Rant Beta Dad—Really??

Soriq · 2015-05-19T01:36:40+00:00

I don't have "daddy issues" but there will naturally be people in this life who have shitty parents.

Just because a parent puts a roof over your head does not make them above criticism.

My mother used to tell me to take her best qualities, take my dads best qualities, and discard the rest.

Our parents are a big part of who we are. Psychology indicates that both parents make up a part of our psyche. It is important to know their flaws so that we do not act out in similar ways under certain circumstances.

I'd say to those posters, if your parent was a complete asshole, fuck em', let it go, move on and live your life. But if your dad was just beta because he was misled as most men are, don't hold that against him but learn from him and be grateful you found TRP

moodyprism · 2015-05-19T01:33:58+00:00

Firstly, TRP is about personal accountability, but even the most ardent proponents of free will and accountability will admit there are certain things beyond our control. Especially when we are children. If you are raised by a beta father chances are more than likely you are going to pick up ideas, mannerisms, and strategies that are beta without even realizing it. I think it's something worth talking about.

Secondly, if we're talking about the last thread, I don't think he was being overly disrespectful to his father. Many threads I see on TRP about beta dads always follow the tune of "I respect my father but I see the error in his ways and don't want to be like him, help me achieve that". I've never seen this elusive thread where a user just shits all over their father and tells them they're worthless for reddit to laugh at. But maybe I just missed it.

R_E_D_1 · 2015-05-19T01:45:43+00:00

It was only after reading a shit ton of TRP and personal testimonies did I realize that my dad had extraordinarily strong female energy that left a small trail of influence in my own dealings with women. I'm glad when people post stories on how they notice the BP shit in their family members. It helped me diagnose some of my own bullshit. I guarantee it helps others.

And so what if the tone is shitty? Everyone's working through their own stage of TRP acceptance. So long as they make a cohesive thought that's all I care about since I only give a fuck about the validity of the info provided.

MentORPHEUS · 2015-05-19T02:13:24+00:00

I think a lot of people go through a phase of hating their parents as young adults. For better or worse, its a part of forming ones own identity apart from them.
It's okay, though. Next, you come to understand them. Next after that... you might become them!

Regarding ones parents, keep your words nice and sweet, lest you have to eat them some day.

Spiral-knight · 2015-05-19T02:32:10+00:00

I've seen perhaps one of these "my father, the beta" posts, and it read as an observation of BP behavior

QQ_L2P · 2015-05-19T06:58:13+00:00

Lol, OP, why are you so mad? What on earth is going on with the grammar, punctuation and sentence structure in your post? Do you honestly expect people to read what you just shat out onto the submission textbox in a fit of impotent rage?

Put it this way, those "snot nosed kids" just found out they got let down by someone, they got let down really fucking hard. It makes sense that they're angry at them. It makes even more sense that when their fathers have BP outbursts and double down with their BP behaviour, it's annoying to see. It's hard to watch what was once your role model have a spotlight cast upon them and see all the wrinkles and warts.

So you know what, fuck you. If your advice is to "go do it yourself" and immediately jump out into the world with nothing, you're an even bigger idiot than the BP dad. At this point, my father is a resource which I can use to further my own ambition. I'm not going to fuck up my future or my goals by listening to some faggot on an internet forum who doesn't know how to type in full sentences.

drunkandstoned · 2015-05-19T09:14:23+00:00

You know I am beginning to think that I have a very narrow understanding of TRP….I don’t want to over simply..but the way I have interpreted TRP can be sumed up in 2 words...personal accountability

You are right, you do have a very narrow understanding of TRP. TRP is a school of thought for understanding human behavior, particularly relating to sexual strategy, but that touches on pretty much every facet of social interaction. The role a father plays in developmental psychology for a child is crucial (especially for the transition to puberty and adulthood). If your dad was a shitty dad, you need to accept that as a fact (and understand what aspects of BP conditioning or other circumstances caused him to fail as a father so that you don't repeat those mistakes), but also not carry emotional baggage about it. I would guess many of the people here have more of a problem with their ex-wife's dad than their own.

Shitting on your father is anger phase. Realizing your father was shit, but not giving a shit is on the right path to fully unplugging.

nolightspared · 2015-05-19T02:52:59+00:00

This is a meta post. It's really only a rant in that it's emotionally driven and poorly organised.

Could you please provide a few examples of these posts that you have seen?

CognitiveVortex · 2015-05-19T05:37:55+00:00

OP is full of shit. How can you make such general statements related to every single persons situation?

Providing resources for your children is literally the bare minimum and there are a myriad of fathers who do this and yes they can still be shitty parents.

Should you use a lack of (or poor example of) a father figure as an excuse? No of course not, but looking back on your most formative years to see where you learned certain traits of behaviours is very beneficial.

Dr_HoaxArthurWilmoth · 2015-05-19T09:12:07+00:00

"Apologist" here. Let's see how we can "Grow the fuck up".

Man has numerous failed relationships, continues to investigate it logically, researching, doesn't realize that he is trying to figure out the rules to an imaginary game.

Somehow, someway, he finds himself here at TRP and he swallows the pill.

He becomes retrospective and more observant via "red-tinted" lenses. Realizes that he actually did not have a strong male figure in his dad and beta behavior was inadvertently passed on to him.

Man feels differently towards his parents because he now views and processes all relationships and social interactions via a whole new set of beliefs, compared to his past 30 years on earth.

Man acknowledges harsh truths, files it away in his knowledge bank, feels anger/empathy/disappointment that father did not know the game or teach the man the game. Man accepts what cannot be changed, moves on, continues to self improve.

Man sees someone posting article about Beta dad, becomes infuriated that someone is working through their anger period, creates post white knighting all dads. Does not even link to actual post.

Continuously uses "...", which is an automatic red flag to me when I see any author using this device in writing, it means that person puts words to the keyboard with no real care or reflection, not unlike vomit splashing....on...the...sidewalk.

fasterpussycatdie · 2015-05-19T13:36:57+00:00

This forum is populated by young men.

All young men go through a period in their lives when they realize that their father is not superman and doesn't know everything.

Part of becoming your own man, is coming to the realization that your father is just a man.

The "my beta dad" posts are a manifestation of that.

MicroMinion · 2015-05-19T04:16:26+00:00

Yeah wow they put food into my mouth and bought me a bed, whoop ti fucking doo dah. There's a reason parents have kids: because they want to.

The actual goal is to raise successful offspring, not raise some delusional kid who thinks you can woe women by white knighting his way into their panties. And it doesn't only pertain to women! Our whole social group and educational motivation is usually dependent on how we were raised. Our parents are responsible for most of our education, manners and behavior.

It's like the old Chinese saying goes: give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he'll eat for a lifetime.

Dev_on · 2015-05-19T12:18:20+00:00

I agree with this one.

Worked in the navy, and at fleet school, we had that rule. Whatever shit we had to say about co workers... not in front of the students. Even the students knew the rule, and went about calling out errant PO's who would bitch about their MSs

Title	Rant Beta Dad—Really??
Author	alpinehighest
Upvotes	3
Comments	16
Date	May 19, 2015 1:26 AM UTC (11 years ago)
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