Being in this sub and just through different experiences made me come to a conclusion that:

  • Yes, looks do matter.
  • Yes, looks is not the only thing that matters.

But now with these two things in mind, you can only do so much to look better without surgery but you’re already put below the good-looking guys no matter how good your game is.

And when I’m saying Good-looking, I’m talking about not being ugly. Because as much all the gurus want to deny it, if she’s not physically attracted to you, it’s almost impossible for any of your game to work on her. It’s like repeatedly shooting at a shield in front of her. None of the attacks are going to have impact.

Now with good-looking guys, they can learn game, they just have to put in the practice. But being unattractive, that’s just it unless you go hardcore and get surgery which might still not be effective. You might find a few girls that might be attracted to you but this is after hundreds of fails and time dedicated to this. And if you have a purpose in life, is this hefty investment for low return really worth it?

Don’t even get me started with online-dating, if you’re not good-looking, don’t even bother. It’s the same way we can look a girl once and decide whether we would smash or not, imagine them doing the same.

These are my conclusions after reviewing many different advice and experiences on here and in real life, there’s always outliers but 1 in a million isn’t exactly helpful rt?

Open to thoughts and rebuttals. Thanks!