Ask Seddit: Do NLP/Language Patterns work?

newaza · 2010-07-26T04:09:06+00:00

it doesn't work for seduction, and it's really creepy. you will not hypnotize or trick a girl into liking you. there are no shortcuts or magic tricks to secretly and easily get women. totally avoid NLP, hypnosis, and any type of tricks if you want to get legitimately good with women. being good with women involves becoming a better version of yourself, and not a creepy hypnotist.

Sublomino · 2010-07-26T01:48:53+00:00

Just watch the I have a dream speech from MLK: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbUtL_0vAJk

He starts by pacing the ongoing situation, then he uses sensory descriptive language to build a vision of a compelling future, one we can see, feel, hear, and taste. He asks us to imagine: by saying "I have a dream" repeatedly, "have a dream" is the embedded command to imagine a new reality. You can't deny that this speech changed the entire reality for black people in America.

If someone came up to you and said that all you need to do in order to end segregation in the south was to give this one speech, with this certain type of language and a certain delivery, at the time it would have seemed ABSOLUTELY FUCKING RIDICULOUS, like OUT OF YOUR MIND FUCKING CRAZY. And yet that reality has come to pass, not completely, there are still some racial tensions in places, but to a very significant degree it ended segregation. It happened because the people who heard the speech went on to live out the vision that was implanted in their minds. "Now is the time, to lift our nation from the quicksand of racial injustice to the solid rock of brotherhood. Now is the time!" Can you hear the tactile language, going from quicksand, to solid rock? You can literally feel it.

niltermini · 2010-07-26T00:07:47+00:00

Not as powerful as they claim, but there are definitely truths. I mean, most of what Ross Jeffries talks about is just basic hypnosis (stacking realities and such) which any stage magician will tell you works. How well it works is dependent on the subject.

NLP is a different matter, there's not a lot of proof that the theory behind it is even legit but if you talk to anyone who 'uses' it, they will tell you that it is insanely powerful. I would fall into the believer category, but it's up to you to decide.

Side note: cold reading games like the cube and strawberry fields are a form of NLP and I have definitely had good experiences with them.

2010-07-26T05:00:14+00:00

In my opinion, it works as well as you believe it does. If you believe 100% that the stuff works and you do it confidently and boldly, then you will get what you wanted. But on the other hand if you are unsure of whether or not it's legit and do with a "half-assed" attitude then you will most likely not get the result you wanted.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a big proponent of any routine based game, but a big reason why a lot of seduction material works is because it's systematized and so some men feel very comfortable with using a system so they go out and meet women with confidence and get laid. What they don't realize is all they really needed was the confidence and the boldness that they had when they ran the routines.

hotsexgary · 2010-07-26T07:08:03+00:00

Yeah dude, it looks silly because it's written down and you know what's happening, but it just mimics the content and delivery when you're really in state and naturally leading a girl into a trance.

okcspecialist · 2010-07-26T20:21:43+00:00

There may be a placebo or hawthorne effect. If you really believe it will work, that may boost your confidence and that may create a self-fulfilling prophecy.

This has been basically discredited by science though. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuro-linguistic_programming

mikedamike · 2010-12-10T20:02:44+00:00

NLP is about learning how your mind works anyways, and it really is the only field that studies the action of how our mind works in reality, not just on a chemical level. In a way NLP is learning how you think & about using the correct thought process consciously.

For seduction; knowing clearly how you work inside, and teaching other people this, could be seen as a DHV no?

2010-07-26T06:03:22+00:00

Done really well (by a master), it can have some effect. Guys fall in love with what they see, women with what they hear. But you're going to waste a lot of time and effort trying to get there that could be better used to become an attractive person. Its just one avenue, just one approach to pickup. NLP seems at its core to be about 'controlling' or 'manipulating' people and this is a weak frame to have.

Title	Ask Seddit: Do NLP/Language Patterns work?
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Date	July 25, 2010 11:41 PM UTC (16 years ago)
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