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Title	[deleted by user]
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Upvotes	44
Comments	25
Date	December 29, 2017 7:53 PM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/7mwlcc/new_year_parties_what_are_the_best_approach_to/
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[–]ImJustSo 57 points58 points59 points 8 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

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[–]ImJustSo 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago* (11 children) | Copy Link

Seriously your post and this second comment of yours pisses me off. It's a complete oversimplification of game even if it just your experience, and I don't understand all the upvotes. Hell there's guys out there who get with girls and give advice like "be confident that's all you need" but that oversimplification is not helpful just like your advice of "talk to everyone and have a good time". There's so much crap about "have a good time and girls will flock to your dick," but I know so many guys that actually enjoy their nights out and go home alone most of the time. If guys take your advice it won't work for the vast majority. Have a good time AND talk to girls while having a good time AND make a move in a physical way AND work around obstacles. If you don't do the other important stuff you'll just have a good time and won't get with any girls. I'm pissed coz you're leading many guys with false hopes whether intentionally or not.

[+]ImJustSo -6 points-5 points-4 points 8 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago* (9 children) | Copy Link

I am not one dimensional, and neither are you, so please quit insulting me by suggesting such a thing.

Well I think you did lack important information in your above comment, so I think in that way you were one dimensional at that point in time.

I'm here to help, AND if something is unhelpful I'll disagree and point it out as bad or incomplete information can be damaging.

A guy could see your comment with all the upvotes and think to himself "All I have to do is have a good time and talk to girls to get with girls, maybe it's really that simple!" He goes out, has fun, talks to girls, realises although he's having fun he's also not getting laid or any action at all and see other guys getting with girls, he may go home, beat himself up and think of himself as missing something fundamental and either blame this sub or think of himself as flawed. That's why this kind of unhelpful advice needs to be pointed out to prevent disasters like that happening.

I have purposefully left it incomplete because the meat of his post doesn't compare to other posts on the sub

Well now you're just admitting you're one dimensional ... I think when you saw my post you got defensive and tried to act assertive but said a bunch of contradictory bullshit.

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[–]ImJustSo -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]ImJustSo -2 points-1 points0 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Well I think you did lack important information in your above comment, so I think in that way you were one dimensional at that point in time.

I've already explained why, I won't repeat myself.

I'm here to help, AND if something is unhelpful I'll disagree and point it out as bad or incomplete information can be damaging.

You're being hyperbolic, outlandish, and antagonistic. What I'm realizing now is you just do not like what I stand for, and that's a successful man that succeeds in a way you can't understand apparently.

A guy could see your comment with all the upvotes and think to himself "All I have to do is have a good time and talk to girls to get with girls, maybe it's really that simple!" He goes out, has fun, talks to girls, realises although he's having fun he's also not getting laid or any action at all and see other guys getting with girls, he may go home, beat himself up and think of himself as missing something fundamental and either blame this sub or think of himself as flawed. That's why this kind of unhelpful advice needs to be pointed out to prevent disasters like that happening.

Sounds like your personal problem to me. Sorry your life sucks and you're projecting it onto everyone else's.

Well now you're just admitting you're one dimensional ... I think when you saw my post you got defensive and tried to act assertive but said a bunch of contradictory bullshit.

I haven't admitted anything. You are putting words into my mouth, you're detracting from the words I've actually said, and you're making assumption after assumption. And that's what I'm going to do for you now, because fair is fair. What I see is a man who cannot accept another man's success without comparing it to his own failures. I see a competitive man that sees threats where there are none. And I see a man who's unwilling to work with others towards a common goal. You are attacking me instead of giving advice to others. You're working to disprove me and bring me down. You're a negative person and you're ill behaved. I told you to chill and you've blown everything out of proportion.

I now understand how you can't grasp that my advice was good advice, because my advice would never work for you. You would rather fight with other men at a party than have a good time. You work to lower others, rather than raise them up.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

You're being hyperbolic, outlandish, and antagonistic.

I disagree with hyperbolic. I think to you I come across outlandish. And I agree I am antagonistic.

What I'm realizing now is you just do not like what I stand for, and that's a successful man that succeeds in a way you can't understand apparently.

Yes. You are right. I don't like you and I am envious of you and other guys who get success without putting in some kind of conscious initiative. AND I also think you and other guys who aren't able to articulate your full game can be damaging to guys too. The first point about my envy doesn't negate my empathy for guys who might get damaged by your advice. Both things are true.

Sounds like your personal problem to me. Sorry your life sucks and you're projecting it onto everyone else's.

Getting laid by just having fun and talking to girls is a problem for me. And getting laid regularly without paying for it is also a small problem for me. And I am sure other guys also have this problem as that's why we have a subreddit called /r/seduction and a whole pickup community, for guys who struggle beyond the typical "have fun, talk to girls, be confident" advice and want more choice in their life.

I haven't admitted anything. You are putting words into my mouth, you're detracting from the words I've actually said, and you're making assumption after assumption.

No shit. Except you did say two contradictory things which I quoted above. And also you're still defensive.

And that's what I'm going to do for you now, because fair is fair. What I see is a man who cannot accept another man's success without comparing it to his own failures.

Firstly ... you're wrong. I accept you are successful with women doing what you do (assuming you're honest) and if you're better than me in this domain I don't really care that much.

I believe you do get laid, and I believe you get laid not by just the advice you're giving but by important stuff you intentionally or unintentionally left out regarding actually taking initiative with women and showing desire and making a move. That's what pisses me off, not your success. So get off your high horse and realise I'm not writing all this out of jealousy, I'm writing this out of empathy and compassion for any guy who has taken ambiguous advice to heart and beat themselves up for it not working. That's my personal problem AND it's also a problem of many other guys.

I see a competitive man that sees threats where there are none.

Good one. I am competitive. And I do threats sometimes where there are none. Although in this case I don't see you as a threat I just enjoy conflict.

And I see a man who's unwilling to work with others towards a common goal.

I think you're wrong about this. I am willing to cooperate. I gave my advice above loaded with some anger too, and you got defensive and took what I said as an attack which triggered me to defend myself too. But the advice was there perhaps you didn't catch it coz you were too busy with the tone of my message.

You are attacking me instead of giving advice to others.

I did give some basic advice which covered the main areas but didn't go into specifics. And the truth is since I don't have great results I will refrain from giving detailed advice until I have thought something through that will probably work for majority of guys.

You're working to disprove me and bring me down.

Not really working to disprove you. I wrote a message before which came from the heart and didn't take much work. I'm more working to answer your assumptions now.

You're a negative person and you're ill behaved.

Very true.

I told you to chill and you've blown everything out of proportion.

Yes and you've participated in the blowing up. Takes two to tango.

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