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[–]Kurt_Kobain 9 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
Most idiots who believe "looks don't matter" learn the hard way, when they go out feeling "confident" because they got "game"- only to be brutally rejected, again and again and see good-looking studs showing up and immediately taking girls home with no resort to "PUA" material. Most gurus spread this myth in order to promote and sell their products & services. They must LIE otherwise they will not make profit.
[–]Bojanglo1990 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
With an attitude like yours, it wouldn't matter how good you look. Looks do not matter nearly as much as you think. They do matter, but not the same way they do to males. Women are attracted to people who take care of themselves. Taking care of one's self will make one more physically attractive in some ways, but more than anything it shows that you respect yourself and are able to handle yourself. Kurt_Kobain, I have read a lot of your comments on here. Though I have no understanding of why you are on here, other than to spread your negativity, I encourage you to be more positive and respectful to us and to women.
[–]IWriteForGroupies 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I will say that you are a short term thinker. Looks don't matter, if you have something that is more valuable. I will say that looks are easier to sell, but when you have your life together and other skills, looks do not really matter.
Looks are an indication of health, status, fertility, personality etc etc.
You make me wonder how fat ugly people get married. The sad thing is that this happens all the time. Your theory may work mostly on younger people who are mostly hormonal driven, but when it comes to older more experienced people, this does not apply.
But nowadays, girls are very picky, and social pressure is stronger than ever because of social media etc.
I think you need to understand that women all over the world work differently. There are countries where social media isn't a big thing. If you want to be honest, almost everyone is picky to a certain degree.
People don't wanna be seen with an unattractive mate.
This may be true to a certain point. I don't want to eat nasty food, but I still eat salads.
Now you may or may not pass the test, but at least, you had a chance.
This is stupid. Just because a person looks at you doesn't mean they have a chance. Guy number 1 could have approached and got the girl number while guy number 2 could have done nothing.
Looks are the great enabler, they facilitate opportunities and even create them. They matter, a lot.
Looks are a crutch that some people use as an excuse not to talk to women. Unless you are deformed, looks do not make a different. If you are not super attractive, then you have to be able to make up for it in other ways.
[–]g4casting 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I think most of your comment brings up nothing or misses the point. Yeah fat ugly people get married. Doesn't change the fact that looks tend to bring prejudice. And that nowadays you're likely to be dismissed based on that prejudice alone.
I know that women think differently around the world. Nothing is uniform. This applies to anything but strict sciences. However you have to generalize sometimes to make a point. I'm targeting the audience of r/seduction, to whom it applies. Social media pressure is a thing. Peer pressure is a thing.
And yeah guy 1 vs guy 2, we're assuming the only variable is the way they look, not their actions. Your comment is irrelevant.
Anyway, looks aren't a crutch. Looks is the realest and most observable parameter in attraction. Trying to minimize its impact is straight up hypocrisy.
That's the point of my post. What you're getting at is "you have to take action anyway". I don't disagree, I'm just saying you're out of topic, like a lot of people on Reddit who can't analyze think and argument properly.
[–]IWriteForGroupies 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I know that women think differently around the world.
So you understand me when I say that some women do not look for looks.
Doesn't change the fact that looks tend to bring prejudice.
So what you are telling me is no matter how you much you improve your looks it will not matter because the woman may not like your looks. This is why looks are not important.
And yeah guy 1 vs guy 2, we're assuming the only variable is the way they look, not their actions.
Actually, you are the one assuming the woman is caring about the looks. She may actually be caring about weather the guy is employed and can provide a stable relationship.
Looks is the realest and most observable parameter in attraction.
You are still thinking like a bag or hormones. If people are after one night stands, then looks are everything. If people are after something more stable, then looks aren't everything.
Trying to minimize its impact is straight up hypocrisy.
I am going to put you on something that is real. People age and accidents happen. Some people do not win the genetic lotto. Most people are not 8, 9, or 10's. Looks only matter to people who are hormonally driven. Looks are only a small part of seduction and that is why people say it does not matter.
What you're getting at is "you have to take action anyway".
What I am getting at is simple. You do not have to look good to get with a 9 or 10. You can be unshaved, wild hair and have crazy clothes. Why do you think women go for musicians, nerds, rich people and etc. It is not for looks. It is for the things that are more valuable than looks.
[–]Spaceman7Spiff 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
The thing you learn in game... or more accurately, life in general. Is that NOTHING is black and white. Looks do matter, but often not as much or in the same ways that people generally assume. The other thing I think people will learn is that men and women aren't as different from each other as we want to believe. We ALL want to end up with a smoking hot partner who's also kind, smart and funny and is also great in bed. Honestly, who doesn't want that?! The FIRST thing people notice are looks but Are you going to tell me you've never even considered getting down with a 4 or 5 when she was super cool and DTF? Women are no different... they may have a different set of appearances to keep up, driven mainly by social standards, but the thought process is the same.
[–]Big_TX 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Are you going to tell me you've never even considered getting down with a 4 or 5 when she was super cool and DTF
Defenetly never. That's one of the deferences between men and women when speaking generally.
[–]blackberrydoughnuts 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't understand. You'd turn down sex just because of how someone looks? Most men would not.
[–]msmiitz 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
tldr make shorter.
[–]Big_TX 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's an absolutely terrible way of grazing what they mean. They want to say they arent what determine your success. A less desirable guy with game can get a lot more girls that a hot guy with zero game.
But a hot guy needs much less game. And can make may more mistakes.
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