Polygamous behavior in men is equilvalent to Hypergamous behavior

finnabustanuut · 2018-07-06T10:56:02+00:00

I agree with you. You cant be mad for hypergamy and then cheat on your gf. If you argue that women value status you can also say that men value only looks. Red pill is there to understand women and improve your life and not to hate women for their nature.

TheAC997 · 2018-07-06T12:10:23+00:00

My understanding is that people here aren't upset at hypergamy, they're/we're upset that we're expected to pretend it doesn't exist.

Avskygod0 · 2018-07-06T11:20:14+00:00

According to some, polygyny is the main reason why West Africa failed so hard in the end

NutmegPluto · 2018-07-06T10:08:20+00:00

If I were in an LTR I probably wouldn't cheat but I definitely wouldn't if married, I have principles

itiswr1tten · 2018-07-06T12:55:10+00:00

TRP 101: sexual strategy done properly is amoral. Only someone in the 5 stages of grief (which is 90%+of readers) would think TRP advocates either being "faithful" or "bad" - both are irrelevant in the praxeology.

That said even your base theory is off - hypergamy and polygamy are separate nonanalogous strategies.

Ciaccoo · 2018-07-06T10:41:49+00:00

Hypergamous behaviour is marrying/fucking up, or branch swinging from one alpha male to a more alpha male.

Polygamy is a man having multiple wives or sex partners.

They aren't equivalent by mere definition, let alone the strategy they each implement.

ZZ3xhZz · 2018-07-06T12:50:48+00:00

Don't cheat. It reflects poorly on you and lower your status. It also hurts people including yourself.

alphabachelor · 2018-07-06T12:08:44+00:00

A better comparison is how women are the gatekeepers of sex but we are the gatekeepers of relationships.

CMajorThe3rd · 2018-07-06T11:41:16+00:00

Red pill is only about male self empower and emrovement through understanding the field that you are forced to play on.

It is up to the individual man to determine if he wishes to enter into an LTR or if he chooses to remain casual in his encounters with women because he also understand what he is really doing by investing into her.

It is about making informed decisions.

There should not be any judgement associated with these behavioral manifestations as they are observations to then be used as you see fit. It sounds like you have chosen to find anger at this phase of your journey, and that is ok for a young man to find anger so long as it is channeled into bettering yourself.

demilitarizdsm · 2018-07-06T11:11:36+00:00

If your environment/culture is punitive towards one more than the other tough shit I guess. But I agree, they equal each other out nicely and considering women can't turn theirs off, keeping my options open and not limiting access due to arbitrary commitment rules gives me peace of mind.

AnyDoughnut · 2018-07-06T13:02:28+00:00

It's true that many on here have a warped perspective of dating and the realities of mating. Men can be equally as shitty as women. If we are of a decent social status, we can be just as ruthless as women in dating. Using a woman because she is a hot piece of ass and then kicking her to the curb as soon as you get tired of her is just as ruthless as a woman using a beta male as long as he offers her security and resources.

Both genders do what nature has decided the optimal route for procreation and perpetuating the species. Hypergamy and polygamy is what nature intended, but that doesn't mean it doesn't lead to a lot of hurt feelings.

The sad reality is the mating game is cruel, harsh, and unfair. So is life in general.

adirp · 2018-07-06T11:56:38+00:00

They're not equivalent.

When a woman looks for new options, she no longer cares about her current one. When men sleep with someone else on the side, they can be very much infatuated with their main partner.

DickTerper · 2018-07-06T12:19:59+00:00

I think you misunderstood the purpose of this subreddit.

The message here isn't "men are good, women are evil".

The purpose of this place is to discover and disseminate accurate information regarding how the sexual game is played, what female sexual strategy really is, and how you may want to approach it in the role of an authentic man.

Outside this place, male sexual strategy is often vilified, and female sexual strategy is often whitewashed. For example, yes, men are promiscuous by nature, and as such we are often condemned by society, while the "morally questionable" things women do, such as lead on small armies of orbiters, manipulate men, and yes, engage in hypergamy - are all partially obscured and excused.

Finally, "society's moral judgement" is just that: a social construct.

gbdoragnic · 2018-07-06T13:52:51+00:00

No, this is showing a lack of understanding, Hypergamy doesn't fuck men up, men aren't owed anything, any man mad at Hypergamy is a entitled prick.

Divorce rape makes women morally bad, men too, you take advantage of someone who loves you, that isn't Hypergamy that is oppression

> We have to stop being so self rigtheous and realize men can be just a shitty as women.

You have to stop being self righteous, hey women treat men like shit, but that is ok , because men treat women like shit, therefore we should just focus on being as shitty as possible.

Hypergamy isn't good or bad, it's not for us, never meant to benefit us, it's meant for women, it is good for them, I don't need a equalizer , because I'm doing what makes me happy.

I'm not quite sure what your point is, you hate women because they want the best? therefore your solution to mentally be ok with this.

Men need to understand the concept of Hypergamy because it lets them know a women's nature, Strongest genes = Goal, men want to spread their genes, the real take away is if you want a monogamous relationship than you aren't being a real man

buddboy · 2018-07-06T12:52:04+00:00

Men may cheat for sex but women will straight up trade one guy for another. Many girls have never been single for a day in their adult life. Men and women have different biological imperatives and their mating strategy is totally different and they absolutely do not cheat in the same way.

Hypergamy isn't about sex it's about commitment and a girls commitment can instantly switch from one guy to another in a way that no man would ever do

vandaalen · 2018-07-06T11:56:02+00:00

We have to stop being so self rigtheous and realize men can be just a shitty as women.

Speak for yourself butt-munch. I am a saint.

Think of this post as an equalizer

Nah. I think of this post of brain-diarrhea by someone in the bargaining phase.

HardPiano · 2018-07-06T12:23:14+00:00

I would never enter into a relationship. Humans are not meant to be monogamous. Men are supposed to spread their seed, and women are supposed to select the best mates to propagate the species. Sure, moral and other modern norms can help restrain a person from acting upon their evolutionary biology which comes into play on a subconscious level, but there's also things which loosen that restraint, like alcohol for example, which allows the primal subconscious side of a human to show itself more.

No thanks. At the end of the day, a human being is a human being. It will be a self serving agent and therefore when it comes down to it, the best way to maintain power over a situation is to not willingly cede any power, as every single relationship is a power struggle, and by entering into a monogamous relationship, you do exactly that. Only an idiot takes a set of aces from their own hand and places it in the hand of others at the table.

uwey · 2018-07-06T12:43:47+00:00

Male narrowed down to single word: SEX. Female word: MORE

skywaspdefensive · 2018-07-06T13:39:42+00:00

Integrity: the slightly autistic cousin of dicipline. Some of us men have it trust me. If you are hyper diciplined you have a good chance of catching some integrity. Sticking to a moral code when there is every reason not to and zero chance of consequences.

The only reward is knowing you are the one in the drivers seat.

cjandstuff · 2018-07-06T13:53:00+00:00

Many religious people want to point to the Bible as God's approval of polygamy.
However, if you actually read it, polygamy NEVER turns out well. It always turns out to be a bad idea.

Fyn689 · 2018-07-06T13:02:38+00:00

Biologically women are built to find one great man and fuck him as much as she can so he won't leave her and to perpetuate the species.

Men are built to fuck as many great women as they can to spread their seed and dominance.

From this very root of purpose I've found that hypergamy as it is in this new feminist world is a deranged version of the original reason why it exists.

I agree with you that by no means should we be angry at women for doing what they do, and this sub clearly explains it. There are tools here to take you out of the anger phase and then build up from there.

However, hypergamy and polygamy are two very different things, in which many men would be glad to provide for two or three women if they behaved rationally and provided their part of their relationship (which is be pretty, fuck me, help this family go forward, not backwards).

Hypergamy relies on using men as disposable, until they hit the wall. Men do this too, but for different reasons, and can definitely be in love with a woman while doing it, which I find women are basically incapable of.

DrBrockStar · 2018-07-06T10:17:48+00:00

Your understanding is wrong - women will fuck a lesser man given opportunity and situation.

Men aren’t butthurt here. We advocate playing the hand your dealt, lifting, and being safe when interacting with women.

And have a solid point next time you post. Your basic rundown of “don’t be mad and we’re all equal really” doesn’t contribute anything meaningful.

RedForEducation · 2018-07-06T15:01:21+00:00

Why do you feel the need to find equivalence in life?

swipedstripes · 2018-07-06T12:10:30+00:00

I agree, when woman talk about men and them being dogs is because they submit to a better man and get fucked over.

The thing is, losers can't be Polygamous. I've got a friend that's a full on beta, he isn't smart but he's 6'4 natural alpha build, decent to good looking, retard strength, but a gentle giant. He has a way of avoiding immediate stress, he's the kind of guy that would go to the beach while he had an exam the next day. When he got a chick he was with that girl for 8 years, she cooked for him, did his homework, helped the doofus through school, he dropped out university and now he's in a sales job.

After 8 years and this chick waiting on a marriage proposal(remember the guy doesn't like stress, so he smoked weed and talked about marrying her but never actually gave her the ring). She went on a self improvement spree, she got thin with a surgery that reduced her stomach size, got her university degree and just went up in life, I suspect the chick got some attention on the side and Hypergamy activated. She demanded a look into his bank account all of a sudden. Well our friend was smoking weed everyday for 6 years without her "knowing" it. And she went nuts, our blue pill friend went full beta and now is trying to please her by asking her to marry him, stopped smoking weed, took out a loan for a nice car, stays with her for 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Of course we all know where this is heading. She's gonna fuck him over, she's gonna cheat, he's beta bucks right now. The guys own mother pleaded with me to help him, the mother recognized the hypergamy and cried in my arms.

I tried to help him but got fucked over, he showed all the texts to the girl. Met the girl at a party I isolated her, held frame and "made" up. She started crying and I didn't fell for it. She recognized it and tried to isolate me from him.

The point i'm trying to make is some guys just can't take risk. They just can't these are the true beta's, they're weak loyal minions to females. She will cheat on him, she's openly disrespecting him, mocking his upbringing, his family and his friends and he's taking it all. The way he's thinking: Hmm if I give her my car, she will be happy. The only thing she asked of him was self improvement.

She wasn't a bad girl, she just went bad. She outgrew him, the way she's playing him is cold. She is from a culture where weed is degenerate so she has a get out of jail free card when she eventually gets caught cheating, she has him as beta bucks and she knows it openly disrespecting him.

This guy can't perform Polygamy, zero risk-taking, zero loyalty to his friends and family, not enough intellect and no urge of self improvement. A man has to be made. Polygamy only can be performed when there is abundance. I've come to accept that a little Polygamy is a necessary evil. Woman will only respect you and your opinion more when they see you can game them. If we look at the 20/80 principle, true abundance in males is rare, females will rather share a high value male as it directly relates to hypergamy. High value man will fuck whats on their path and will fuck over a female without mercy. A beta just can't.

mechz21 · 2018-07-06T12:58:55+00:00

Feminists agree that it's a good thing a girl traded up because she 'deserves better' .

Redpillers agree that men need 1000 women because we are biologically hardwired to spread our genes and shit.

I don't see any difference in both conversations tbh. Both are looking for a best way to spread their genetic material 'hypothetically'

yesbuthereswhy · 2018-07-06T13:48:38+00:00

Couldn’t agree more.

I’m happily married with sex on demand but there is another phat ass girl at my gym that I would gladly take to pound town. I used to beat myself up for feeling this way. Then I realized that this behavior is normal and that the married men who claim they don’t have wandering eyes are liars. Married women and even my wife will never admit that they secretly want another man too. It’s part of our internal hardwiring that’s locked away for when we need it.

We’re all pretending like monogamy works but statistics say otherwise. I don’t hate or dislike my wife’s hypergamy. It’s not her fault just as it’s not mine. The only thing we can do as men is be aware of these realities. We use this knowledge to better ourselves by working on our mind and body. I know that I can never control whether my wife will stay with me another 60 years but I can control how I feel about that.

It’s good to see that this post was well received. We can’t discuss male sexual strategy if we don’t be honest about our own desires relative to women’s.

Great post.

Edit. I take that back. Looks like the mods aren’t ready.

sacchidananda · 2018-07-06T13:12:03+00:00

HOWEVER, ISN'T IT ALSO TRUE that we men will hit any hot ass bitch that's a good lay if the consequences are minimal and/or non-existent???

No, not for me, but for most of the guys yes, certainly.

Title	Polygamous behavior in men is equilvalent to Hypergamous behavior
Author	carn_hell
Upvotes	99
Comments	59
Date	July 6, 2018 10:05 AM UTC (8 years ago)
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