called out gf for wrong behavior, might have lost frame?

VasiliyZaitzev · 2017-11-24T18:52:11+00:00

A. Never apologize, never explain.

B. You punish girls by withdrawing attention. Not by reacting to their silly bullshit.

ATrashMan · 2017-11-24T17:13:07+00:00

She acted like shit towards you and you still apologized to her? ouuchhhhhhh. You need to read yourself some N.M.M.N.G.

NazoXIII · 2017-11-24T17:04:59+00:00

Tl;dr: Yes, you lost frame, stop being reactive.

Let me explain something to you friendo, the only reason anyone has to explain anything to anyone is if the other person is genuinely unaware.

Women are never unaware, I know we typically see them as the most responsible child in the room, but even children know how to manipulate (don't think so? Go to any shopping area and watch children basically game their parent to get them shit), She knows exactly what she was doing, therefore calling her out just makes you seem like a weak little beta.

In this situation you shouldn't have cared, just withdraw your attention and do what you want to do, more often than not she'll get the message, probably ask "Is this because I did XYZ?", by you arguing with her you retroactively justified her actions, she's thinking " See, I had a reason to behave this way if this is how he reacts", just don't do it.

Nomfwic · 2017-11-24T17:13:37+00:00

You lost frame the minute you called her out on her shit. Yes she disrespected you , but it is also very known to her.

In a situation of disrespect, I'd get out of there as chill as possible and give her radio silence for a while. Shit like that needs to be treated with swift punishment.

_the_shape_ · 2017-11-24T17:20:43+00:00

she starts to rest her head in his arm and looks right at me like she is rubbing it in my face

Yes, this is asking for a breakup. What led up to this moment? How long have you two been together? Has she tried something like this before? Some context is needed, but this sort of behavior still merits a termination of contract. Turning things around so that she begins to demonstrate unequivocal respect toward you will likely prove extremely challenging once it reaches this point.

this is possibly because they paired a new hire ( hb 7ish) for me to train her.

Do you work with your gf? If so, let this be a lesson in the fundamentals: don't shit where you eat

we get to my car and I called her out on the games she is playing and we got in an little argument.

She knows what she did 'wrong', there's no need for you to have a "talk" to get to the bottom of the matter. Either you beat her to it and tell her to take an Uber without any explanation as to why, or you drop her off, never saying a word, again, without any explanation as to why.

Would you like to know why you don't fence with a women using words? Follow what I put in bold:

I told her I am done (as in this game) and she starts to cry and said shell take a uber home but I still dropped her off. I might have broke frame for saying sorry. sent her a text actually saying sorry for the way I acted. but I still think she did that intentionally.

See what happened there? She played your ass like a rigged slot-machine and cashed out with one big juicy "sorry" from you despite her flagrant show of disrespect.

And finally, to answer your questions:

Should you hard next? I'll let you decide: either keep a disrespectful girl who knows she has you so deep in her back pocket she can deliberately shit the bed and make you clean the whole mess up, or start fresh single and/or with a new chick.

If you've read this far down, I think you know the answer to the breaking-frame question.

beermagnate · 2017-11-24T21:10:39+00:00

Your next step is hard next immediatelly, because she will always gonna see you as weak.

m0rphing · 2017-11-24T23:37:42+00:00

You broke frame big time. You exposed yourself as an insecure bitch who was actually worried when this girl got flirty with another dude. Look, I know this isn't something most guys learn these days, so I don't blame you too much. But now you must learn the truth. No woman is ever yours. She will always leave you eventually. If it is her time to go, all you can do is wave goodbye and wish her all the best. You cannot control what a woman will do with her life, nor can she control what you will do with yours. Everybody is completely free.

When a girl you've been seeing flirts with another dude, the proper response is no response. If she is doing it to see if she can get a rise out of you, I would smile and laugh inwardly and think it's cute that she thinks I care or that I want to control her. I don't. Then I simply go about my business as if nothing happened. Go talk to someone else, a dude, a hot chick, a grandma, whatever. Consider that maybe she really does want to see somebody else and let her go. In fact, even if she doesn't flirt with other dudes, constantly be letting go of her in your mind. Even when you are fucking her, let go of her, let her be free, do not hold onto her.

Whenever she takes time away from you, she will either be back or she won't, but if you tried to control her you would only push her away faster.

JustJustin121 · 2017-11-24T18:55:04+00:00

You shouldn’t have even noticed or cared about the game she was playing, at least outwardly. Inwardly you can decide afterwards if you want to cold next.

RedPilledRoaster · 2017-11-24T19:00:30+00:00

You fucked up. Move on

nastynickdr · 2017-11-24T20:19:41+00:00

Call her out on it? No.

She is your GF. What you have to do is vet her. Let her show her true self. She is what she is. She does what she does. Then, based on her actions, you decide if she is worthy of your commitment or not. You cant control her or what she does, but you can control you and your choices.

Is this acceptable behaviour for you? It either is or it isnt. If its not, its time for her to take a hike and you go find yourself better woman(en).

360_no_scope_upvote · 2017-11-25T09:06:14+00:00

I can count 5 frame breaks in this one post. Can you spot them OP? Break up with her immediately you're done.

Why are saying sorry? What did you do wrong?
driving her home lol wut? Pussy
arguing with a woman, no, you won't win. Do not engage
calling her out? Read the side bar, women don't own up to their mistakes. You're enabling her victim mentality
calling out your own frame break by saying you are done. This means she has successfully pushed you to the point where you can't handle it. The best way to combat this is silence. Women can't handle it.

The correct way to handle this entire situation is to demote her to plate and skip the whole play and dance you let yourself get suckered into by your weak frame.

Title	called out gf for wrong behavior, might have lost frame?
Author	ishyman
Upvotes	4
Comments	11
Date	November 24, 2017 4:44 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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