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perceived status increase -> hornier GF

beginner_ · 2014-05-17T14:50:29+00:00

I applied for a new job and can go to an interview. However I do not have that job yet and I don't now what I will earn but given the industry it will be...

beginner_

May 17, 2014

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Title	perceived status increase -> hornier GF
Author	beginner_
Upvotes	13
Comments	55
Date	May 17, 2014 2:50 PM UTC (12 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/25skxo/perceived_status_increase_hornier_gf/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/TheRedPill/perceived-status-increase-hornier-gf.15497 https://theredarchive.com/post/15497

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Men wage war on other men. Please do show me evidence of women engendering a war and benefiting from it? Is it not well known that in war women are highly likely to become rape victims and become collateral deaths or have you completley ignored that aspect? Have you ever even looked up the past oppression of women and the omission of them from history? Seriously look it up, research it. You might learn a thing or two about women being seen only as child bearers, denied access to education unless from a high class, looked down upon from deviating from their "roles". Many great women have been written out of history over the years, as have people of different races. There are many women who have made great discoveries and each up until recently received disgusting sexism. Women are now free, independent and have begun to make more intellectual contributions because of this. Their contribution is growing. Look around you, learn from now.

[–]reformation142 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Here you go:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/nov/11/first-world-war-white-feather-cowardice

Quite sickening actually.

Is it not well known that in war women are highly likely to become rape victims and become collateral deaths or have you completley ignored that aspect? Have you ever even looked up the past oppression of women and the omission of them from history?

And men are collateral deaths as well, not to mention being forced to fight.

...denied access to education unless from a high class, looked down upon from deviating from their "roles".

Which was also the experience of the vast majority of men throughout history.

Women are now free, independent and have begun to make more intellectual contributions because of this.

Not much though. Not really enough to suggest their absence really had any impact on scientific revolutions.

For the rest of your statement:

Absence from historical scientific progress is not evidence for oppression. Thats only an attempt at explaining it.

[–]sansurnt0 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

It's other men who force men to fight. Women couldn't force them, they could just encourage them. Yes, it's pretty shit to encourage or force anyone to fight but everyone was quite indoctrinated at that time apart from the men at the top actually waging the war. Yes, it was the experience of the vast majority of men and the vast majority of men did nothing special in history as well. For basically the whole of history a man's suggested role was that he provide and make or do something remarkable or obtain power. A woman's was have kids, stay in the home and mind them. Are we really amazed then that these roles resulted in producing less women in history? Dude, these changes where women are encouraged to deviate from these archaic and regressive roles and pursue the most success they can obtain only happened recently and still have a long way to go. Do you seriously expect them to suddenly all become scientists? They're getting there steadily but change is happening quick and we often forget how chaotic this might be for women considering how immensely different their current lives are opposed to their mothers. Are you really denying that women were oppressed? In the early 20th century it was still legal to beat your wife and rape her. This is the wife that most likely depended on her husband for money so she could not leave him for need and societal shame. They were denied rights that men had. I'm not talking about "being left out of the workforce oppression". I'm talking about the lack of rights and being seen as subordinates.

[–]reformation142 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Women couldn't force them, they could just encourage them.

Women have significant control over social mores. Shaming men into fighting is forcing them to fight.

A woman's was have kids, stay in the home and mind them.

History actually has quite a few examples of women attaining positions of power prior to the 20th century, but a near complete lack of women making scientific, technical or philosophical discoveries...

Dude, these changes where women are encouraged to deviate from these archaic and regressive roles and pursue the most success they can obtain only happened recently and still have a long way to go.

Those roles you mention have only really existed for 200 years in certain places and are not uniform throughout history.

Do you seriously expect them to suddenly all become scientists?

They've had 7000 years to become scientists.

Are you really denying that women were oppressed?

Well yes actually. Sure it some instances women were specifically held down, but the general experience in history is women were fairly independent of men, but even with that independence they failed to make any intellectual progress to human culture. I think you want to believe they were uniformly oppressed and that is the only reason they made no contribution. In fact the oppression against women culture you seem to think has been universal throughout human history has only really reared its ugly head in certain places and it was most absent from those historic cultures which were rich enough to make scientific discoveries.

Here is a great example:

"The status of women in ancient Greece varied form city state to city state. Records exist of women in ancient Delphi, Gortyn, Thessaly, Megara and Sparta owning land, the most prestigious form of private property at the time"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_Ancient_Greece#Women_in_Ancient_Greece

And yet I can think of no female philosopher from ancient greece.

They were denied rights that men had. I'm not talking about "being left out of the workforce oppression". I'm talking about the lack of rights and being seen as subordinates.

In some instances yes, in most instances no. We are talking 7000 years of history with thousands cultures with multiple legal and cultural systems. And yet intellectual progress was the domain of men, I would say exclusively men. In fact I cannot think of a single major scientific discovery made by a women in the absence of a male colleague prior to 1950 stretching back to 5000 B.C. I also cannot think of a single political philosophy apart from feminism or religion founded by a women to this day.

This is the wife that most likely depended on her husband for money so she could not leave him for need and societal shame.

Mohammed married a rich older women...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad's_wives#Khadija_bint_Khuwaylid

Edit: There is Ayn Rand, but unfortunately she appears to be universally hated by feminists.

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The red pill is quite a complicated place. Some of the people on here are tits who are the type of men women should stay away from. Some of them are just bit tired of being a doormat and are learning a bit of self confidence and learning to not be so needy.

There are some core truths to it. Namely that women are attracted to men who know themselves well and that they can't control. Some of the stuff on here gets a bit whiny though "waaa waaa feminists hate me!" "waaa waaa slutty girls just want me for my moneyt" kind of shit. I think the true red piller is a man who doesn't hate women or think of them as some sort of lesser side of humanity. Rather its a man who accepts what women are and that they are approach dating and romance from a different perspective. A man that accepts his position in that terrible symbiotic relationship we have with the opposite sex.

Personally I think sexual assault comes from frustrated men who get spurned by women and then get violent. The best way to stop this is to teach men self confidence, self control and to sit back and be themselves and have pride in their own lives, and most importantly to not let the games women play get them too much. Or better yet teach them that those games are not about fucking with them but about making sure they are good men (not nice guys, good men).

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[–]reformation142 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Two things.

Firstly I am not denying that there are intelligent women. Far from it. What I'm saying is that that intelligence doesn't translate into advancement in certain fields of human endeavour. This is because I think men's brains are geared towards perpetuating and promoting ideas and working on them independently. I honestly don't know truly what women's brains are geared towards because I do not know that side of the equation personally. My theory is they have more of a collective consciousness and are not geared to putting forward their ideas in the way men do. Society has changed over the last 100 years with the rise of office workers and the need for women to enter the workforce. But this is a hard wiring that no amount of feminism can change.

Secondly, the intellectual advancements of women are unseen. I firmly believe that society and social mores are female driven areas, hell female controlled and dominated areas. Mens power over morality pales in significant to females power. There has been significant development in this area in the last several thousand years as civilisations have come and gone, but because women never seem to speak about their ideas in the way men do we have no record of this.

So women control the social, men control the intellectual. Culture comes from mothers, interpersonal positioning comes from fathers.

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