[ADVICE] How Do I Improve Without Being A Piece Of Shit In The Process?

bl1y · 2015-01-11T21:53:15+00:00

Two problems here.

First, there's nothing wrong with just chatting women up in public for no purpose other than to have a conversation. Get out of the mindset of thinking you can only approach women you're romantically/sexually interested in.

Second, less attractive girls aren't any easier. I've seen plenty of open, friendly 9s and lots of bitchy, impossible 6s.

2015-01-12T00:24:37+00:00

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seducemeseddit · 2015-01-12T00:37:46+00:00

You're not promising them anything. If you're talking and it goes well and you go to leave without asking for her number she won't think that you want to take her out because you didn't attempt to get the information required to do so. Even if you do it shouldn't matter. They don't have a real emotional attachment to you. You're just some smooth guy who approached them in the mall or wherever.

penguin_says_slide · 2015-01-11T21:50:17+00:00

Are you afraid of taking advantage of them? Of them taking advantage of you?

Zombiefowl · 2015-01-12T00:42:13+00:00

self respect, reflection, and empathy. you will be fine.

TheAtomicOption · 2015-01-12T07:31:44+00:00

You're trying to tackle two problems at once:

Holding a conversation
Escalating

If you can't hold a conversation yet, you probably shouldn't worry about escalating physically too much. Outside of very specific party environments, you've got to be able to do 1 well before you can do 2 without being creepy anyway."

But to answer your questions about less desirable women, firstly, don't worry about it too much. Find women who are both not too intimidating but also seem interesting and attractive enough for you to enjoy their company. These women are the ones who are exactly in your (current) league, so you're not at all taking advantage by talking to or dating them.

Your league may improve as you gain skill and comfort with women, but you're not there right now. Improving the league you're in won't destroy the relationships you've built in the league you're in now, and won't cause anyone pain unless you start acting like a narcissistic prick to current-leaguers after you raise your game (and with your newly acquired social skills, that should be easy to not do.).

DerpThang · 2015-01-13T04:43:13+00:00

You're either attracted to the girl or you're not. It's either a 1 or a 0. That's how you should view it. Then you can practice talking to girls you like, rather than a certain scale range.

Title	[ADVICE] How Do I Improve Without Being A Piece Of Shit In The Process?
Author	MephistophelesJr
Upvotes	9
Comments	13
Date	January 11, 2015 9:44 PM UTC (11 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
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