Your thoughts on TRP "accountability groups"?

Freiling · 2016-01-12T22:18:12+00:00

Not sure what all the negativity here is about. There's nothing wrong with wanting like-minded friends. People here try to act like they're an island, but they're getting the exact same type of support online.

Thotwrecker · 2016-01-12T20:41:16+00:00

Accountability groups and community motivation are huge in terms of getting women to adhere to dieting / fitness goals. It's all the rage - using social media, competition, comparison, and gamification to get weak ass betas and women to mock the effects of having discipline.

Yes, it is proven to work and it's proven to help you achieve goals. But the price is you do not develop a better trait, which is the ability to get the goal done yourself via internal drive and discipline.

Ultimately, I'd rather struggle and fall off the wagon once or twice, but perservere and develop the internal drive & discipline. That means more to me than using social egging and validation and group support as a crutch.

You will face all significant challenges in life ALONE.

When your parents are dying, you will have to be strong for your family alone. When your bitch cheats, your friend cannot shoulder that mental process of anger and moving on for you. When you get fired or you fail in a business endeavor, it's you alone with your failure, and it's you alone that has to pick up the pieces.

I train and improve myself alone, knowing it's harder and slower, because when disasters inevitably strike that I have to face alone, I'm well equipped for that shit. I've been training for those precise moments by doing all the other shit alone.

Beta males will always look to rely upon each other for support. Alpha males will have mentors and people who they use for some tangible benefit... but they will never rely upon these other people for their sources of motivation / self-improvement. That is silly.

You don't need others to keep you accountable; how will you ever learn possibly the most crucial skill, BEING ACCOUNTABLE TO YOURSELF?

Break out of group-thinking. If you want advice, ask away. If you want motivation, read up. But if you want someone to keep you responsible and take charge of your personal growth and development... you're jacking your dick off.

Rasalom72 · 2016-01-12T20:14:31+00:00

The only support group a man needs is himself. Take ownership of your own actions/ inactions and stop relying on others to hold you accountable.

How the fuck are you going to lead any woman in any way if you don't hold yourself accountable for your own life?

Paradigmond · 2016-01-13T16:55:53+00:00

I started one of these a while back on asktrp, though we communicate individually. Right from the beginning I became motivated to finally do my research into weight lifting programs and spent a week straight putting together my own understanding of nutrition. I organized it and sent it to whoever was interested, including a few of my friends. The feedback I received has brought up some questions I need to look into in my next wave of research. Yes, I should have wanted to do this on my own anyway, but I don't see what could be wrong with using others for motivation and intellectual discourse. Is it considered reliance if you finish a book next month for a book club? If you don't finish you get a little shit thrown your way and lose the respect of others because you said you would do something and didn't.

Ultimately no one is going to care if you're improving or not. No one is going to make you go to the gym and you shouldn't be doing it for others anyway. This was your idea that you came up with so just go do it and see what happens. If it's stupid and doesn't result in anything then you gain some perspective on what works or doesn't work.

dumstick · 2016-01-14T00:09:29+00:00

This would be nice for a couple of reasons. You would have a group of like-minded people who aren't pc as fuck which is hard to find in the wild. You could chat and run ideas by each other at a faster rate than over Reddit. I want to start one of these groups or if one has been started my skype name is "Benjaminbenja" cheers

tammuz · 2016-01-15T02:12:00+00:00

Discipline is key, you don't need anybody else for that. In my opinion an accountability group would just add to your list of things to do. Lift today and then go on-line to tell people about it and get praise. Or just lift. I know which one I would choose.

bsutansalt · 2016-01-13T22:17:40+00:00

This is essentially what old school PUA "lairs" were for.

Foctopus · 2016-01-12T20:27:34+00:00

This sounds like a good idea to me. Can't skype you guys (limited internet access) but I'd love to get involved.

thiasus · 2016-01-12T23:17:47+00:00

What do you think abouth having "accountability groups" of 5 - 10 people where you can discuss TRP, motivation etc.?

I think it's a piss-poor idea unless it's very well structured. 10 random people starting out from recovering betadom having their own little discussion group is much aking amateur scientists running a lab: they might stay on course for a few weeks and then get fucked when they lack the necessary experience.

This could sort of work if someone experienced, with proven success in life and the ability to teach, acted as a mentor for a small number of guys, a sort of grown-up father figure to teach you the shit your dad most likely neglected.

Still, 80% of the work, and easily 95%+ of the work for those starting out, is about self-control, self-respect, de-programming yourself from the bullshit and re-programming yourself to be a man. There's no substitute for learning that kind of discipline the hard way.

Scurvemuch · 2016-01-13T19:56:11+00:00

A man walks alone.

No one can hold you responsible other than yourself.

If you want a wingman or two, get some friends.

If you want a gym buddy , get some friends.

A . MAN . WALKS . ALONE

Title	Your thoughts on TRP "accountability groups"?
Author	BabaxGanoosh
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Date	January 12, 2016 8:02 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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