Original thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/gktm3/fr_the_cougar_and_the_stripper_2_closes_and_1/

TL;DR Didn't F-close, but made observable progress and increased her interest.

So, after multiple postponements due to a lot of family-related drama, the stripper ended up meeting us for crawfish last night and informed me that she wasn't planning on going into work. She mentioned that she wanted to smoke because of the stress from her day, so I convinced her to follow me back to my place where I could offer.

Before I continue, I'll interject: Having been involved in a bad break-up with her ex of 4-years and having him accuse her of slutting around since the break-up two weeks ago (which she assures me that she hasn't hooked up with anyone, let alone kiss them. I'm not 100% convinced), she has a lot of barriers up. I broke down some of those barriers Wednesday night when she first came over, so she was definitely more comfortable with me. I really wanted to F-close her last night, but I knew she would be putting up MASSIVE resistence to it that I really didn't attribute to lack of interest.

Now, on a side note, if you're a stoner, especially in the South, if you "have weed", you generally don't mind sharing it. So, we get back to my place, I get her on my bed and we start smoking. She mentions to me that she would really like to buy some off me, but I don't sell it. So, I offered a trade. She was quite a bit taken uncertain about it, but I basically offered to go down on her. She lit up. She said she would but apologized that she was on her period (she did indeed have a lot of tampons in her purse). I know this is an excuse, so I was still rather skeptical.

Now, I basically switched it up and said "fine. I'll take a serious kiss then". Now, up until this point, she refused to kiss with tongue, not only because her ex was a terrible kisser, but also because she didn't know if she was ready to get back into being interested in other guys again. So, I basically told her that I am a phenomenal kisser and how would she know if she was ready or not until she actually tried kissing. I told her that she owed it to herself to at least give it a shot and I wouldn't be offended if she wasn't into it. I also said that I would be 100% honest with her and tell her if she was good or not, even if she was terrible. So, it seemed like she had a bit of a revelation and said "you know, what? you're right. I do owe it to myself to at least try". So, it was pretty easy from there and I even convinced her to get into a mindset to let herself go and really enjoy herself for the first time in a while.

The kiss she gave me Wednesday night was w/out tongue for the same barrier-related reasons, but last night she dropped that barrier and went all for it. I started kissing around her neck, resisting going for the kiss as long as I could until she asked me to kiss her.

We ended up kissing for about 10 seconds or so, but made out two more times later that night before she left. As I was walking her out, she mentioned that I should come visit her at her place, asking me when I was off work today and asked me to call her when I was done, asking me what my schedule was like this week...

She ended up calling me on her way home and I had a half-sleep, half-high short conversation where I think she told me that she really liked me, but I expressed my concern about her intentions and told her that I wasn't sure about her just yet. She had to then take another call from her sister, so I didn't hear from her again last night.

I am definitely not calling her when I get off work. I may not even call her today and just wait for her to call/text me. If she's smart, she'll realize I'm a little uncomfortable with the situation and she'll reach out to me.

Overall Obviously because of her profession, recent break-up and family drama I am taking everything with a grain of salt. Not exactly investing much, but I was pretty surprised with her sense of responsibility. Every time something came up that postponed her arrival at the boil, she would call me to let me know, which is pretty unusual. Typically, if a girl is a straight-up flake, like most girls in her position are, she won't bother to call, so you're just left wondering what was up.

Before you say anything, here are a few things I'm aware of, which contributed to my skepticism:

  1. She may just be using me for weed. Sure she could act like she's giving resistance to fucking, and hell, even kissing just for more weed. I will never give her money (even when she asked me for two dollars when she was in her car, I told her no).

  2. She may be trying to set me up to go back to the club. This idea has started to shrink, because she has never even mentioned it in the time we've spent talking. And I asked twice if she was that type of girl, though she admitted she knew girls that did that.

  3. Because of the break-up with her ex and the fact that she has a kid with him definitely complicates things that could lead to a rebound-effect or asking me for financial support, which I will not give.

  4. I will not be returning to the club at all as long as I'm talking to her. However, if things continue to progress and I end up fucking her, I might decide to go back, since things have changed quite a bit.

  5. She definitely does not come off as a typical stripper. I know this is a very cliche thing to say, because it's their job to seem interested in guys, but I have a pretty good spider-sense when something is afoot. She definitely seems to have pretty strong morals and standards, which surprised me.

Edit now that I think about it, she made it a point to mention to me that she'll be getting back on her birth control shot next week. Soo... That's a good indicator.

Edit 2 On a side note, I'll be setting up a date with the cougar either for tonight or tomorrow night and most definitely going to F-close and have a report the next day.