Does mastering pickup mean getting good at find which girl is attracted to you or getting any girl attracted to you?

effreek · 2021-10-19T16:43:38+00:00

Good question; And it's actually the question that causes the most arguments and is even what nearly all PUA discussion boils down too

I'd say it's more about screening/finding out who's into you as opposed to 'creating' attraction. A certain amount of attraction needs to exist for 'game' to be able to get you to the attraction level required

Take it to the extreme. Imagine you are 65 and fat and bald. You're not rich either. You want to bang the super cute 19 year old girl at the bar. You'd have to be insane if you think that guy isn't gonna get rejected 999 times out of thousand even if he had the best game imaginable. She literally likely has zero sexual attraction to him and he can't change that

I mean, that's an extreme example, but it makes the point and there's only so much that 'game' can help

Physical attraction is the most important thing, but don't forget that different girls have differents tastes when it comes to looks

Think about what we actually have in our arsenal kit with 'game'. Attraction material in 'game' consists of negs, cold reads, DHV stories, self amusement, good body langauge and a few other things

And it can all be learnt within an hour, tbh. Everyone here should know all of that stuff and be using it. And so everyone here should sort of know how effective or ineffective it actually is

But i'd say the best game in the world can give you an extra point. Maybe. So taking you from a 4 too a 5. And depending on the girl and her particular tastes etc, that might well be nowhere near enough to get her naked

So long story short, nobody can create sexual attraction in any girl they want. Only coaches trying to take your money say that

Another thing is that if you watch infields from the pros, it confirms everything i said above (they get rejected loads despite their knowledge. They can never pull the girls who clearly aren't receptive to the open. And they are good at banging the girls who seem somewhat into them early in the interaction)

tellythesloot · 2021-10-19T15:54:44+00:00

Attraction comes two ways. Initial attraction and created attraction. If someone is initially attracted to you but comes to realize you're a total jerkoff then it disappears. If you meet a stranger and entice them to see the things in you that they want in their life, that's seduction and it's created attraction. Mastering pick up means creating attraction where there is little to none and becoming so convincing that you see success at creating appeal. Being born with attractive looks doesn't take skill

handiball · 2021-10-19T16:53:50+00:00

mastering pickup is about closing with the vast majority of girls who are into you. Escalating smoothly, maintaining the attraction etc

I don't believe anyone can 'seduce' a girl if he's not her type. Same as a girl who i'm not at all attracted too can't 'seduce' me

Certainly not a single PUA who we are familiar with has shown the ability to do so (I own literally every premium product in existence lol)

inquizkp · 2021-10-19T16:57:19+00:00

Mark Manson says there are 'yes girl', 'no girls', and 'maybe girls' and that the 'no girls' are impossible to get. You literally can't get them girls sexually attracted. They're simply not into you.

Depending on various things about you, the number of 'no girls' you approach will be huge or tiny

He says game is played on the 'yes girls' and 'maybe girls'

PuroPincheGains · 2021-10-19T17:24:55+00:00

Mostly the first one. Outer game could be defined as capitalizing on the opportunities you identify. However, Inner game is important because it increases the odds that someone will like you in the first place. That means you'll notice more women like you by default because you take care of yourself and pursue hobbies and passions. Inner game is the bait, outer game is your fishing skills and technique. Some fish just ate, some prefer minnows to worms, but none of it matters if you don't know how to tell that there's a fish on the line, or if you don't know how to reel it in.

humptyone · 2021-10-19T19:40:00+00:00

Be you. Be real. This is what breaks up a lot of relationships. When the other person figures out everything was just a practiced line. Be honest, be truthful.the person you're looking for will admire those traits.

Calamity__Bane · 2021-10-20T02:29:38+00:00

It means being able to increase the pool of yeses and maybes, filter out the nos, and capitalize on the rest.

Title	Does mastering pickup mean getting good at find which girl is attracted to you or getting any girl attracted to you?
Author	simple_erudite
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Date	October 19, 2021 3:35 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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