Hey guys. Used to be an avid user of this sub in my younger days, and just kinda got back to it and just wanna share some words of experience for beginners. Like a lot of you I was very socially awkward. I wanted to join the crowd and be liked, but didn't understand how to fit in, and definitely didn't understand how to talk to girls. Hell based on my success rate most people would think I still dont. But anyway back to my point.

I think that a lot of us, the first advice we get here that sticks is to devalue women. When you come from a lifetime of putting a very high value on women, it seems to make perfect sense. This is the reason you've been so nervous, this is the reason you couldn't close. And I will say that part of that is true. It's hard to focus and have confidence to approach when you put someone on a pedestal. But I want to caution you about undervaluing women. Or rather, undervaluing people.

I see a lot of new beginners who hear "devalue women" and begin to horsehoe all the way to the other side where they have no respect for women at all. Sure take the pussy off the pedestal, but don't throw it into the dirt and stomp your boot on it. You're horseshoing. You've been one way so long that now you're trying to overdue this new direction your going. It's like your in a powerslide and overcorrecting.

The idea that you should take the pussy off the pedestal is true. The idea that women or people in general want what they can't have is true. The idea that people always want to do better than themselves is true. But overcorrecting for these truths doesn't help anything. Instead of being that guy at the bar who was too shy and went home alone, now you're that asshole that everyone wishes would leave. You're still going home alone, just with the delusional notion in your mind that "all those girls are sluts who just want a dude with [Insert quality you don't have]" Either way your still jerking off to 4k porn when you get home.

Find a balance and learn how to properly value women. Are they goddesses? No. Are they maggots? No. They're people. Treat them as such and work accordingly. If you don't have any respect for a person, you can never really love them. And that's kind of the end goal right?

Anyway thats all I have to say for righr now. Devaluing women can definitely have short term benefits as far as getting laid goes. But overdoing it and undervaluing women can have long term negative effects on your relationship and how you percieve people, at least in my experience.