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The Worst Advice Ever For Strong Men

GaiusScaevolus
December 12, 2013
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Title The Worst Advice Ever For Strong Men
Author

GaiusScaevolus
Upvotes 17
Comments 18
Date December 12, 2013 12:57 AM UTC
(12 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/TheRedPill
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[–]Moresolater10 points11 points12 points 12 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

This reminds of an interesting philosophical concept know as perfect injustice (as defined by Thrasymachus in The Republic). The concept is that if everyone could be perfectly unjust, meaning reap all the advantages that injustice brings (taking advantage of the weak, robbing, lying) while still appearing to be just they would. To illustrate his point Thrasymachus uses a story called the Ring of Gyges. In this story a shepherd finds a ring that allows him invisibility (the LOTR trilogy was partly based on this fable). He uses the ring to commit great acts of injustice such as killing the king and making himself king. The moral of the story is that if one CAN get away with injustice they sure as hell will. As further proof of this my philosophy teacher asked how many people in the class would honestly utilize the ring 90+% of the class answered they would. Not surprisingly the remaining ten percent were all female (AKA hamstering that they wouldn't use it or trying to save face to the professor)

[–]destraht1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In the Lord of the Rings the character Tom Bombadil puts on the evil ring and just laughs at it because he was already immune to those sorts of desires.

[–]christiefrontdrive 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Thanks for posting this little story, it makes a lot of sense to me. This is kinda goofy but I remember when I was a youngster and we had to read the Harry Potter books in school, I realized at about 11 or 12 that if I had an invisibility cloak like Harry did at the same age, I would almost definitely use it for evil.

Maybe not cartoony kinds of evil but at 11, I couldn't imagine any scenario where I had the ability to become invisible where I wouldn't end up doing terrible shit. Stealing for sure: what would I give a fuck about someone else's presumably hard-earned millions if I could walk into a bank and steal them? Probably not rape or killing or similar shit, but can you really be sure? If you're wielding that kind of power for the rest of your life, can you really know where you will draw the line? If you've been able to turn yourself invisible for 20, 30, maybe 60 years, who knows what you could be capable of? It would be nice to think you'd go around the world, invisible, murdering dictators and serial killers, but it seems unlikely. Even if you did that, it's still scary as fucking hell.

Kind of a dumb story but I think about that day reading Harry Potter at school every now and then because I feel like that kind of supreme evil is locked away in just about everyone and the right set of circumstances can let it out.

[–]ArchangelleFuckOff1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You would enjoy Death Note.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is basically the same idea as Robin Hanson's Homo Hypocritus hypothesis.

[–]Letesse0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely

[–]16 MGaiusScaevolus[S] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Power corrupts. Absolute power is kind of neat" -John Lehman

[+]NoMoreNicksLeft-6 points-5 points-4 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I would not use the ring, at least as you suggest. Why would I want to kill the king and take the throne? That sounds like a miserable existence. How could one be happy doing something like that?

Strong men don't need to cheat and manipulate, they don't need the trappings of wealth or power. Only the weak want these things, because their weakness isn't physical but in their heads, and their weak minds reach the conclusion that they will finally be strong if only they do horrible things.

But they never become strong. The end up nothing more than weak men who do horrible things.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You just won the award for spergiest comment of the month.

[–]Moresolater1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wasn't advocating using the ring to become king only using it in general. For example at six flags I would definitely use that shit to cut lines. And you seem to be taking the stoic mindset that is, if I only focus on the internals (having a strong mind) then I don't need any of the externals (the trappings of wealth/power). A KEY problem with the majority of philosophy, stoicism included, is the assumption of dualism between the mind and body. Unfortunately science has proven that the mind IS the body. So no you don't have a weak mind, you literally do have a weak body.

[–]TheEyeUrnShaft5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Whiny, feminist bitching will always be a power grab. Never cede what you have to the undeserving. If they want it, they can take it, just like you and I had to do.

[–]lightfire4093 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The analogy to bill gates at the end was a nice touch.

[–]fiat_lux_3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The article discusses the Nash equilibrium of Game Theory. It's quite well-known, so I'm actually surprised that it took me this long to find an article that applies it to gender relationships.

[+]foreverconfused-6 points-5 points-4 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Retarded article. The entire premise is based on assuming the worst of others. Horrible way to live.

[–]RabbiSchlem-4 points-3 points-2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah. The author seems to think that the only reason to do nice things is to have them be repaid. Being nice and caring for the well being of others isn't some business transaction.

He's got a raging hardon for raw animal instinct and power. Guess what? The whole point of civilization is to not behave like that.

If everyone acted like he's suggesting we should, the world would be worse off for it.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The author seems to think that the only reason to do nice things is to have them be repaid.

from the article

If you choose to do good deeds for others, do them because you truly want to.

.

The whole point of civilization is to not behave like that.

its not. aslo civilization doesnt have a point. there is no meaning to it.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah the praise for these guys is pathetic. I like TRP but not this over simplified pseudo-intellectual political theory. It's fucking stupid, just a circlejerk

[+][deleted] -7 points-6 points-5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I recommend the author do some proofing before posting the blog.

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