Yet more proof that sluts make poor LTR material. "As it turned out, having more sexual partners was associated with less stable relationships and less relationship satisfaction. "

Pablo_Poocaso · 2014-01-13T21:32:42+00:00

Well, yes, but:

A final caveat is this: The negative correlation was statistically reliable, given the large sample size, but rather small in magnitude. The correlation between number of partners and relationship stability, for example, was -.17. What this means is that the stability of your current relationship, and your satisfaction with that relationship, is determined by many other variables, besides whether or not you’ve had a lot of prior partners. Many people of my age and generation have had numerous previous relationships before their current one, and yet have stayed in their current relationship for decades. Whether or not your current relationship will last has less to do with how wild your past was, and more to do with how pleasant, faithful, and accommodating you are in the future.

-0.17 is not exactly Earth-shattering when it comes to negative correlations, as the author notes. Just because this article reinforces a common redpill tenant doesn't mean we can overlook the fact it isn't exactly a glaring statistical homerun.

Far more interesting, I imagine, to see this dataset lined up against average age of each gender respondent. I imagine you'd see a flattening out to stability for women, regardless of prior partner count, around age 30.

2014-01-13T20:56:49+00:00

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trudatness · 2014-01-13T23:14:50+00:00

When women are young, beautiful and used to everyone kissing their ass, they feel invincible and think life will always be that way. They out earn men, they dictate how their relationships work, they are free to do pretty much whatever they like.

Then something happens.

Men start to catch up - and by 30 years old by and large men begin to start taking the upper hand. They are less inclined to bend to will of women to get what they want. The pool of successful and available men shrinks. The pool of women in need of LTRs stays the same (or increases because of divorce). Women discover their workplace advantage evaporates. It becomes a buyers market for men.

Then the worm starts to turn. That sassy empowered arrogance dissipates into the ether once they discover succeeding in the next level of adulthood is hard and their chances of success look increasing less promising. All of a sudden, a whole mess of fish are looking for bicycles. In that panic, some hasty decisions are made - and many of them are marriages doomed to failure.

So many of these liberated women who had active single sex lives settle for a guy they believe would bring them stability. The beta bux male. These marriages are high risk because they are not based on love, but on selfishness. Often the men they marry have difficulty keeping their attraction over the long haul. Bad things are bound to happen - and the person who pays the biggest price is the man.

So women who lead this kind of life don't ever really love anyone but themselves over the course of their lives. Whether or not they are capable is irrelevant - they just don't - and men take notice.

I've read quite a bit of blue pill trolls talking about being in LTRs with guys they love and respect. Unwittingly, they describe red pill style LTRs. Seems like bpers completely forget about the contingent of guys who want LTRs, but come to TRP to learn how to be smart about it. The guys they describe in their lives are strong, intelligent and also kind. They respect their men - and are happy to have them. They don't view their SOs as weak, or inept or else they wouldn't want to be with them.

Seems irony is abound. TRP says being masculine and higher status SMV goes a long way towards keeping an LTR stable. It gets proven in the comments of blue pill every day.

2014-01-13T20:29:22+00:00

Water wet, fire hot, etc. Even if studies like this came out every day, this doesn't help guys who were raised in Disney fairytale land.

iamjacksnipples · 2014-01-13T22:32:41+00:00

In other news, Dr. Dre was right all along.

LifterofThings · 2014-01-13T22:54:22+00:00

Okay, so, you're free to believe whatever you like about sluts and LTRs and junk and there may be studies to support that sluts make for bad LTRs... but at least -read- the fuckin article:

But because these findings are correlational, there are numerous other possibilities. Whenever researchers see that two variables covary, they begin to search for possible third variables that might be (independently) causing both.

The negative correlation was statistically reliable, given the large sample size, but rather small in magnitude. The correlation between number of partners and relationship stability, for example, was -.17.

http://faculty.quinnipiac.edu/libarts/polsci/statistics.html, on interpreting correlation:

-.01 to -.19 No or negligible relationship

If you're going to use science to "prove" anything, at least read what you're citing.

30303030303030 · 2014-01-13T20:29:17+00:00

"As it turned out, having more sexual partners was associated with less stable relationships and less relationship satisfaction. "

shocking...

Can these idiots just copy paste what we are saying here cause that is literally in the basics of trp introduction.

DominumNegros · 2014-01-14T01:37:35+00:00

http://imgur.com/NtuZXGX

jagrmeister721 · 2014-01-13T23:37:28+00:00

First, I find this post valuable because science is always preferable to conjecture, as much as we may be enamored with our observations.

What I would be particularly interested in is the difference in the correlation (between # of partners and less relationship satisfaction) between men and women. One of the key conjectures of red pill has been that a high volume of sex outside a stable relationship has a greater negative effect on women, reducing their ability to pair bond. I've seen exactly one study which revealed its findings along these lines but published no data.

If THAT finding was revealed with data (and it may be in this study once the details are pored through), that would be significant step forward for red pill. Hard proof that the cock carousel has long-term consequences for women.

Glenbert · 2014-01-13T21:05:56+00:00

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Aerobus · 2014-01-13T22:55:19+00:00

It pisses me off that third-wave feminists, sluts, fatties, and all of that bunch try to deny these scientific findings as if it was a rabbit that a magician pulled out of a hat.

I fucking hate how they refuse to accept reality.

MrDog123 · 2014-01-14T11:14:40+00:00

Obviously when it comes to selecting a wife, a virgin bride/girlfriend is the ideal, but what, in the opinion of the frequent posters here, is the threshold for the point at which a woman becomes unfit to be marriage material?

What is the point at which she can be said to be riding the carousel if it is not at the point of simply not being a virgin?

What mitigating factors come into play that are simply not hamstering or rationalizing (and according to a lot of RP men, any notion of a woman considering a prior sexual encounter or relationship as a "mistake" IS just an exercise in hamstering - what are your thoughts on this?)

If such a woman has only one (or perhaps, at most, two) non-marital sexual partners, what are the circumstances under which one can plausibly admit that this is not necessarily indicative of problems down the line?

And even though it is not disputed that, statistically speaking, any prior sexual partners correlates with a higher rate of marital disruption, how likely is it and under what circumstances is it possible (in terms of attitude and context) that a woman with a relatively low sexual partner count will be able to bond with her husband in much the same way as a virgin would?

FugitiveAlpha · 2014-01-13T22:23:51+00:00

This study is about as helpful as doing a study to see if people die when they stop breathing...

toysjoe · 2014-01-14T01:53:45+00:00

So let me get this straight...people who have a lot of casual, carefree, no-strings-attached sex are "more likely to see sexual intercourse as a marker of long-term commitment."

Am I the only one to whom that makes no sense at all?

Hamilton5M · 2014-01-14T06:27:02+00:00

They are loads of fun though. Just don't think she will become a homemaker like 99% of men.

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