Working for a female

redpilldude · 2014-02-17T20:07:11+00:00

I'm not sure exactly how you would apply RP knowledge to your boss....

Generally, having a female boss is harder than a male boss because women tend to evaluate people more subjectively than objectively (from my experience). They will often promote their close friends rather than promote the high achievers. Women are also more likely to have difficulty separating their personal feelings from their professional feelings. For example, if you have a professional disagreement with a man, you can usually still be good friends with him. With a woman, however, they tend to take everything personally. And, if you disagree with a woman, it probably will affect your friendship.

robesta · 2014-02-17T20:25:08+00:00

I've considered making a thread on this several times. For starters, I think you need to evaluate the dominant frame your female boss sees work through.

The male frame is task oriented. The female frame is relationship oriented. Most women adopt the female frame, however, not all do. A good test is whether she is more concerned about being "fair" to everyone or concerned about overall production.

If she has the female frame, you have to realize that she is more concerned about perception than reality. She will not value the truth over her feelings. Don't trust that she will back you up. She will make decisions based upon what is popular amongst the team. She will want input from everybody. She will not make decisions on a vacuum.

General_Fear · 2014-02-18T03:24:22+00:00

My experience with women bosses have been mixed. But the majority of female bosses have been bad. And others have told me the same. Women bosses are the worst. Why?

Women in the past were not taken seriously. So they have to claw their way to the top. And one way to do that is to be tougher than men. This is why so many women bosses act like bitches on wheels.

If you can, get everything via email. The last woman boss changed her mind every 5 seconds. I was going to demand her instructions in writing. But she was let go.

Then when you finish your job, get a confirmation in writing that you completed the task.

TRP talks about the hamster. Well the hamster is not limited to dating. The inability to think straight is also problem. Just like a girlfriend. They will jump from idea to idea. Hence why I said get your instructions in writing. Women bosses expect you to read their minds just like a typical girlfriend.

I hate working for a woman boss. They are usually impossible to please, bitchy, fickle. Now for the sexist statement. Ready?

Some women slept their way to the top. Other did not use sex, but used their sexuality to get their management position. And they don't know what they are doing. Clueless bosses who only got the job because they are good looking and some Beta male boss thought they might sleep with the woman. This happened to me. Some waitress got to be my boss only because she was hot. She knew nothing about the job.

the_colon_poweler · 2014-02-17T20:08:16+00:00

Well as most Red Piller's state time and time again, the female gender tends to go on how they "feel" at any given moment instead of being based on actual logical and factual behavior.

So yes, your presumptions may be correct in that: in one moment she feels like this toward you and in other moments she feels like that toward you.

Only thing I would say is try to see what she has seen in you that makes her feel more positive toward you and play to that.

Manipulating her with her own mismanaged feelings.

gg_s · 2014-02-17T23:47:18+00:00

Maintain context and know your role. This is a workplace, not society at large. Different dynamics are in play. This woman represents the company and it's plentiful resources (masculine role). You represent the worker who is willing to provide use of his able body in exchange for said resources (feminine role).

Trying to out-dominate your boss is like a plate attempting to grab the reins. An abundant man would next her immediately and recruit a replacement. Likewise, your boss has a large pool of prospective employees at hand. No sooner would she have you nexted and replaced than put up with your power plays.

Yeah, it sucks having to submit to a woman, but in the context of your workplace, she's your superior first and a woman second. Maintain context. Know your role. She holds jurisdiction, like it or leave it. Attempt to subvert her authority at your own risk. If you succeed, come back and post a FR.

asd1100 · 2014-02-18T12:13:59+00:00

Own your shit, be the best guy for your position. Learn how your activity relates to others around the company, learn and anticipate how and what your direct supervisor wants.

Make him shine, he is your alpha(he can be a total beta ass hole, it doesn't matter, you play with what cards you have, in this context you need to work together) do not compete with him. Be nothing but professional to the vp, you don't register as a male for her, stop trying, you are a worker, excel at it.

Make sure your manager's progress reaches the President ears. Don't do it yourself, let the "company whispers" do it. If he's a bro, you will be mentioned, if hes not, he will stumble and you won't "be able" to catch him. Lucky for the vp you know his job in your sleep and don't require any training.

TVTestPattern · 2014-02-18T18:58:30+00:00

Run...

Is it possible you will be effective manipulating your female boss to your advantage?

Sure it is...

Magic 8 ball says. "Not Likely" though. I have had 2 female bosses both of whom were nightmares. I nexted not only my (F) bosses, but the companies as well. I'm a rockstar at what I do and don't want to work for a woman or a company that would put me in that position.

Got large raises both times with better companies and more interesting work.

Run.

fasterfind · 2014-02-22T14:59:35+00:00

Anyone in management who isn't a total shit, can handle candid straight talk. Communicate with her the same as you would a guy.

JP_Whoregan · 2014-02-18T01:37:47+00:00

To hijack from another comment I made earlier today:

I'd rather slam my nuts in a car door than ever work for a female ever again.

2014-02-18T01:45:19+00:00

Working for a female boss can be hell on earth, because they're more subtly manipulative than men by nature.

My advice is to keep your head down, take a page from Robert Greene and don't outshine the master, and look for a way out from under her.

2014-02-17T23:22:23+00:00

I have a cute girl who is teaching me everything I know. I know for a fact that I can exceed her in every way but I have more tact than to call her out on it... directly.

The thing is, she's rather pretty (8/10) on a good day. She is validated by every male coworker that I have. So, I do the opposite. I remain courteous, cold, and professional towards her. I don't seek her validation, as my results are proof enough of my competence.

Despite the fact that she's a girl, she has more experience than me, and I will learn as much as I can from her... before replacing her.

sexowlinyourwindow · 2014-02-18T02:35:51+00:00

My problem is that I seem to get the vibe on occasion that she doesn't have high regard for me or my abilities as it relates to my position. I am pretty good at what I do and have the respect of my manager and colleagues. Sometimes its the opposite and I think I'm in good standing. It's ever changing.

I know women do this, but I even worked for a guy who does it. It fucks with everyone's head around him. I would guess that in her head, your are somehow to blame for some problem of hers on her bad days. You might think you are doing great, but she WILL fuck you over some day if it's convenient.

Not that you don't know that

bovice_unforgivable · 2014-02-18T04:39:02+00:00

Get to the gym more frequently, get cut.

Women bosses will favor the most fuckable dudes in her company. They form subjective opinions based on how they 'feel' about you. If you're fat tub of lard, she'll naturally think you're incompetent. If you're Brad Pitt cut from Fight Club, she'll assume you're a capable, respected worker.

charlie_bodango · 2014-02-18T03:54:53+00:00

Women tend to equate confidence with competence more than results. Act like you're king shit expert of everything when she's around.

Title	Working for a female
Author	makm11
Upvotes	17
Comments	42
Date	February 17, 2014 8:02 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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