I registered on a pickup forum recently where I posted a FR.

The advice I recieved just seemed very wishy-washy. Lots of telling me what I done WRONG, but no tangible advice that I could confidently implelent going forward.

Basically I opened a girl. Introudced myself. Made a comment on something happening around us. Asked her name and her age. Asked her where she'd been. We spoke about that for a few minutes and then when I told her she was hot she said ''Sorry, im' not intertested''. No harm done.

The general advice was lke :

"Don't ask a girl how old she is or what she's drinking, or who she's with etc. Who cares about that shit?!! Ask he something you want to know about!"

I'm not really sure WHAT i want to know about her! I just find her attractive and want to see if she's fun and cool. Am I supposed to literally say ''are you fun and cool?'' I mean, I thought it was OK to just make small talk etc as a way to gage her persaonlity?

So , I don't know what I AM supposed to talk about with girls I open in bars.

More 'advice':

''if you see a girl you like, really pursue her, get intimate with her, get sexy. be in the moment and feel the vibe''

Again, not sure how helfpful this is? Obviously I'd like to get intimate and sexy with a hot girl, but it's not only my choice, is it? Am I supposed to just go up to girls and grind on them or something?

If I ask these questions on the forum I get accused of 'trolling' which I certainly am NOT! I just don't get it.

Everyone seems to offer vague advice and tells peopel what NOT to say, but offers nothing in the way of ideas of what to actualy say/do

So is the advice just nonsense or am I being a moron. If the latter, please break it down for me like i'm 5 and tell me what I AM suppsoed to say/talk about when i approach a girl at night.