How does life change after college?

Cookiest · 2017-06-05T14:51:29+00:00

1)What life is like - social circles are now created and sustained by you. Regardless of you're hanging out with people from HS and Uni, you should be actively making new friends and expanding your social circle. You can no longer rely on school to "give" you friends by placing you in proximity. Edit - just realized you're 18ish. I'm assuming you're going to college. 1) join a frat, 2) use house parties as your night game 3) continue using school to form social circles but go out and make your own friends 4) don't get addicted to alcohol, use it with caution. your top priority should be getting a 4.0 and landing the best internships. You should be working HAM because those high paying jobs (Goldman Sachs, McKinsey, Google) are how your SMV peaks later in life. And it starts here at 18 in college

2) SMV Peak - Peak is defined as a significant accumulation of wealth, power, looks, and confidence. We say Peak is at 30 because it usually takes you 8-10 years to get a good job, workout, and become confident in yourself. You might achieve it as soon as 23 if you're smart about it. 2a) start working out asap; study fashion and find a style that you like, get good at making yourself look good. Find an archetype that you think exudes manliness and go for it. ie James Bond, Superman, cowboy, hells angel, whatever you want. 2b) work hard and save every penny. Use that money to start side hustles and side investments. Grow those. Buy a house, yes, even a terrible one. Invest, rent, and sell ten years from now. Get a passive income established. don't pay for dates or women. Save the money. You don't need to buy fancy stuff for GF and LTR yet. Save save save. 2c) use the PUA model and do approaches. Get the anxiety out of your system. Once you get good you'll realize that you can use principals on men and women in order to grow your business and social networks.

Good luck out there.

tylertgbh · 2017-06-05T16:34:25+00:00

It really depends on what you end up doing after college. The college atmosphere/world makes it easy to meet girls and go to parties, etc. After college you have to put in a lot more effort to keep up a social group. Also, once you join the workforce, assuming it's a typical white collar or otherwise 9-5 job it becomes much more difficult and tiring to keep up a social life like you had in college. In terms of game, it's harder to casually meet girls. While in college you'll meet girls in class, at parties, on campus, etc once you start working its tougher to casually meet girls as youre spending most of your time at work where you shouldnt be pursuing girls.
I haven't peaked by any means as I'm only in my early/mid 20s but my SMV has certainly increased since University (partly because i found TRP and started lifting in my last year). I'll describe my experience like this:

When you finish high school, say approx 60% of people go on to college. So roughly 40% stop improving after high school. They dress the same, they act the same, their immature attitude doesnt change much, and they're much less likely to further their learning.

Then you go through college and at the end of college 60-70% of people stay the same. They dress the same, act the same, etc. And you have only about 30% of the people who went to college who then graduate, get good jobs and continue to improve themselves. And let's keep in mind this is only about 10-15% of people you went to high school with. So only that small percentage of people continue to improve themselves once they reach their mid 20s. Most people become complacent once they get to certain stages in their life.

So the point of that is to describe what I've noticed. As I continue to improve myself most of my peers have plateaued or otherwise give up. When you continue to improve yourself after college, it means continuing learning, for example: reading books even though you don't have to, reading good quality news sources so you actually understand what's going on in the world and effecting the economy and politics, it means getting involved in organizations outside of work which may give you additional skills/knowledge or may supplement your work-skills that helps you become better than your coworkers. All this also demonstrates ambition which is really attractive to girls.

Also, you can improve your clothing and style. That means having an apartment that looks like an adult with some class lives there, not a frat boy. That means being able to dress yourself and portray a sense of style and personality. I'm absolutely astonished when I meet up with old friends from high school, who are now in their mid 20s but they still dress the exact same as they did in high school. How can they expect to command respect or attract top quality girls when they literally dress the same as a 16 year old?

All this adds up when you meet girls. You're more likely to stand out from the sea of dicks. You'll be more interesting, more mature. This means that when you go on tinder or otherwise meet a horny 19 year old girl looking for a casual dick to ride, you are light years more sexy and attractive than the fratboys and man-children this 19yo knows in her day-to-day life. Just think of any movie or TV show characters that young girls drool over. They want to go home with a Mike Ross or Harvey Spector. Few men can play that role.

Docbear64 · 2017-06-05T15:24:19+00:00

the ability to game and enjoy night life are directly related to the opportunities you take and the experiences you are willing / interested in exploring . If you don't go out and try to meet girls in college or hang out at good night time spots then you can expect to meet nobody. same goes for life after college. main difference is that in college there tends to be a lot more women concentrated in one space so it can be easier to make the most of your opportunities but considering malls , beaches, and clubs exist in the real world there's still female - laden places to go and meet women .
I'm 27 so still not quite at my prime yet but moving towards it , I graduated from college at 21 and from 21 to 25 worked my ass off . I had next to no social life for a good chunk of that period ( I also was in an LTR for some of that) . I will say that from 25 to now I have seen my life improve drastically each year in some regards I lost weight and developed a solid fitness routine , I make much more money , I have a lot more confidence ,etc . If this trend continues I'll walk into thirty looking the best I've ever looked with the most money I've ever had and women only get easier to meet every year ( I also realize looking back just how much of a baby face I had when I was younger yuck it's finally getting better). The only caveat to this is that women don't just fall out of the sky . They want attractive men so the two core rules apply ALWYAS 1. Be Attractive. 2. Don't be Unattractive . as you mature though and get your shit in a row the game only gets easier though IMO.

JackGetsIt · 2017-06-05T15:44:51+00:00

There are a lot of great threads on this topic if you search them up. Search terms like 'advice for teens redpill' 'redpillers over thirty what advice would you give' 'older redpillers' etc. It would also be helpful if your question was paired down a little bit. What aspects do you want to know about? Some mens SMV never peaks. Just because you turn some arbitrary age doesn't make you a man of value. Most men that don't work hard in their twenties don't get this magical peak in their 30's. It's the guys that are grinding it out and didn't let an ex take all their money that are winning in their thirties and forties. If you want to ask some more specific questions I can do my best to answer...

Metalageddon · 2017-06-05T22:12:42+00:00

Maybe I should just make this an official post, because I've reposted it about 4 times so far, it's been 9 days since the original. In lesser degree, this is also about college. About removing barriers in general milemarkers.

Here: in what ways does life at 30 really get better?

Quite a few ways, but none of it is statically guaranteed. It comes down to what you've done, as usual. The person you've built is what others see and want.

if you've built your finances, you can now (potentially) provide. That's attractive.
if you've taken care of your body, you're now in your physical prime. That's attractive.
if you've built your network you now have access, power, and proof. That's attractive.
if you've chosen a good location, you now have access and a nice nest. That's attractive.
you no longer are beholden to others rules, such as parents, the education system, etc. That's attractive.
if you've spent your life gathering cool experiences, you're much more exciting than your younger self. (Who likely was slaving away or too poor to do much). That's attractive.

Notice all of these are based on how you built your life. The actions you take today are who you'll be tomorrow, a month, year, decade, down the line. Nothing magical happens at 30. Nothing at all. It's just another number. It just so happens that by this time, men who were still figuring things out finally get their big brain to overpower the little one,

no more relying on the Limbic brain screaming dopamine now
no more pedestaling women just for existing. You've seen the ugliness inherent in both sexes.
no more blissful and dangerous unawareness of how the law can fuck you. How the wrong short term decision can fuck you.
no more struggling to build a name, by now it's probably established.

And it doesn't hurt that women simply enjoy older men en-masse. If anything that's only increased due to lack of father figures. Kinda fucked up but hey, it's something that helps you as much as hinders.

Now in accordance with the above, there's a flip side we need to look at for the rmp. (Relationship market place). After 28-30, Women are now sellers instead of buyers. Men are buying and it's a buyer's market.

at 30 they're not as hot as the 25yr old next to them. They're not as hot as themselves a decade ago.
at 30 they're bio clock is severely running out.
at 30 the desperation begins to hit, people sense something wrong if a 35yr old girl isn't already wife'd up. This can't really be changed though feminists try to.
at 30 the shaming tactics and wait for your chance, doesn't really work on guys. They've crushed from 18 to 30, twelve years of salt and being passed over. Now they want what they've waited for. But with a younger model.
by 30 the baggage, (alpha widowed, cock carousel, drugs, stress, biology), is all crashing down on women. They lose rmp value every 6 months and every desperate lay that fails to net something. It's brutal.

So these two sets of things put together result in why men say 30 is when the script is flipped. IF YOU'VE BUILT IT, you wouldn't settle for a shrew you can't ever please and have to tame whose looking at you as her second, third, twentieth choice. You have all the cards. And the younger girls know it, and use it. The older ones buy pets, bitch, moan, shame, and try to negotiate attraction. (Which you can't do.)

The key in this is that 30 isn't magical. But it is where men who are working on themselves seem to begin seriously cashing in. It's never too late to start building bro. Start building.

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quicklogaccount · 2017-06-05T16:55:47+00:00

1 - After graduating school you're not forced to share spaces with care free people anymore (if it happens at your work, change jobs). Meeting people becomes harder to do, although still feasible. People end up feeling lonely, I've felt like me and my ex drifted alone in the world before I decided to put some effort on that.
As you're younger shit like owning a car, having your own place and spare money to spend aren't must haves, you can game without it. Being social and good looking is far more important. As you start to game older women, post college, this changes and that stuff starts to become important.

2 - Everything is way too fucking serious, nothing is fun and games anymore, keeping the mouth shut becomes insanely important, long breathes before talking becomes a thing.

smarterthanyew · 2017-06-05T16:03:29+00:00

If you're intelligent like me (IQ is over 150) then life gets infinitely better. I was at the top of my class and got a great job when I graduated, and now I make 200k a year.

Title	How does life change after college?
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