Hey guys, first off this isn’t supposed to be a controversial post nor is it supposed to provoke anyone. I’m simply writing this in hopes some of you young men see this and can have a moment of clarity within yourselves. This clarity can help you do better with people and most of all women which I know you all want.

A number of times now I’ve seen women try to hop in here and weigh in on topics. Some are asking legitimate questions on how to understand men, some asking for advice: none have been overly negative at a first take. However, every single time a woman says anything in this sub they get brigaded by dozens of angry boys telling them to “just go away, cunt” or some iteration of such. This is very strange to me because the presence and opinion of women should be encouraged here. Women often have very good insight on how to get a woman (shocker I know). Yes, not all advice is good or can translate from female>male>female well, but understanding women is an excellent step in being good with women.

These same kids then make posts complaining about how they’re unsuccessful with women asking “how can I make a woman have sex with me.” Gentlemen.. the absolute first step in being better with women is to respect women. You can’t be an asshole and attract women. I understand the trope of women liking assholes, but that’s only true with 1. An incredibly low quality person 2. When it’s in good taste. Be an “asshole” playfully and she’ll likely respond in a positive way. You can’t call a woman a “cunt” and find success. As men, we need to strive to be better men, not “body count chads.” I promise you, not a woman on earth is dropping her drawers because you’ve “had sex every day of the year.”

This is a subreddit to discuss seduction. Seduction is relevant and important for all genders. I have no books for you to read, I only offer you this insight into the dichotomy of the sub: having a super negative reaction to a female because she’s female is why you aren’t getting laid. That’s nobody’s issue except your own and until you realize that, you’ll never find success.

TL;DR: Guys, please stop being incels and telling women they’re not wanted here. And for the love of god please take a look at how you’re treating the women you want to seduce. If you wouldn’t say it to your grandmother (you know minus the escalation bits) don’t say it to her. Oh and also stop reading seduction books. Those aren’t going to help you unless you’re a total novice.