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[–]1keentolearn12 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You are playing Russian roulette without protection. Learn how to put on protection quickly
[–]GWARY54 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Always condom. I’ve never had a problem with it nor any problems with breaks etc. if you are going casual or ONS, always condom, every time
[–]LeatherBoundWisdom 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Pleasure is good and fun, but you should never ever allow it to get in the way of the mission.
For me, getting a whore pregnant and her keeping it would be an absolute disaster scenario. It would completely fuck over my mission, part of which is to have and raise good children with a good wife. So I always wear a condom, even if the girl says she has an IUD, in the event she’s lying. Even if the girl says she’s on the pill, which she may be taking inconsistently which makes it much less effective. Even if I pull out, which is difficult to do reliably over time.
I’ve had friends get girls pregnant, they said it was the most stressful and anxious moments of their lives. Now they wear a condom religiously.
If getting a girl pregnant and her keeping it wouldn’t irreparably fuck up your life by your standards, go for it. Otherwise it is never worth risking your life mission to pursue empty pleasure.
[–]Separate_Taste3428 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Pregnancy is the only thing that scares you about not using condoms, bro stds, and sti are still out there. Try fc2
[–]MasterTeacher123 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I’m in a relationship so I’ve been raw dogging since we became exclusive. But before that it was condoms all the way.
One of the most interesting things about dating I’ve observed is how many girls are totally ok with you not using condoms. I would say 8 of the previous 10 girls I slept with prior to my GF wanted me to fuck raw no questions asked, and the 9th one was ok with that after the first time. I turned them down though
[–]INeedAboutTreeFiddy_ 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I've noticed the same things which honestly gives me pause with those girls for multiple reasons..
[–]agileipa 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah because they like it better as well and they don’t want to admit to fucking you. They want the hot passionate story as well. Keep going, pregnancy is the biggest concern
[–]Top-Conversation678 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It feels better for them without condom too so kinda makes sense doesnt it?
[–]Kiernla 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm on BC (implant, so no user error) and still insist on condoms every time for PIV.
[–]norwegiandoggo 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago* (13 children) | Copy Link
You know there are other means of contraception than condoms right?
Pregnancy is one thing, but you didn't mention that condoms also protect against STDs.
How many condom brands have you tried? Have you ever used lube on the inside and outside of the condom? Because there are many things you can do to make condoms more enjoyable.
I always use condoms with casual sex partners. I consider anything else complete idiocy. It's not just about you. It's about everyone. If we all play Russian roulette with condoms then everyone will be walking STD parties.
The numbers you're comparing are also wrong I think. For example for condom use the 98% effectiveness is when fucking a person with a condom for an entire year. But pull out method. Is that for an entire year as well? I doubt it. It's important to compare apples to apples.
And by the way, it's very easy to fuck up doing the pull out method too.
[–]Death_Portal-1 points 4 years ago [recovered] (12 children) | Copy Link
So in real life, about 22 out of 100 people who use withdrawal get pregnant every year
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that means about 15 out of 100 people who use condoms as their only birth control method will get pregnant each year.
Yes, they're both based on annual measurements. Statically speaking you'd have better odds of avoiding pregnancy if you combined a morning after pill with the pull out method vs just using condoms and nothing else.
[–]norwegiandoggo 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
You shouldn't use the morning after pill as a standard method of birth control. It can be really bad for her health. Have they not taught you this in sex Ed?
[–]Erbium-Oxide 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Fellow Norwegian doggo here, did not learn this in sex ed. Thanks.
[–]Death_Portal0 points 4 years ago [recovered] (9 children) | Copy Link
I never said anything about using it as a standard method of birth control. I'm not advocating for using the pull out method as a standard or life long practice of birth control either.
Why are you so obnoxiously condescending? Have you ever received education on etiquette?
[–]norwegiandoggo 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago* (8 children) | Copy Link
The reason I'm being quite cross with you is because the irresponsible behavior you have admitted to doing, also puts us responsible condom users at unescessary risk of STDs. You are a risk not only to yourself, but to your partners and to everyone that enjoys casual sex and happens to sleep with those partners you previously raw-dogged. Disliking condom use is one thing, but your lack of condom use during casual sex is selfish, immature, and frankly appaling. You are putting people like me, who are responsible with condom use and try to avoid STDs, at an additional risk that we don't want.
[–]Separate_Taste3428 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A lot of people feel and talk like stds and sti are nothing to worry about and Sometimes I feel like only a few people keep up with test and protection from The gift that keeps on giving
[–]Death_Portal0 points 4 years ago [recovered] (5 children) | Copy Link
lol that's hilarious. you realize condoms won't completely cover you against shit like hpv right? do you also know that you can get many stds through oral sex as well? i sure hope you're using a dental dam and condoms whenever you get your dick sucked or eat out some hog you picked up at wendy's, otherwise you're a hypocrite.
i guarantee you that you'd never say what you just did to me to those demographics out there that have significantly higher rates of stds than the general population. me? i've never caught anything and i get myself checked out, it's not like i'm out there fucking 100s of girls a year without a condom on. i just do it every once in a while brah.
stay mad friend.
[–]norwegiandoggo 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Your argument is like saying you shouldn't use a seat belt because it's possible to die in a car accident even when you wear a seat belt. I hope you stay Std free.
[–]Death_Portal-1 points 4 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link
rather flawed analogy since there are no sensational benefits to driving without a seatbelt, honestly i don't even notice it's there. can't say the same for condoms.
i doubt nascar drivers talk about the thrill of how they raw dogged without a belt into 8th place.
[–]agileipa -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Exactly correct. Seriously mr norwegiandoggo you need to check your facts and do your research. I have a vasectomy and I fucking hate condoms. I avoid them at all costs. The amount of misinformation out there about std s is insane. I will just finish with oral if a girl is going to insist on a condom. And the fact that she okay with oral sex without a condom but not piv shows how fucked up sex Ed is today. I have fucked a lot of women, probably over 100. I am in my 40s so I lose track. Never had an sti, I have never met anyone or even heard of anyone in my social circle that got an sti. I just got tested because this new girl I am seeing insisted I get tested before we go raw. My dr was very patient with me and explained everything about sti. He asked me if I have any symptoms or sores or fever or painful urinating, blood in urine. I said no to all. He was 100 percent convinced that I was clean. I said I wanted the results. He was frustrated by that and said what do you think you have? I said I don’t know but I hear you can have sti without symptoms. He said like what ? I said hiv. He asked if I was gay or ever been gay or used needles. I said no. He was like the odds of you getting hiv as a heterosexual man are less than.05%. I said herpes. He said herpes transmission without sores or symptoms are insanely low. Less than 1 %. He said everything else is curable with antibiotics and also he explained that sti are fucking painful and people don’t like to have sex when their genitalia are inflamed. He said sti usually come in an outbreak, where lots of people are having sex with lots of other people in a short amount of time before symptoms develop. College campus is perfect example or swinger parties. He also said women between 19 and 25 are the most likely to carry std because they have the most sex. After all this he tested me for everything full blood work and piss test. Few days later everything negative. He said condoms are great for birth control but if you have vasectomy or other methods then check for sores or anything very off in smell or color but he said she will know if she has something. He also said it’s a sad state of sex Ed in USA. People have been so afraid of std s without all the info or facts. So please do your research and check the facts before saying all this bullshit that your fifth grade teacher told you.
[–]AOLGeneration 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I like this doctor of yours. I was a victim of the school sex ed. program of the early-mid nineties. (I'm probably your age.) I wish my doctor dispelled the fear the school put in me. I would have had a lot more sex if I had.
[–]agileipa -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How does it put you at risk ? The logic here is totally stupid. It’s not covid. Look at all the misinformation about masks and covid. Look how many different opinions and facts you have. This is the same bs about condoms. Yeah condoms help against pregnancy but they don’t protect against all std s. You can still get herpes simplex with condoms. Plus the odds of you getting an std are so small it’s insane. Even if you go raw every time. It’s mainly low income, sub 25 year old, women who carry them. And they are usually drug addicts or hookers without access to medication to treat it.
[–]Canadian-Seductioner 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
I always use condoms unless it's a girl I've been seeing regularly. STDs are more common than you think. Once in a while I will slip up though, but when I do, I always ask her if she's clean.
[–]agileipa 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Ha ha ha ha ha and you think she is going to say… nope I am not clean. But good job on asking. Is she isn’t clean you’re going to know.
[–]Canadian-Seductioner 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
? Yes, I don't sleep with ratchet girls who would lie about that sort of thing.
[–]agileipa 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Don’t take this the wrong way. But you don’t know shit about women. And okay play that out. You slipped up and now you’re asking her if she is clean. She just got through fucking you, what difference does it make? She is probably already feeling slutty, of course she is going to say she is clean.
[–]Canadian-Seductioner 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Lmao I see where the misunderstanding is. I said sometimes I slip up with regards to being responsible and wearing a condom, not that the condom slips off 😂
When I know I'm going to go in raw, I'll ask her before anything happens whether she's clean. Not after lol.
Don’t take this the wrong way. But you don’t know shit about women.
Yeah okay bro. I'm over 180 kills so far, I bet you haven't even cracked 10 😂😂😂
[–]agileipa 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Do you want to compare dick sizes next ? Also if you’re keeping track of how many “kills” (very mature) proves to me further how clueless you are. The same argument exists. And I am not confused on anything. You’re saying that in the heat of the moment where you’re about to have sex raw and you’re like “hey are you clean?” You think she is going to be like oh yeah I am clean. Ha ha. You have no idea how std s even work, if she has an std you’re going to fucking know. And guess what else? She is not going to want anything to do with sex. She will shut down sex way way before you get there. So yeah slayer, keep up your strategy and I guarantee you will never ever come across a woman who will ever admit to having an std.
[–]Canadian-Seductioner 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Lmao you sound like you're 12 years old. Don't know what kind of women you're getting with (if any), but go ahead and keep playing russian roulette with your dick. Now kindly please fuck off.
[–]agileipa -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Ha ha I am over 40 my child. Been playing Russian roulette for decades and never got anything. Keep wrapping it up and maybe ask your mom if she is clean because she obviously has passed some shit down to the rest of humanity.
[–]Canadian-Seductioner 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ha ha I am over 40 my child.
Would explain why you keep responding even though I told you to fuck off. Must be getting early onset dementia. You should see a doctor.
Been playing Russian roulette for decades and never got anything.
Pro tip: playing russian roulette with your hand doesn't count.
Keep wrapping it up
Gladly.
maybe ask your mom if she is clean because she obviously has passed some shit down to the rest of humanity.
Oh wait, I take back the dementia comment, you're definitely only 12 years out throwing out "your mom" jokes 😂😂😂
[–]Death_Portal1 points 4 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link
When you slip up and go raw what's the usual circumstances that make you get to that level? Is it about how hot she is, how much you trust her, or something else? Do you just roll with the pull out method and stick with that?
I like to go with pull out method but give her a morning after pill before we fuck just for added protection. Also, I generally feel more comfortable if the girl doesn't know where I live or what my full name is. I figure that most normal women don't want to get knocked up by some random one nighter and would abort something that got through rather than raising a kid who's father she can't track down easily within 9 months.
I think oops babies are more common when the girl knows the guy longer than 24 hours. ONS are for two people who just want to fuck so the girl is less likely to lie and baby trap you.
When you slip up and go raw what's the usual circumstances that make you get to that level? Is it about how hot she is, how much you trust her, or something else?
I guess if it just feels right in the moment, I'm not perfect haha. I'd say trust is the main one though. If I get the feeling she doesn't sleep around too much, then I tend to slip up more (however it's still fairly rare).
Do you just roll with the pull out method and stick with that?
If she's not on birth control, then I won't go raw. Not trying to be a father lol. I always ask if she is beforehand.
I like to go with pull out method but give her a morning after pill before we fuck just for added protection.
I mean, if you like spending the money for the morning after pill each time, then all the power to you. I'd still be worried about STDs though.
Also, I generally feel more comfortable if the girl doesn't know where I live or what my full name is.
Sounds pretty empty to me. I mean, I don't purposefully tell them that stuff, but I wouldn't care if they knew it either. I guess the difference between us is I don't really care if I'm wearing a condom or not because I take the right precautions either way. You seem to want to avoid wearing them at all costs.
I figure that most normal women don't want to get knocked up by some random one nighter
Yes, correct. Hence why many of them want you to wear a condom.
and would abort something that got through rather than raising a kid who's father she can't track down easily within 9 months.
Abortion is never a guarantee when multiple different states make it difficult to get one and lots of women also won't get them for personal or religious reasons anyway so I wouldn't bank on that.
That sounds like a lot of unnecessary stress when all you need to do is wear a condom and you'll be fine.
[–]Death_Portal1 points 4 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
if you like spending the money for the morning after pill each time
Cheaper than a kid.
You seem to want to avoid wearing them at all costs.
Not really, I'll wear one I just can't go my entire life with only condom sex. Don't mind rolling the dice every once in a while.
Hence why many of them want you to wear a condom.
Not my experience at all.
Lol just wear condoms then.
I'm not saying to never go raw. Just take the right precautions. If she seems trustworthy and she says she's clean + on birth control, then roll the dice. If the only girls you're pulling are questionable ones, then that's a whole nother issue in and of itself.
🤷
[–]BatBottleBank 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Always condom
ALWYAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[–]DR-b11 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
I’ll raw dog it occasionally if I trust that the partner is on birth control. I am more concerned about that than STDs. The one std that I am scared of is AIDS which has low transmission for non-anal penetration.
It helps a lot to use a thin condom that fits properly. I’d say it can make sex 3/4 as good as raw.
[–]agileipa 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Bro it’s damn near impossible to get hiv from non anal sex. Think about the anatomy here. Okay let’s say she has hiv untreated and full blown infection. He vaginal fluid is going to be all over your dick. However we already know it’s not transmitted through skin to skin. It has to be her bodily fluid inside your body. This would mean that you would get her vaginal fluid down your urethra and into your body. However that could happen for sure. But let’s not forget about the hot load of fucking sterile semen that is also shooting down your urethra and is biologically programmed to kill anything it touches. It’s not going to happen. You would have to fuck her for a long time and not finish. There are also women out there that are hiv positive because they got it from their gay husband who was taking anal sex. Gets hiv. Gives it to his wife. She gets divorced and is fucking her new husband for a while and then finds out she has hiv. And guess what ? New husband doesn’t have it. It’s just basic anatomy but we are taught that if you don’t wear a condom then you’re hiv positive first time you go raw. It’s fucking lame.
[–]AOLGeneration 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
I've never heard that theory before about "Sterile semen biologically programmed to kill anything it touches." Wishful thinking makes me want to believe that's true. I guess my one question would be wouldn't the semen potentially kill the ovum instead of serving as the vessel for the sperm cells (or at least one sperm cell) to fertilize the ovum?
[–]agileipa 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
So not saying this lady has all the answers or is medically credited. But she does have hiv and makes a lot of great points. Start at about 3 mins in.
https://youtu.be/4zoZERF8SK4
[–]AOLGeneration 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Thanks, agileipa. I wish these statistics were available in the '90's, although I could see HIV/AIDS being too new. Plus, we didn't have the internet (YouTube) where non-professionals (like Jen) could enter their opinion and research. I know it wasn't her motive, but what I take from this is all the intercourse I passed up in the '90's - early 2000's when I was single. I thought I was safe sticking to oral/69-ing, and perhaps I was because I only first heard about HPV after I met and started dating the woman who would become my wife.
No problem. Yeah I was really freaked out because I only slept with 2 girls before I met my wife and I was with her for fifteen years. Got really used to not using condoms. I hate them. Most of the women I have slept with since then. Been about 4 years, have not pushed back. A few have and we tried condoms but it was not good. I was really freaking out that I must have something because how could I have unprotected sex with that many women and not get something because the sex ed I had told me it was inevitable. So when my last girl put a hard stop unless I got tested I was a bit nervous. My dr was awesome and just laid it all out there. HPV is one they don’t have a test for, not for males anyway.
[–]AOLGeneration 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Haha. Two women is the exact number of females I had unprotected sex with (and no STD's or unplanned pregnancies resulted). The rest I attempted to use condoms with, but I had the same poor luck as you. I couldn't get it on without losing my erection or if I did get it on I'd lose it when trying to penetrate since I was bereft of all sensation. On the rare instance where neither Fail #1 nor Fail #2 occurred, the condom would break while thrusting. The women that wanted me to use a condom in the first place invariably offered to do it unprotected by the second or third condom fail! It was as though I gave it the old college try, that was good enough for them, and they said 'fuck the condom.'
[–]agileipa 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah I think if I was younger I could do it or if I was with a really hot girl. They are just not designed for me. And I don’t think girls really like them much either.
[–]AOLGeneration 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No, they don't. And I'm always happy on Reddit when females truthfully express their disdain for condoms.
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