What's the difference between this place and /r/MensRights?

shitakefunshrooms · 2013-01-03T19:11:26+00:00

Found this by way of Roosh and ROK. Hope this is more successful than the abomination that is /r/MensRights mainly because people whine too much there without doing anything. Seddit is okay, but it doesnt acknowledge the root problem.

I particularly liked your introductory posts, focus on acknowledging reality. A lot PUA types focus on 'mindsets' and 'inner game'. and while that may be incredibly important, ive found action prompts inner development as well.

Currently looking at the 50th law, and i have to say, it's incredibly relevant to the reality of eyes open red pill life. (highly recommended)

It's not about getting angry or bitching about this or that, it's a game. A game that we want to win.

pk_atheist · 2013-01-03T15:53:18+00:00

I think I said it best in the introduction, http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/12v1hf/almost_a_hundred_subscribers_welcome_newcomers/

That post outlines how we differ from men's rights and seddit.

It's important to note that men's rights does a lot to ensure their narrative conforms to the greater feminine imperative. We, however, do not strive for political correctness, and instead opt for reality.

squarehouse · 2013-01-04T03:13:28+00:00

To be as clear and concrete as possible, this is the Reddit arm of the manosphere: A series of interlinked blogs, web forums that discuss not just game, but the sexual politics and sexual economics of relationships and marriages from a male point of view.

This place isn't Mens Rights at all, which just tries to be inverse feminism: To do for men what feminism does for women. The difference between us and Mens Rights is that we're not progressives, we believe the difference between the sexes is stamped in nature. It is in fact the feminine imperative which is the real social construct that is operative here, not the fact that women are maternal by nature, desire dominant men even when they treat them bad, and that the vast majority of men are, and have always been, betas, the real work horses of society, but are disposable by nature.

We're not particularly friendly towards the vast majority of men either: We don't console and coddle, we tell it like it is. We don't sugar-coat the truth. Swallow the red pill, don't chew.

WolfInClothing · 2013-01-03T22:49:15+00:00

From what I've seen the biggest difference is individualism vs collectivism. During my time lurking there, it always seemed like a lot of we/society should do/be X. The only exception being, do not get married.

Here, and on most of the blogs that seem to be promoting it (Roosh) the focus seems to be "what can I do to make the most out of the life in front of me?"

edit: I guess I should clarify that the individualistic nature is more of an expectation and a hope than it is a description. This sub is still young enough that it's too early to tell what it will be.

PaterOmnipotens · 2013-01-04T04:53:44+00:00

Men's Rights is not inverse feminism, it IS feminism. Their logo is equality of the sexes. Thinking of the sexes as equal or not equal is playing to feminist framing - if you don't believe women should be identical to men, then you must believe that men and women are different, that one must be superior and one must be inferior, that separate is inherently unequal, yadda yadda yadda, so you're a misogynist. It sounds retarded, but that's their basic line of illogic.

Further, Men's Rights types despise masculinity. They see encouraging men to be manly as a form of exploitation and oppression, just as feminists do when someone encourages women to be feminine. A leading MRA said exactly this to me.

MRA's are obsessed with a narrative presenting men as victims. That's why their favorite hobby horses are male circumcision and rape of men, even though practically no one gives a fuck about those issues. They'd rather pitch themselves as victims than have a message that resonates with men.

The pity whore brand of Men's Rights advocacy will never be successful, because few men want to openly identify as victims.

lucidavid · 2013-01-04T04:41:55+00:00

Men's Right is about trying to change the environment of Gender Rights. The Red Pill is about you as a person adapting to the environment you're in.

Title	What's the difference between this place and /r/MensRights?
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Date	January 3, 2013 3:38 PM UTC (13 years ago)
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