Strength even if you cheat.

TL;DR: Slighted women will take advantage of your weakness.

I'm on Netflix re-watching "The Kennedy's" one of my favorite documentaries/dramas, you should watch it if you haven't. On episode five, Joe Kennedy, the father of JFK has a stroke after getting some bad news. When it comes to women Joe Kennedy is just an older JFK, the guy was fucking his secretary well into his 60's. After he gets out of the hospital Mrs. Kennedy takes care of him, but her anger of his past infidelity starts to manifest itself and pushes her to mistreat him as he's in his weaker state.

When Joe was strong, walking around, taking care of business his wife didn't do anything. Was she hurt? Sure. Angry even? Of course, but she never acted on it until she saw his weakness. I started thinking about this and realized it wasn't the first time I've seen this happen.

There's another movie called "Madea's Diary of a Mad Black Woman that followed the same theme. This guy was a little more extreme, he did the shit right in her face and kicked his wife out the house at the same time he moved the new girl in, it was rough. The woman fought a little, screamed but she was still the victim until this man got into a car accident and became paralyzed from the neck down.

His wife also decided to care for him, but made it the worst time of his life while she did. Did he deserve it? Sure, but it's interesting that all that anger and hate both these women had for these men were swallowed until they saw physical weakness in them. I'm sure there are more examples, these were they ones that came to me.

Lessons learned:

Your girl/wife never wants you to lose the skill that got her in the first place, she just doesn't want you to use it.
Plates a plate, don't screw over your wife
These cases were extreme, but never lose your strength.

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cheat and want to leave

Regardless of your "reasons" for cheating on a spouse or wanting to ditch the arrangement, if you're operating within a predefined social structure and you suddenly decide to buck that social structure (e.g. cheat in a marriage), then yes, you probably deserve to be treated terribly by the social structure you refused to respect.

shit, he probably "deserved" it even when he had the power, but the reason why he didn't get too much disrespect was because of the power.

I'm not arguing about the morality of cheating, but it's akin to breaking the law: if you go to a different country where you will be killed for speaking bad about the country's leader, it would be wise of you to act the part rather than strutting around with an attitude of "I don't deserve to be killed just because of your shitty laws."

It's okay to marry and then cheat, but you're going to be extra fucked when the power isn't in your hands, and yes you deserve the bed you made because you knew the rules.

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It's not society's responsibility to inform of you of the reality behind the facade. And if you believe they should, then, well, you should probably just go over and join your should friends at TBP or 2X.

The reality is that the apparent rules are laid out for you and you choose to play the game. Yes, this is BP. Of course it's a bait-and-switch, but the RP men see this and instead play a different game on an entirely different court.

Considering the RP game isn't even socially acceptable, you can't start by playing the BP game and then suddenly switch courts and switch rules and strut around going "omg i'm so rp LMAO xD cheating on my wife, so alpha, fukken sloots gonna sloot" and expect positive results.

When the legal system is fucking you out of 100% of your shit for cheating, that is certainly not the moment to start talking about how society has made you the victim. Nah brah, we all know that marriage blows and I personally know firsthand about what that mistake entails, but its with that firsthand knowledge that I can say that I fucked up big and made my own bed in that regard.

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Actually yes, it is society's job not to mislead people. If you assign any function at all to society, then quality of life for its members is one of its functions. And lying to people always diminishes their quality of life. In this case however, it is increasing female quality of life over the male.

In terms of "choice to play the game", then again I disagree. The game is played by rules that are hidden from men. You cannot blame men for making faulty choices when all their information is faulty, due to the lies they are told.

I am not advocating a victim complex. I am suggesting that men accept they've been sold a lie and act accordingly within the framework as it is. If you were led to believe you'll have great sex in marriage, and then you don't have but you can't leave - you've every right to cheat on her. And given that women who go off sex are usually getting it elsewhere, you really should.

It's good that you personally take responsibility for your choices, but to say it was all your fuckup is to exonerate society from the lies it presented to you.

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What the social justice fuck did I just read.

If you assign any function at all to society, then quality of life for its members is one of its functions. And lying to people always diminishes their quality of life

First and foremost, the function that society clearly fills is the manipulation of the weak for the betterment of the strong. Not just human society, though, but even societies in the animal kingdom. Do you think the other dogs in a pack think it's fair that they're not the alpha?

I don't blame men for making the faulty choices, but the ones that do are the weak that are being manipulated. If you really feel like placing blame, it is the fault of the strong who are manipulating the weak, but regardless it's a function of biology and society as I mentioned above. The weak get fucked.

If you were led to believe you'll have great sex in marriage, and then you don't have but you can't leave - you've every right to cheat on her

Every right? Oh jesus christ, I can't even take it.

Going back to my country analogy from earlier... you're sitting in this other country and you're saying "I have every right to speak my mind, because that's how it should be, and that's how it is in my home country!" Yeah, okay. Except nobody fucking cares what you say, because you haven't changed shit about the situation. Clearly.

I don't exonerate society one bit, but I know without a doubt that society doesn't owe me shit, that I was lied to in order to be taken advantage of, and being angry at this mysterious "society" figure is displaced hatred that is better redirected to yourself. Society takes advantage of you and lies to you because YOU let it. That's the whole point of TRP. To grab the situation, flip the switch, and take advantage of your place in it.

Instead, you're blaming 'society' and saying that it 'shouldn't lie to people'? No, man. You're fucking weak. You're getting fucked. And guess what, nobody even gives a shit, because you're a man. Does it suck? Yeah, but the cards have been dealt, it's up to you to bluff your way through or just be a little bitch about how much it sucks for you.

TRP endorsed? What a fucking joke. Grow a pair.

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It's odd that you say "the strong are entitled to take advantage of the weak" but also say that a man in a marriage shouldn't cheat.

Shouldn't? I never said shouldn't.

I said society will fuck you. And fuck you they will. You will be fucked if you cheat and your wife finds out. You will be fucked by your wife with the support of her friends and family. You will be fucked by the courts. You may even be fucked by your own family and your own cuckold friends.

So like in everything else, be smart. But you do not "deserve" to cheat (even if you have been lied to, manipulated, and kept as a beta your whole life), nor do you "deserve" to have society's blessing based on how your wife may have acted. These things are not reality. This is how 2X thinks and posts and projectile vomits. This is how they hamster their continuous disregard for anyone but themselves: (he was disgusting, I DESERVED to take 80% of our money).

I have 3-4 plates, they do not know about each other. If they did, some would not be happy. I am breaking society's rules. I should not expect them to be okay with me sleeping with other women. Still, I diffuse every situation in which they ponder or try to explore the subject. But never does it cross my mind to think "hey, you can slut it up and nobody bats an eye, why can't I do the same?" I know the risks I take, and I know exactly why I do what I do. I don't have to muddy my logic with shoulds and coulds and supposed to's.

It isn't about right or wrong. It's about what is and is not. Society fucks you when they find out you cheated. That's the reality. Society isn't wrong, it just is.

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Pretty much this. I actually saw the movie "Madea's Diary of a Mad Black Woman" and I can tell you the woman was a complete mess and the man tried so hard to be nice about yet she refused.

Here's what REALLY happened in the movie

Spoiler ahead obviously

Woman suspects man to be cheating.
Man spills the beans about cheating and wanting to break up, and arranges a U-Haul truck to take here ANYWHERE she want's to go. He asks her nicely to go.
Woman falls out of the floor acting like a little brat claiming she won't go.
Man forces the woman out.
Later on in the film Woman sneaks into Man's house and destroys his clothing and furniture. She then proceeds to attempt to steal money from him.

That was ridiculous, the woman literally was acting like a child. The man didn't hit or even abuse her. All he did was ask her nicely to leave and she does all this. Shame.

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Title	Strength even if you cheat.
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Date	November 26, 2015 10:34 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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