My friend and I were talking about frame and our discussion got heated at one point. He says that if a girl asks you to go to a bar and you say no but then show up at that bar later that night your frame is weak in her eyes, she bitched you, and got you to do what she asked for pussy.

I told him things are not so black and white. I told him women's logic is emotional, they don't normally think with options and possibilities. Where men are optional and logically most of the time. So if I was going to do option A, but for certain circumstances decided to do Option B — how does that make my frame weak? Either way I'm doing what I want to do.

Point being, if I were talking to a woman and she said "Hey lets meet up at Buffalo Bar Friday night." And I say, "No, I'm going to the movies." I'm maintaining my frame and I'm not jumping through her hoop. If I end up at the bar that night instead of going to the movies — it is my choice to go and if I see her there I could easily say, "I went to the movie and wanted to stay out and get a drink. I like this bar."

How is my frame broken? I'm doing what I want — not being a dog and doing tricks for her treats. I wasn't dominated into that choice. It was a logical decision by me where I want a drink I'll go there because there is an opportunity to either bump into this chick or maybe another one.