Red Pill: New Evolutionary Theory

Broseidon241 · 2014-12-19T22:20:12+00:00

Psychologist here.

Short answer: no. Not at all. Silly thing to think.

We can fantasize because our forebrains can make things seem real. The REAL benefit of this is future planning and prediction, which gives us the world we live in today. We can attach reward to things that aren't real (future states, say), and can motivate ourselves that way.

Sexual fantasy is just us running a little subroutine to trick older brain structures into reacting as though something is actually happening.

Any positive fantasy is mental masturbation - a puppet show for older, dumber brain structures that can't know any better.

If you're an actual researcher and would like to gather data, definitely have at it. Just don't jerk yourself off being an armchair psychologist - that gets you nowhere. And check scholar.google.com first - if you've thought of it, someone else may have years ago.

EDIT: You talk about cheating like it's just something that happens. "Would you be more likely to cheat?" What? You have control over that. You're a human being, have some impulse control and the 'chance' of cheating is zero. It's up to what you decide.

Cyralea · 2014-12-19T16:45:42+00:00

You need to consider the respective optimal mating strategies for each gender. For women, it's obtaining the DNA of the single highest quality male she can find (hypergamy), and finding the protection and provision of whatever males she can requisition.

For men, it's impregnating as many females as possible while providing protection and provision for a small number. Distributing ones attention and resources thins out the benefit each child receives.

Given this, you can see the basis for both AF/BB and men being players/adopting harems. Highly successful men historically would have had a combination of a wife and concubines. For women, once she has borne a child, the DNA of her current mate is irrelevant if it is not currently the best she can obtain. This hypergamy ensures she continually gets better DNA with every successive child. These are the dominant strategies insofar as DNA propagation goes.

Pair-bonding evolved as a mechanism to encourage men to temporarily provide for a child during formative years. You need something to curb the desire to spread your seed as much as possible, as that is a lesser strategy than temporary provision. For women, pair-bonding encourages her to stick around with a potential provider so that a child may thrive, rather than immediately seek better DNA and leave that child to his own devices.

Once a child is past his formative years, it's not in a man's optimal mating strategy to stick around, nor is it a woman's. By fucking new women he is more likely to pass on his genes than someone who is monogamous for life. The same is essentially true of women who abandon an of-age child to seek better DNA.

As a woman, mate-guarding (which is what denying access to porn and female friends is) is a mechanism to prevent him from being poached by another female, and thereby lose her provision. Her psychological state wouldn't have been factored into her genetic propagation.

SuperSlavisWife · 2014-12-21T19:03:57+00:00

The male brain's desire for variety is so easily overridden that most men who have a healthy sex drive (ie: want sex at least every other day and not much more than three times a day when they are getting it) can finish having sex with a woman, have her get into different coloured underwear and physically respond with the same intensity as if an entirely different, sexually receptive woman had walked into the room.

Male fantasizing, desire and polygyny is hard to analyze when you bear that in mind.

Considering the above, it is possible that a man watching porn could help him alleviate any desire for more women. However so could a variety of undies and regular sex with the odd roleplay. Likewise, using your theory men should be able to keep their desire for polygyny satisfied using the only form of erotica available to our primitive ancestors: your imagination. Which would mean that restricting access to porn should have no effect at all.

Observed as just a biological process, modern porn habits posit a fairly strong argument for the stereotypical "porn addiction", which we know not to be true. However it is undeniable that men without access to porn are often monogamous (albeit serially) out of choice and that men with access to porn suffer greatly from its removal. Perhaps the modern obsession with men watching or not watching porn has created an environment of prohibition where porn is perceived as more rewarding than it would be otherwise? In short, our fixation on it has made porn a desirable object in and of itself. But then we're getting into philosophical issues, rather than psychological ones.

crispy3 · 2015-01-02T09:38:14+00:00

dude; i think youre spot on. its like reverse psychology. if your wife FORBIDS you from watching porn, youre still gonna do it, you just have to be sneaky... the resentment is just going to build...

tombreck2 · 2014-12-19T16:32:13+00:00

Porn, online dating and video games are vices for beta males.

Take your typical guy, put him in the 1950s where he had to approach and call women and he would be terrified.

Dev_on · 2014-12-19T17:41:17+00:00

Every time I see Dr. Scientist Redpill on here I cringe.

None of this matters man, trying to figure out the 'why' isn't going to help, and will really just be looking for reasons to justify your worldview after the fact.

Just deal with it as it is, if it's not the kind of thing that helps you interact better, or improve yourself more... then it's not worth the time

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