What it really means when she says "I shouldn't do this" on the first date

elchief99 · 2017-09-05T20:15:14+00:00

I went out w a chick that said she didn't fuck on the first date, so I told her to call me at midnight (same day) for a second date and she did and she came over and we fucked

SpawnOfCowboyNeal · 2017-09-05T18:15:55+00:00

I like "even a good girl should have a chance to be bad every now and again" as a response to that kind of ST

disusernameisnttaken · 2017-09-05T17:04:01+00:00

Be careful though, rape charges are around the corner.

math_cutter · 2017-09-05T19:03:30+00:00

This is a very complicated matter, all situations are different.

Thankfully, you usually play them all the same.

I'll just inject my random thoughts:

Always push for the fuck? Think again. When I was a younger buck, I thought the purpose of seduction itself was to get as many notches as possible. However, I'll be the probably one of the first to say: slow down and think sometimes. Work mate? Someone you shouldn't be fooling with? Your place has condom wrappers on the floor from the last girl (yes, I was an idiot before). Girl is a virgin who you'll get entangled with and go through a messy dump with? Sometimes it just ain't worth it. When you're hard up for sex, it's inconceivable to turn down sex with a hot girl who's willing. Still, I say think. It might actually not be worth it 5-10% of the time.

Okay on to the actual seduction advice now. There are essentially three types of girls who will say 'we shouldn't be doing this'. Well, maybe not 3 types, but 3 "reasons" why they are saying it.

Reason One: It's actual 'last minute resistance' -- and the girl is on the fence about you, or honestly doesn't want to sleep with you, just make out and stuff. Honestly, I haven't experienced this since college. It's very naive (and a dick move) to get naked in a man's bed, and not want to have sex, for real. That doesn't mean you're "entitled" to it - don't rape anybody obviously, shit. I might suggest to "freeze her out" to try to manipulate her, but honestly, fuck it. If she doesn't like you that much, and disrespects you, is naive, (prob bad at sex too) ... just cut her loose. Don't even play games. Tell her you need to get up early and kick her out. Just say nothing personal, you're looking for sex (not in a blackmail way), farewell.

Reason Two: The girl thinks guys "like to hear this." She doesn't want to appear easy or is insecure about that. Or conversely, it's still a complete lie, but it's her own fantasy "to be taken" by a man. When this actually happens, you can usually sorta-tell it's fake. The resistance is in fact thin as paper. STILL, just to cover your ass, and on the off-chance your social radar is completely retarded (common among males)/ slash you're drunk/ slash unsure. Well anyway, just stop instantly. Even if the resistance she is putting up is real lame. She'll usually be annoyed you aren't enacting her fantasy and beg for your dick about 10 seconds later. That's the ropes, first time you're having sex, gotta be careful.

Reason Three: She wants to have sex but is legitimately concerned because she's been burned in the past, think you will "pump and dump"/ cut and run/ be a one-night-stand, and are feeding her the bullshit she wants to hear, just to get a taste and vanish next morning. Well, personally I like to be honest about what I'm doing (whether I'm looking to date, or just stay casual) - but I won't be the ethics police. Here, same situation. Just stop instantly and say "we don't have to do anything you don't want to do."

Counterintuitive here, but if you push-push-push, she'll become defensive, like you're a sleazy salesman. Just stop and pull-away and be okay with it (don't pout). The prospect of sex going away will make her want it. It's kind of like a cat. You need to pull the yarn away, not kick the yarn in it's face.

So yeah. In every situation, just deactivate the Omega 13. Power down. Unfortunately if the girl is Category 1, naive and not out for sex ... it's too much of a hassle to change her mind. You've had bad luck. (again, this is mostly just college girls or younger).

Aesthetik_1 · 2017-09-05T18:07:07+00:00

"Dont fall for this shit" so what is the proper reaction?

OGlancellannister · 2017-09-05T19:17:03+00:00

"I shouldn't do this," and "I'm not that type of girl," are one and the same to me. It's just her providing plausible deniability that she's not a slut, and signalling to you that she's worth your time. Good read on the provider vibe; women will make a man work harder for sex if he's boyfriend material, rather than if she has him slotted in her mind as a one off lover.

I've often had great success dealing with this using agree and amplify techniques. "You're right, we shouldn't do this, you're such a bad girl," as I kiss her and then initiate push-pull. "We should probably just be friends," Said with a smirk after you bite her neck and grab her ass.

feminazis_stalk_me · 2017-09-05T17:51:32+00:00

"You're right. We should probably just be friends".

Then pull out your phone. If she asks what you're doing, tell her you're just texting some friends, seeing what's up.

strikethrough123 · 2017-09-05T18:36:50+00:00

One time I had a girl that loved saying no. It blew my mind how many no's I got. I would be on top of her and go in for a kiss and she would say no then attack my face, I'd tell her to suck my dick and she would say no then she'd lunge for it. The lesson is, fuck what she says. Look at her body language. If her eyes are screaming for you to fuck her and she's giving you some bullshit, ignore it. BUT, if she looks absolutely repulsed then back away immediately.

oldslut · 2017-09-05T22:06:39+00:00

"we really shouldn't be..." "you're right, we're terrible"

bluerue2 · 2017-09-05T21:03:41+00:00

Just talk to her, ask her why. Communication makes things so much easier and more transparent.

Weefilly · 2017-09-05T21:56:45+00:00

What do you think of "it's too early(in the relationship/dating) for that" ?

doctorsugar1 · 2017-09-06T12:45:00+00:00

The language matters less compared to the message. If she's saying this while already on your bed, then the message she's trying to pass across to you is that "please reassure me that I am not a slut/cheap"

You can use whichever language, doesn't matter. Just reassure her with few words as much as possible. Don't wait for response. Thereafter keep making out

GOATmar · 2017-09-06T01:02:31+00:00

"i'm not that type of girl!"

Answer: "This could be trouble... because Im that type of guy." Smirk and continue escalating.

If she hits you with "no we shouldnt do this!", agree yet continue escalating, while saying some bullshit like "I know, i dont know why I cant stop touching you... what the hell, did you do witchcraft on me girl?"

Always keep it light and and make sure youre not giving off no gay BF vibe, which is what triggers this type of last-minute resistance.

It's also important to note that if she gets serious and say Stop/No, especially firmly after you tried playing it all off, you stop. Get up, go do something else. Go cold on her. Try again later.

Title	What it really means when she says "I shouldn't do this" on the first date
Author	ForeverMaverick
Upvotes	57
Comments	54
Date	September 5, 2017 4:37 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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