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Does anyone suffer from chronic pain due to lifting injuries?

NoC2H6OnlyGas

March 8, 2021

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I've got arthritis and a plethora of injuries. What methods do you use to play through the pain? Anybody out here not afraid to say they are running a Test+Deca+HGH cycle? I'm sure I'm not the only guy with arthritis here right? Arthritis is inevitable for the people it effects, and it effects a large portion of the population. Obviously this isn't when we stop lifting and take the blue pill? How do you stay healthy?

Some guys at the gym start taking vicodins, doctors prescription, until that eventually stops working so they move up to stronger pills and eventually herion/fentanly and UGL Steriods. There are is more than one reason to be apprehensive about going down this path. So what do you so when you experience pain/injury? You just quit and become a beta male.....right? I lost a LOT of wages and time spent literally bed ridden.....never would have spent 2 years in a bed if I didn't dedicate my life to the gym. Should we not lift seriously? Just enough to "get the girl"?

230lbs, 6 feet. No weights at all even though I have a passion for the gym that rivals every person I've ever met. Its really depressing living with chronic pain and losing your one true worldly love. Weights.

At least I got big enough to always be able to weigh over 200 without trying. For me it's always been about body image. At 230 lbs I'm a fairly fat guy now. Embarrassed to take this shirt off.

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Title	Does anyone suffer from chronic pain due to lifting injuries?
Author	NoC2H6OnlyGas
Upvotes	1
Comments	34
Date	March 8, 2021 7:06 PM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/askRPC
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[–]Red-Curious 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (33 children) | Copy Link

I've had a consistent lower back pain for years - especially bad since late-August. It sucks. Somedays it's hardcore (like yesterday) and others it's just a dull ache. I find that when I'm cutting and my weight is down, and I'm also continuing to lift, it hurts less. When during COVID my weight went back up and I wasn't lifting, it hurt more.

I don't know all the details of what you're specifically dealing with, but my guess is that "no weights at all" is not a doctor's prescription, and that there are ways to strengthen your muscles without trying to max out all the time. Best method for lifting through it is to start with the largest weight you can do with manageable pain and just do high reps there. If your injuries/issues are not muscular, then I'm confident you'll find that increasing your muscular strength will go a long way in reducing the pain - especially in things like arthritis or joint injuries. It takes the burden off of the skeletal and fluid-based issues and shifts it to your increased muscle size and capacity.

Granted, I'm also not a doctor, so look to what others say who may be more qualified here.

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[–]OrlandoTheAxe 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I have met 2 of the mods in person. Rather than calling me a beta for my sucky lifts, they encouraged me for doing what I can.

Folks around here get a bit autistic about the exhortation to lift, but the real reason it is recommended is because it builds character and makes you more attractive - qualities which boost your ability to disciple others. No one expects you to do exercises that damage you. That accomplishes the opposite.

If there is no way to exercise without hurting yourself and no treatment that can help you, you don't need to burden yourself with it. Focus on what you can do for God's kingdom. Christ is not going to say "I'd let you into heaven, but your deadlift is too low." Instead, he will congratulate you for how you multiplied the talents you do have to reach others on behalf of the Kingdom. There's nothing beta about that.

[–]NoC2H6OnlyGas 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

[–]OrlandoTheAxe 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No offense taken, man. Perhaps you should join the Discord. These guys really aren't that bad when you talk to them directly, and I think a lot gets lost in translation here on reddit.

I understand the shame and self hatred that comes from suffering from self-inflicted injuries. All of mine are my fault. It demoralizes me and sabotages attempts at making progress.

As much as you can, the way out is to stop listening to what other people think about you, stop focusing on your past mistakes, and do what you can do now. Accepting this as a starting point doesn't mean that you have to accept being sedentary or give up on recovery, rather it enables you to move past the initial trauma of what has happened to you and start focusing on a solution. It is much easier said than done, but for now, leave the alpha, beta labels behind and give yourself a chance.

I've only just begun to make progress in this area, so understand that my experience is limited. A lot of these lessons were derived from interactions with people around here (one guy was even taking me to the gym with him every week). If you can, don't be so quick to withdraw just because some folks around here are critics. I really do believe they mean well.

[–]rocknrollchuck 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If they met you in person and said something different it makes me wonder why they say something different once they go online

I'm actually one of the guys that met Orlando. It's not that I met him in person and all of a sudden said something different, it's that there is a huge difference between a general online exhortation to lift and meeting someone in person, getting a sense for who they are and where they are at in their journey, and giving tailored advice to fit the situation.

You must understand that many people who come here have lived fat, lazy undisciplined lives for as long as they have lived. How can we give specialized advice to a community like that? We can't. Instead, we give general advice and recommendations that have worked for the majority of people who come here and put in the work.

If you're injured or starting from a very weak point, then get active. Walk more. Do pushups. One today, two tomorrow, three the day after, etc. Everybody can do something. Even if you're in a wheelchair you can do upper body exercises.

We don't ask for stats on every post. Rule 2 on the Sidebar says specifically:

ALL posts asking for help with relationship issues must include the following:

The reason for this is because most relationship issues involve a person trying to "break the code" and learn that "one weird trick" that gets them the girl. When they post their stats, you can see they are 50 lbs. overweight and live a sedentary lifestyle in front of a screen. OF COURSE we are going to start there, because a person in pretty good physical shape is playing the game on easy mode.

I assumed the goal of this sub is to help turn beta christian men into alphas. It says as an alpha you will be more equipped for working for God's Kingdom than a beta.

It looks that way because most guys who come here are 100% beta and 0% alpha. It's not betas becoming alphas, it's shifting the balance toward more alpha characteristics, while learning when and how to use the beta characteristics that are usually second nature to most who come here. Jesus is the perfect balance of alpha and beta characteristics, and He is our example to follow.

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[–]throwawayme123454321 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

No, at that point, both guys have enough muscles that the difference is minimal and other things like height and face are more important (they already both are more important anyway). There is a reason why the debate is height vs face. Muscle mass is third behind those two, it doesn't hurt to have muscle (unless you look ridiculously like a body builder kind of guy). Obviously skinny twigs are less attractive but other than that its not that important. Take a look at the guys who are considered the sexiest- Cavill, Gandy, Pitt, Levine, Pattinson, Beckham, Chico, etc. none of them can bench 400, and only a few could bench over 300 (maybe Cavill and gandy). If you can bench over 250 then it is almost 100 percent sure NOT your problem attracting women (if you have a problem). If you enjoy gaining strength, then do it, but if you are doing it for women (which you shouldn't be anyway) then you would be better off making money to improve fashion and style.

[–]NoC2H6OnlyGas1 point 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

[–][deleted]1 point 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

LOL bro, you're not getting a model wife unless you are one yourself. It is your FACE that makes you a model as a man. There are millions of guys who can bench 250/275/300/350. It's impressive (less so if you did steroids), but really? You think that's going to get you the "most" attractive woman? 99 percent of the most attractive women, the top tier 9 and 10s, aren't Christian, so if that's what you are looking for, you're not going to find it at church (unless you find the unicorn). Maybe you could convert one. How old are you??

edit: I know guys who can't bench 250 and have dozens of women. face, height and status absolutely obliterate muscle mass in terms of attraction. most women are like 5'4, if you are tall you are already sexually dimorphic, the difference between benching 250 and 300 is not that much.

[–]NoC2H6OnlyGas1 point 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

. There are millions of guys who can bench 250/275/300/350. It's impressive (less so if you did steroids), but really? You think that's going to get you the "most" attractive woman?

No thats not what I said. I said the chances are against you so you need to have a top tier physique. Combine that with a high income and then an ugly guy might have a chance with a beautiful girl. And if you the kind of guy who has an attractive face then working out and having alpha traits will help you avoid future relationship problems or make them more manageable. And trust me, girls don't care if you use steriods...at least 90% of them don't. Steriods are just hormones, it still takes hard work, diet and discipline to move heavy weights and make gains. They simply help you work way harder than normal while also boosting your recovery. Which allows you to work even harder the next workout.

Other hormones like Deca can actually relieve joint and tendon pain/injuries

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[–]ReddJive 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

That is silly. Women don't care about the numbers, they care about what it looks like when you take your shirt off.

Completely incorrect.

I am a powerlifter, amateur competitor (meaning I don't get paid). I train in a specialty gym for powerlifting and bodybuilding. There are real athletes there that are elite status, a few that are ranked nationally (like my coach), and some of these guys are well over 400 pounds. Not a close to being lean. Yet their girlfriends or even wives will show up to competitions, or to drop off snacks and water. They mate guard like it's their job and these women are attractive. Even the women that train will show IOIs to these guys.

people who are deliberate; who do things on purpose are amazing. I'm all for winging it to keep things weird, but somebody who thinks, acts, and lives with a plan is irresistible.

As a medical professional you need to rethink your ideas on steroids. Unless under medical supervision they are dangerous.

[–]NoC2H6OnlyGas1 point 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

[–]ReddJive1 point 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I think you have life saving meds mixed up. Epinephrine is a life saving med. Testosterone? not so much though there is no denying its' benefits to mens health

Without a doc to monitor and regulate dosage a patient can suffer cardiovascular disease or an enlarged heart. Higher levels fo cholesterol have also been noted. This is true of any steroid. They are not to be taken lightly. Prednisone is another that comes to mind.

men that already have low T do directly benefit from the hormone injections without ill effects, yet that is because they are already in a low state. If someone is't deficient awhy should they take more? If this indeed a life saving drug as you suggest why take it if your life isn't in danger?

Assuming someone isn't low T or medically diagnosed with low T, what is needed is a healthier body which is as you suggest being lean and fit. This then allows the hormone to be better used and processed by the body.

Finally, there is a lot of utility in thinking that being ripped as Chad. It gives a man a goal to achieve. This above all is what women look for in man. Does he set a goal and achieve it? Does he do what he said he's going to set out to do. It can be getting fit and lean, or lifting 950 on a squat. both take work.

Just like coming to Christ as your lord and savior, you can enter his house with any mindset you want, sins, bad habits, and a personal history that isn't as pure as people would think....and yet as you grow closer you will find things changing. The path you are taking to achieve your goal begins to chance you and shape things in your life.

realize being alpha seems very un-like Christ.

Your perceptions of it are. Our thoughts direct our outcomes and beliefs. Our emotions cannot be trusted. They can inform but must be tempered.

[–]NoC2H6OnlyGas1 point 5 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Testosterone is one of many life saving medicines. Hgh is also life saving medicine. Deca is also a medicine I can personally attest to saving my life at one point in time due to the healing and pain relief it offered me. Taking deca allowed me to work a physically demanding job despite my many injuries which kept my rent paid and my family off the streets. Deca and Testosterone accomplished that for my family.

Would you also try to discourage my usage of experimental peptides? And if yes then why? You don't believe in taking risks in order for a person's greater benefit? With all the risks associated with Testosterone, it's a completely natural and safe drug. You are straight up lying if you say its dangerous when taken outside of a medical setting. Its prescribed to people because it's safe to take. I had already deleted this post, now you come here with your "All drugs even Testosterone is bad" attitude? I'm glad I have the strength to say this false, today.

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