You've got a good relaxed style.
/r/seduction22/01/16 06:57 AM
0

When you wok them like their next boyfriend then try to escalate you're pushy. She wants to wait to 'decide' to habe sex eith you. When you're alpha and escalate you're spontaneous and take what you want.
/r/seduction22/01/16 06:45 AM
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Stopping at the grocery store with a girl is actually a pretty cool thing to do. Lots of opportunities to mess with her and joke around. We checked out and made our way home. Yeah it's one of my three date templates. Cool interaction, it's funny how you'll never think about kissing as a thing unto itself but then when it's gone you feel the lack.
/r/seduction22/01/16 01:29 AM
2

Also obvious but YOU LEARN MORE. Try to pull every girl you can kiss. You'll be surprised seriously.
/r/seduction21/01/16 11:37 AM
1

Solid bro. My only piece of advice is TRY TO PULL. If you ever make out with a girl the thing that will catapult your game, lays AND relationships with women to the next level is trying to fuck them.
/r/seduction21/01/16 11:23 AM
0

"Hi I'm werrt. I'm shy but I need to get out of my comfort zone so I decided to speak to you because you look nice." If you get rejected from that sue seriously don't think it's possible.
/r/seduction21/01/16 11:20 AM
1

Awesome post. This really needed to be said.
/r/seduction21/01/16 11:18 AM
7

All of Krausers books. Read those and go out heaps.
/r/seduction21/01/16 11:17 AM
1

You're just plain wrong. If yiu come across as a lover not provider, which you should, then they will go to your house for a date.
/r/seduction21/01/16 10:40 AM
1

I detailed my method. Google Krauser pua for the alternative
/r/seduction21/01/16 02:46 AM
0

This. Also repeat after me "I will never tell a girl how I feel because it will kill my mystery, make her think I'm beta and prove I don't know the first thing about strong feelings." Imagine how much stronger those feelings would have been after sex. Now use that as evidence thst your infatuation is pointless and shouldn't be bragged about.
/r/seduction21/01/16 02:45 AM
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I can only say that from my experience you sleep with a lot of girls until you find one you want to spend more snd more time with, then you do, then you date. If you try to firce it or find the one you'll either become disenchanted or disappointed.
/r/seduction21/01/16 02:41 AM
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I don't f close that often Then your game is way below par. That is the purpose and all else is irrelevant. Kissing is just touching lips. Did you reslly get into game to touch lips?
/r/seduction21/01/16 02:38 AM
12

They can tell you're scared and it scares them off. What yoi feel they feel.
/r/seduction21/01/16 01:53 AM
1

You don't. At Uni either you're a douchebag who gets laid, you're a star athlete/minor celebrity who gets laid, or you don't get laid. Maybe fraternities have day things I don't know. Eventually you learn to love being called a douchebag because only women and betas will say it (cool guys get it too much themselves) with the former really meaning "Would fuck" and the latter meaning "I don't get why girls like him". Also note I speak normally 90% of the time. All players do, we're not go-go-go. I…
/r/seduction20/01/16 10:14 PM
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I'm pretty proud of it. My toilet regurgitates shit yet here you are... KIDDING. Your advice is good because any beta/not player guy who gets caught with womens jewelry/cum on his sheets is FUCKED. They just lost the girl. For me though I'm never masquerading as Mr. Right. I'm just a good lay. I feel like a lot of guys on here just want no-strings sex with a few girls and/or to fuck a lot of girls. That's nothing to be ashamed of. Thus I'm offering an alternative view: Yes you can be the perfect…
/r/seduction20/01/16 01:23 PM
3

More or less the same man. I talk normally 90% of the time, make sexual jokes whenever I think of them, make other jokes whenever I think of them... touch whenever the situation permits. My favourite one that I came up with (ie I didn't get this move from a PUA or Chris) is to lightly push them when they laugh at a joke, especially sexual/inappropriate ones. Then they'll usually push back a bit and we play wrestle until I play win and I'll make a joke out of that too like "Don't come fight the l…
/r/seduction20/01/16 01:12 PM
1

He prolly came up with it but I got it off a frat dude in my city.
/r/seduction20/01/16 12:08 PM
1

Started off fat, poor as shit and with two friends- a gay kid and a mute. Life was fun tho. Went 'vegetarian' to lose the first half of ~20-25kgs of excess fat, then got a blowjob from a girl who decided I was 'hot', shit snowballed from there. Still didn't have more than 2-3 friends or anything to do on the weekend until like five years. Which was about two years after I got into game. I was SUPER awkward, next to 0 social skills. I honestly used to pretend to be retarded and read Harry Potter …
/r/seduction20/01/16 12:08 PM
5

Try to fuck girls as quickly as possible. Literally my biggest regret and the thing I lost the most women too is escalating slower than they were willing, usually in an attempt to date them pre-sex. Girls don't think of it as dating-sex if you're a stud, they think challenge-sex-win him over-dating.
/r/seduction20/01/16 11:54 AM
1

Oh jesus christ. Yes you have to be fashionable. Yes you have to have a good haircut. If it costs you $50 though you're a chump. If you're paying for the date you're a chump. My old spreadsheet, Heartiste's, Black Dragon's and a whole bunch of others say that is flat out retarded. You lower your chances of getting laid for AT BEST increasing the duration you have to wait to get laid. What part of that is a positive? The most you should ever pay is 50% of the drinks tab. Dinner dates are for girl…
/r/seduction20/01/16 11:52 AM
0

At the end I realized you're a girl. This is all really good advice with the caveat IF you're already very alpha and the girl has the impression you're a player. Otherwise you'll just chode yourself out harder and at best wait 3-10 dates for that pussy. Ask the fisherman not the fish.
/r/seduction20/01/16 11:47 AM
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Like everything complex you can form generalities. Ie it's impossible to say if Mayweather or Mohammed was a better boxer but we can look at total wins, win:loss record etc to make an educated decision. However this is fsr more cut and dry because 9/10 times the guy with more notches will have more game. Also everyone I know and have heard of who is good at game goes through a stage, I've heard it called the notch count hyena stage and I like that. Yet another reason fair merit should be given t…
/r/seduction20/01/16 09:03 AM
1

Translation from butthurt gamma to English the closest I've ever been to pussy was my own birth but I feel entitled for now because I've read lots of theory. Sometime soon I'll realize I'm not cut out for this and attach myself to MGTOW. For now tho I'm going to insult you because I lack the experience to form a coherent argument about a topic I am clearly an amateur within.
/r/seduction20/01/16 07:09 AM
1

Basically when you're super insecure and either boring or scared you tell this story that makes girls think "wow this beta loves to boast but still seems like a beta" because you want to put of escalating and possible rejection.
/r/seduction20/01/16 03:56 AM
1

Approach a shit tonne of girls, try to isolate any girl who seems into you. Better to be bold than smooth. You learn more and get laid more.
/r/seduction20/01/16 03:50 AM
1

Worked for me three times. Fucked a fatty when I was 16, fucked a suler hottie and dated her for a while at 17 and then at 18 got my friend laid in a weird 4way with that gf and another girl I pulled from Facebook. At the time however my fb game was fkn awful because my text game sucked. Definitely possible. Stand out.
/r/seduction20/01/16 03:47 AM
1

Listen and escalate. Nothing else matters.
/r/seduction20/01/16 03:45 AM
1

Here is something nice to remember : Escalation>attraction Confident>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smooth
/r/seduction20/01/16 03:40 AM
1

Lol. Ur right bro I'm a mpua and one day hope to get more than a pity kiss from a cherish hb6 after 44 dinner dates Go read my post history hustler maybe one day you can become a thug stud too Also watch Russell Brand he does the sexual talk about random stuff like food all the time. Probably the best natural ever.
/r/seduction20/01/16 03:30 AM
2

Push harder with each girl. Getting less numbers will force you to do that. This is really common for beginners btw, I got like 300 numbers before I got laid 10 times. So thats 30 numbers a lay and half of the lays were ONSs to boot. So 60 numbers to one lay... lol.
/r/seduction20/01/16 02:15 AM
1

I wonder if I'll fall in love ever or if I'll just keeping fucking young girls til my dick stops working
/r/seduction20/01/16 02:13 AM
4

"Hey I'm (name)"
/r/seduction20/01/16 02:12 AM
1

She's a seven. Girls are judged on looks first and everything else a distant second. When you're seeing a hotter girl give literally 0 fucks about this girls accomplishments.
/r/seduction20/01/16 02:11 AM
8

"Last chance for love" is what I yell. Yet to work on the girl who rejected me but a few times other girls got interested in my idgaf attitude. Another good one that actually has gotten me that girl is to just start talking about everything she is throwing away and going over the top with it while escalating. Obv only worms with soft rejection when she actually does like you but isn't leaving with you because idk friends or some shit.
/r/seduction20/01/16 02:09 AM
1

Treating her like a taxi. Maybe that's a neg? Idk would be funny
/r/seduction20/01/16 02:07 AM
1

Haha lol. You can flirt without teasing plus whatever bro. For example I sometimes flirt by saying "hey if you're still sore tomorrow I'll let you buy me lunch" that is neither teasing nor complimenting yet is flirting. Or yu can flirt by talking in a vaguely sexual tone about every day things. For example about how slippery and wet the shower made you. Lastly you can hold strong eye contact and escalate off of her stacked responses to queries you raise, acting intrigued by her answers. Again, n…
/r/seduction20/01/16 02:05 AM
2

Literally why would it matter? WTF you're overthinking this so hard. I don't drive either and have had tonnes of girls pick me up for dates. If anything it's a good thing because you don't have to drive. Just don't be weird about it or thank them or anything. Bonus points if you sit in the back seat.
/r/seduction19/01/16 12:49 AM
1

No you can flirt about and with anything flirting is a vibe. Watch Russell Brand. That is one good way to flirt tho.
/r/seduction19/01/16 12:47 AM
3

Read Krauserpua. You will stop feeling that way if you understand you are giving these girls a Hollywood moment and they will tell all their friends about this for days.
/r/seduction19/01/16 12:46 AM
3

Don't do it on the first option she gives you ie tomorrow, choose Wednesday, otherwise you look like you have nothing to do except hang with her. The first date can either be a date to pull- ie a four hour date ending at your house- or a one to 1.5 hour date ending with an abrupt and cheerful goodbye when they don't expect it. I never kiss girls on the first date either, let that sexual tension build so when they come to the second date (drinks at your house) boom, explosion. Plus it leaves them…
/r/seduction19/01/16 12:45 AM
6

Good advice but you guys should stop with the whole "100%! Never again! Every time!" Bullshit because women aren't robots. Yes this will improve your meetup rate but that will NEVER hit 100%. Let alone your text/call back rate.
/r/seduction19/01/16 12:41 AM
2

You're coming in as the beta bux guy so naturally there is going to be insecurity because on an instinctual level you know she's getting fucked by some guy she is buying dinner to give her that dick. Tough love but you'll stop feeling insecure if you know girls will go out of their way for you because they want to fuck you so bad. Edit: I used to get sad about it too. Oh she fucked another guy? Was his dick bigger? Did he make her cum??? Now it rarely if ever happens. It's happened twice that I …
/r/seduction18/01/16 03:07 PM
1

Urban exploring and cliff jumping.
/r/seduction18/01/16 03:04 PM
2

Not a frat bro but still at uni and got/get a lot of success there. During break I can either fuck a lot of high quality girls (retention), fuck a lot of new girls, or fuck some new hot girls. I can't keep quality, novelty and quantity as high as during semester because there just isn't the same volume tight, young, open-minded girls with a lot of commonalities and instant trust. For the record I do a mix of the three changing my focus as I feel fit.
/r/seduction18/01/16 03:02 PM
1

I had her over the weekend and she moved half her stuff into my house from Friday-Sunday. Good times. Got me over my neediness/obsession with her so now I'll just give her position as #1 in my lineup.
/r/seduction18/01/16 05:22 AM
1

Rephrasing the question just indicates that the answer is low. I used to number farm and fuck next to no girls but the quicker you admit your issue lies in isolation/escalation the better. Start inviting the girls out for "a drink" the same night/next night to see what's up.
/r/TheRedPill17/01/16 03:47 PM
1

Actually, 51% of the world has a vagina. Wars and disease kill more men.
/r/TheRedPill17/01/16 03:45 PM
0

It's because guys they don't know haven't choded themselves out yet. If you're actually alpha you can know a girl for years and the attraction will never die. I didn't need to isolate. Her female friends will always want her to cheat and will do their best to cover the tracks. Most girls will drink just so they will kiss alphas and then get away with it. What was funnier was that the story spread rapidly, I couldn't have asked for a better outcome. Dude seriously WTF you're 17, aren't you horny?…
/r/TheRedPill17/01/16 03:35 PM
1

Lot's of eye contact but no sustained holds. If I was looking at something else she'd watch me and I could see her fidget more when I looked at her.
/r/seduction16/01/16 02:04 AM
2

Fuck Buddies. I forgot the international forums use FWB's. Cheers
/r/seduction16/01/16 02:02 AM
4

Hey guys do you think if women feel societal pressure to answer a certain way lest they appear a slut and/or shallow that they will?
/r/seduction16/01/16 02:01 AM
2

Either one arm around their legs or waist, best if they're straddling you, other hand cups their head. You want to slam their upper back against a door preferably (it will be loud) or a wall. You want to shock her but not wind her.
/r/seduction13/01/16 12:01 PM
1

A small city in Australia. If there are less than 1mil people then moving might be the best bet.
/r/seduction13/01/16 11:58 AM
7

stfu I moved out of home when I was fifteen and have been working to build this life ever since. Stop acting like an entitled little bitch and go get it yourself.
/r/seduction13/01/16 11:57 AM
1

You're completely right, once the mind start to race... Honestly that really confused me. I guess she actually was just hungry. We talked more, she seemed relaxed and happy. The more confusing part to me though was after, I stood up and she followed me but we just sort of circled each other. I actually sat down knowing she would come closer to me but don't know how... instinct I guess. There was a ~36cm/14in height differential and I think it intimidated her a bit. All I can think of.
/r/seduction13/01/16 11:56 AM
1

I want to improve my FR's so if you could let me know what is confusing I would appreciate it :)
/r/seduction13/01/16 11:50 AM
0

It's not the type of girl she seems like. It's the type of guy you seem like. Read these because it explains it better than I ever could http://www.goodlookingloser.com/entry/get-laid/retention-fuck-buddies http://www.goodlookingloser.com/entry/get-laid/why-you-arent-getting-laid-on-your-first-dates At the moment you're a nice guy, so the girls attracted to you are going to want to make you wait. Some of those girls wouldn't even go on dates with other types of guys but most will straight up fuc…
/r/seduction12/01/16 02:31 PM
2

It's hard to push too hard because anyone with a modicum of social intelligence can see when a girl is withdrawing- that's a yellow light. No idea. You said- girls know what's up. Sincerity>everything else. When I invite them to hang they aren't going to come unless they see the prospect of sex with me as a positive.
/r/seduction12/01/16 01:07 PM
0

Why'd you send so many messages man. When you're starting a conversation via text, never ask any questions. They're going to feel compelled to reply anyway so just send something funny like a meme. The first text isn't to ask girls on dates either, that's super uncalibrated. Even if she really likes you it will set off alarm bells. The only time it works is once you've already made date plans during the interaction. Even girls you've fucked, unless it's been a few times, text something they don'…
/r/seduction11/01/16 11:18 AM
1

Avoid going over for a while. Let him escalate but have a hard line. A smart one is probably not letting him finger you, because it might be hard to think straight if he makes you cum. If things get really heated blow him over fucking him, after he's cum he won't try to fuck you again but that will definitely keep him interested because he will know he has a chance. When you finally have sex ask him to go really slow at first because you need to get used to it. The implication being you're very …
/r/seduction11/01/16 11:11 AM
1

Por que no los dos!
/r/seduction11/01/16 10:56 AM
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Make him think he will definitely have sex with you but that you aren't easy. Just keep him chasing as long as possible. The longer her chases beforehand the longer he will after. It gives a chance to form a friendship.
/r/seduction11/01/16 10:50 AM
1

Mechanical tension and shear force applied to the vascular tissue in an attempt to encourage angiogenesis, vasculogenesis and hypertrophy of the smooth muscle tissue. The mechanical tension can be manual stretching in 2+ minute sets, an all day stretching device or some type of weight hanging. The shear force can be applied via "jelquing" and or a vacuum pump specially designed for the task. The two activities are very complimentary.
/r/seduction11/01/16 10:46 AM
1

Stop making out with girls in public. It screws your longtime chances of banging her most the time. Listen to Metalliacs advice. My question is how many times are you asking? About 50% of girls will say yes to me the first time, the others take 2-4 asks.
/r/seduction11/01/16 01:37 AM
-1

If she seems like the judgmental type I say "It's complicated." or "I'll just keep going until I find the right one." If she seems open minded I'll tell her, which they seem to appreciate. Also how does this question come up? I honestly never get asked it unless I ask first.
/r/seduction11/01/16 12:47 AM
7

Good luck bro. Good work on making the decision to take control of your life. You'll find it easier and easier as you gain momentum, especially as you'll be approaching every day. One thing I'll recommend to you is do both day and night approaches. If you can get both out of the way early it makes it far less intimidating later on & it improves your skill set faster.
/r/seduction11/01/16 12:45 AM
2

When you introduce yourself for the first time, shake her hand. When you meet girls hug. That was one of the biggest game shifts from a single change for me. Everything goes way better or quicker if you hug on open. At the end of the date, when you hug her, hold her close and go in for the kiss. Because if you don't wait until the end of the date to kiss her, she might get confused and think you'll have a sexual relationship. This way she knows you don't want to pressure her to have that evil se…
/r/seduction09/01/16 01:40 AM
1

Yeah. To bullshit = to chat. Australia. The second example is said in a joking way.
/r/seduction08/01/16 07:39 AM
3

If she stops you from going further at the moment at the same stage several times you can be assured she is flirting with you for validation.
/r/seduction08/01/16 04:47 AM
3

Take every opportunity to escalate. Make every opportunity to escalate. If she is uncomfortable stop completely, talk to her and make her comfortable again. Don't talk about her discomfort though. In general follow the escalation ladder. Once isolated follow the ramp. As you get more experienced you'll start to learn to read the specifics better and be able to skip steps. More important than taking clothes off is penis in vagina, that unlocks all lower levels but a lot of girls are self consciou…
/r/seduction08/01/16 04:11 AM
2

I was civil. Civil war! Hahaha no seriously, I'm actually just being straight forward and honest. As stated before the "Oh you think that's all I want" thing... is just you. I never said that. I say that's all you want inferring that the girl only wants to have sex with me if they bring it up. It's called projection, thus my other comment. The classic examples of projection are that thieves are always suspicious of being stolen from and that liars are the most mistrustful. I'm actually screening…
/r/seduction08/01/16 04:06 AM
1

This works better for me: Send a funny text/meme, call her the instant she replies and chit chat for a bit then set the date. Then end the call with "Cool I'll text you the place to meet" and text her the address+time.
/r/seduction08/01/16 01:36 AM
3

If you make her laugh he will give you her number or say "I have a boyfriend." Just say "it's been fun chatting to you let's catch up some time." Or more advanced but way better "you know you seem like a cool girl... what are you doing tonight?" then invite her for a drink, grab the number. Send your name straight away and if she doesn't confirm the date, send her a text an hour or two before saying you'll be fifteen late.
/r/seduction08/01/16 01:33 AM
8

For me personally: Talk to girls. Say something mildly controversial so the conversation is polarizing which speeds up the next step. Initiate physical dialogue with girl I'm attracted to. More or less the escalation ladder. I'm experienced so I skip steps fairly often. Sometimes I open with my hand on their waist. Chat/small talk until we vibe on a topic. Usually 5-20 minutes. Figure out her logistics. First I try to move the girl. If she won't move to sit down with me or stand outside, she wou…
/r/seduction08/01/16 12:54 AM
17

This is good and sounds like fun however from experience if she reacts bad at any stage, just back down and try again Is risky to say. At least 80% of the time, if she reacts badly she is unavailable and continuing to back down and re-escalate is not going to get you very far. Just do it once, twice if you are otherwise getting very good vibes, because otherwise you'll end up wasting time on a girl who would never have sex with you.
/r/seduction08/01/16 12:38 AM
1

The other posters are right. Ultimatums only work if two very important things are in place: 1) You have MUCH higher value. 2) Both outcomes are a win for you. They expend huge social capital and put you in a position of weakness to boot.
/r/seduction08/01/16 12:35 AM
2

I just finished up with it. My initial reaction was "why would I bother, I've already fucked her." Meaning it's easy to hang out together, there is no "game" so to speak. We both know where our cards lay. Then I actually hung out with her and had a really fun time so I'll write about it hear then post it to my frat.
/r/seduction07/01/16 04:54 PM
2

No I never imply that either. The STD risk is very low considering I wear condoms and have no open wounds on or near my genitals.
/r/seduction07/01/16 04:52 PM
1

You should be doing that anyway. Any unsuccessful attempt to pick up a girl should end on good terms 99% of the time and lead to a situation whereby when she is available she will let that be known to you. That means it is better to escalate faster, have her say no, then have her say "Oh, my week hasn't been too good because I broke up with my boyfriend." You lose more girls doing this than not. Go with #2.
/r/seduction06/01/16 03:08 AM
9

Actually that's a really good point. Most the PUA's look like they're hitting up girls and number farming. That looks creepy. Good players look like girls are hitting them up. Then girls start to think what's up with that guy, why are all the girls talking to him?
/r/seduction06/01/16 03:04 AM
4

Most guys lose girls by being not aggressive enough. It seldom happens the other way. Unless you're particularly unattractive which is unfortunate but you can work on your looks and take a less direct approach in that case.
/r/seduction06/01/16 02:58 AM
1

Yeah you guys are right, girls love sex and it's a simple choice! Which is why it's wrong to give it to them at the time they most crave it! Yeah! Girls enjoy emotional connection, which is why providing that connection in a mutually gratifying manner is manipulative! Do you guys even think before you write bullshit or does the bullshit just appear absent of the thought?
/r/seduction06/01/16 02:57 AM
-2

Lol she lives in a different country and is only here for two weeks. I think she was equally happy she found someone she finds very attractive to sleep with. We're going out tomorrow. She also thanked me after the sex. Stop projecting it's triggering me.
/r/seduction06/01/16 02:53 AM
2

I agree with you. If you want to retain girls the best thing to do is get them invested. The biggest investment you can get is sex, so if you want to retain girls have sex with them. For the majority of guys who are inexperienced that will also boost their confidence a lot. It's nice have 3-4 girls hitting you up and it makes it a lot easier to go for that "perfect person."
/r/seduction06/01/16 02:51 AM
4

How do you even quantify this?
/r/seduction05/01/16 02:14 PM
1

My going out gang have two famous car parks we bang at. I have a park I like too if I don't want to bang a girl in a carpark.
/r/seduction05/01/16 02:13 PM
40

Women and men think differently. Preselection is awesome and flirting with other women is one of the easiest ways to get girls interested in you.
/r/seduction05/01/16 02:10 PM
1

Send her a text on the 9th of January saying you forgot you had something on that morning, can she do 30 minutes later? That way you don't lose any attraction and you confirm the date without seeming needy.
/r/seduction05/01/16 09:48 AM
-4

Keep flirting with her and having fun. Girls reject 99% of the time because either a) they're unavailable or b) to test you to see how you react. I approached my crush in high school and she yelled at me to fuck off and that I was creepy. I came on her face like 2-3 months later at some party where she approached me drunk and admitted she admired my balls. "Moving to nothing actually possible??????????????" Hahaha whatever dude I went to a tiny school with a 60/40 split of guys to girls, all aca…
/r/seduction05/01/16 12:25 AM
-1

Up to you man but you'll probably get more out of doing it. Even if you don't get laid you'll learn something, build comfort with that girl and hopefully some social capital with the other. Also chicks are fucking illogical man. I have friends that are girls that say BS like "Threesomes aren't cheating" and "blowjobs aren't cheating."
/r/seduction05/01/16 12:22 AM
-1

For me I'd build a friendship with both girls and then try to use them as social proof. The other option would be saying you don't feel comfortable with a stranger in your house and to do it in public. But if you met this girl through tinder doubt it will work. Seriously I think the threesome is on the cards though, you met the girl through tinder. Unless the other chick is fat?
/r/seduction05/01/16 12:17 AM
1

Also rephrase that second text it kinda sounds awkward, I wrote it off the top of my head.
/r/seduction05/01/16 12:14 AM
0

why is a threesome off the table? She'll probably come over with the friend and the friend will leave early. Otherwise still do it, let yourself be friendzoned and then invite her out with you going to the college bar and shit. If she's hot and invites her friends you'll get mad social proof and that's worth way more than one lay.
/r/seduction05/01/16 12:14 AM
0

Jut respond like a shit test. Agree+Amplify or misinterpret. IE "Bring all your friends." "I should probably bring a friend to keep me safe from you guys..." They're not very good but you get the point. Just send that, let her reply simmer for a bit and she'll either a) excuse the friend or b) tell you the friend is leaving. OR you're about to have a threesome.
/r/seduction05/01/16 12:09 AM
0

hahaha shit test dude don't worry. You know how to reply to these?
/r/seduction05/01/16 12:05 AM
-1

She wants to have sex. This is the girl idea of guaranteed sex. Make her take her shoes off at the door. Hug. Give her a tour of the house first thing. Show her your room, bathroom and toilet as highest priorities. They should all be clean, as should your couch area. The moment for a kiss thing is ok advice but unless she gets super turned on it's hard to escalate on a couch. If you actually want to get laid, just ask her if she wants a massage. When she says yes start massaging, then say you ca…
/r/seduction05/01/16 12:02 AM
2

Big ask. But good one. So here goes. I got into game after reading The Game at about 14.5. I was never terrible with girls, but I was nerdy and had no friends in primary school so girls generally avoided me. In High School early on it was much the same but then I got into Game and... Initially it got worse. That makes sense, I wasn't good with girls but was acting like I was and was trying to fuck them. Eventually I got a pretty hot girl into my bed, had my first kiss, first fingering and first …
/r/seduction04/01/16 12:42 AM
3

Rules of The Game is useless BS. I read the book as an aspiring PUA and never got freaking anywhere with the drills. I got stuck on one of the days where you had to call a random number and ask for a movie recommendation for three days, ended up calling like 40 different people and not getting any recommendations. Anyway after that I worked on saying hello to girls and that was both free and effective. The Game is entertaining but after you're a player you will realize how sad it is. In all dire…
/r/seduction04/01/16 12:06 AM
1

She will get that it was a casual thing without you saying anything. Just don't ask to date her.
/r/seduction04/01/16 12:00 AM
3

You got set up dude. If a girl EVER escalates on you isolate straight away. I don't give a fuck if you're in math class. Just do it.
/r/seduction03/01/16 03:25 PM
1

If you don't make moves quickly, especially if you're a good catch, girls will want to date you. They see the opportunity to lock you down with sex because the lack of rapid escalation shows you're probably not that comfortable with it and that you place more value on it than they. Also if you're tall good looking etc you need far less game. You can literally just use escalate-isolate-fuck 'game' aka screening.
/r/seduction03/01/16 01:37 PM
5

I had that. You're probably not escalating hard enough and giving off a friend vibe.
/r/seduction03/01/16 01:26 PM
4

Ahahaha I find the the best is to ask them to stay. They will put up token resistance, act like she used you for sex then cave to it. I have a friend who just says "How are you getting home?" which has a 100% success rate, but I like to retain girls so I don't do that. It's always good to make the girl feel like she's using you for sex.
/r/seduction03/01/16 01:16 PM
1

The best way to tell is to try and escalate and if she starts to look uncomfortable stop. Retry one more time after ~5 minutes. If she is into it isolate. If she isn't leave and talk to another girl.
/r/seduction03/01/16 12:45 PM
1

A better format for texting is engage interest->pass shit test->ask out, with the second only being a factor with girls who are on the fence. Example: Send photo of you dressed like a robot with the caption "The Terminator" 2-3 message exchange, she asks a loaded question "Why are you hitting me up?" You pass the shit test "Is that all you think about (name)" usually there is a little struggle "I thought you said I was boring??" so then you pass that too "You're getting kinda needy (name)" then …
/r/seduction03/01/16 12:32 PM
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