Hi guys,
I've done most of the side bar reading but it's been a while since I've gone over it for a second time. Most recent book was King Warrior Magician Lover. I'm 28, 6'4" 212 BP: 255, Squat: 366, Dead: 410, DB curl: 45 (lol jokes). Been seeing a girl exclusively for a few months now, been fucking her since last summer.
There was a post recently that mentioned the "Validation needs that can poison your sex life" post, and I've realized that I receive a massive amount of validation in the form of attraction validation. When I first started having sex I would go down the girl, make her cum, and only then focus on my own pleasure. As I've gotten older and gained confidence and social dominance, I have started to develop the sexually dominant side of myself. My relationships in all areas of my life have improved, and my sex life has drastically improved. I get anal (less than Red), deepthroating, toys, ...and their submission. The submission is great, but I find that my ego has become invested in their submissive responses, and I am trying to get a handle on that. Obviously my ego at large is something I am working on, this is just an area where it consistenly raises it's head.
It is sexy as hell when she does exactly what I say, in and out of the bedroom, and I get off on that (obviously). When she doesn't do what I've asked, my ego is wrapped up with my need to correct her behaviour, and I worry that what may be legitimate concerns on her part - "I'm not in the right headspace today to do XYZ", "I've never liked [blank] and would prefer [blank]", etc. - my ego wants to push through her resistance and label it a shit test because if I let her have her way I no longer feel like I am in control. Should I really care that much if I've asked her to refer to me as 'Your Big Dick Highness' and she just calls me 'dick'? Probably not, but I worry that if I let it slip, I'll be on a slippery slope back to where I was a few years ago with a harpy bitch I created.
Additionally, I have covert contracts with how I expect her to behave in bed. If I tighten this rope, blindfold her like this, pull the ball gag just right and rub her clit left to right I will get the response I want. When I don't get this response (maybe she's tired, or I haven't been handling my shit sufficiently, or whatever), my cover contract falls apart, my ego takes a hit, my frame goes to shit and, and I can feel myself wanting to disengage. I tell myself to not be a bitch and make it happen and I'll get my nut regardless, but it is a struggle to keep my head in the game. I was tired the other night and I did disengage during an encounter like this and go to bed, but that threw her for a loop and she asked me if we could 'please have sex'. I told her sure, but she's getting on top and riding me, and I told her what a little slut she was the whole time. She did a damn fine job of it. She woke me in the morning horny as shit too. I almost feel that walking away from the so-so sex worked, but my ego was still tied up in the interaction which let me know I still have a bunch of work to do, regardless of the response I recieved from her.
After having written all of that out it doesn't seem to be any different than most of the problems guys come here with, but I would appreciate the feedback. I've come a long way from where I was when I first joined this site, but some feedback on moving past my ego validation would be greatly appreciated.
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This is diving more into the BDSM territory, but if your girl wants to be submissive—I mean really wants it, not just to please you—then you are doing her a disservice by not calling her out on her missteps. If she truly derrives pleasure from being submissive to you, she wants to be incentivized to do the right thing and will want to be corrected when she does not. Because a true submissive wants to do the right thing, even if they can't or don't know how—which is why they seek out a dom in the first place. I don't know what your woman really wants here—is she truly submissive or does she just want to make you happy because you want to be dominant?
If it's the former, you can form correct without your ego getting involved by reminding yourself that this is what she wants, and that her acting out is an invitation for correction, not an invitation to feel upset about her wrongdoings. I know that's not really red pill per se—focusing on her wants—but what you're talking about is not really red pill but D/s dynamics.
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In my experience, physicality (hand-to-throat in your example) only makes up some small portion of a submissive's desire and is usually some means to an end, like punishment. The mental aspect is much more powerful. (Don't get me wrong: plenty of girls like it rough, but that doesn't automatically make them submissive in the way we're talking about.)
It should be relatively straightforward to suss out your partner's intentions here. When she does not follow orders exactly to your liking, correct her. She will either take your lead and do what you ask, exactly how you asked it, or she will balk. A true submissive quite literally gets off by ceding control of their own actions and doing what they're told to do. If they are doing things wrong and their dom does not correct them, that is painful for them. If your girl balks, she may just like to pretend to be submissive, or like to be held down and roughed up but at the end of the day is still unwilling to truly cede that control, it's unlikely that is what gets her off. There's nothing inherently wrong with that either, but D/s strategies likely will not pertain to your situation. If she balks, use that as an opportunity to figure out what she's truly looking for here and adapt accordingly.
DM me if you wanna chat more.
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