Sometimes I think it's all about 'frame'. ​I don't necessarily mean 'frame' in the same context that PUA's talk about it, but more like having a strong identity WHATEVER THAT IDENTITY MAY BE. ​The girl knows what kind of guy you are straight away. ​There's not confusion. It's like a way of self-screening

​It's like, I know people who do very well with girls, and they all break so many rules of pickup and do things technically 'wrong' and all do things very different, but they tend to have one thing in common ; they are almost caricatures of a certain personality.

​One of my friends is the super sexual guy who is an outrageous flirt. Sexualises everything and tells girls that they are getting him hard etc etc straight off the bat. He gets rejected a fair bit, but he also gets laid a boat load. Girls know he's a 'sure thing'. He seems to break every singly rule in the mysterymethod for example.

​Another friend seems to have a slightly different frame. Less sexual, but his whole game seems to revolve around accusing girls of liking him. He basically plays the 'role' of the guy who thinks he's the most handsome guy in the world, even though he's only a little over average. His whole game is ''why do you like me so much?'' (even when the girl hasn't shown any interest)etc. He doesn't seem to show his own interest in the girl like the guy above does. Girls know he's a cocky dude who fancies himself

​Another friends almost plays the nerd card! Admittedly he doesn't do great in bars (although he doesn't do bad) but he gets laid lots with social circle. His whole game is completely different from the other two. His whole game is one of self-deprication, but in a jokey way. Every girl knows straight way that this guy is the nerd who's comfortable in his own skin

​​I'm yet to find me way - I wonder if we just need to decide on a 'frame' or 'character' and own it. It's confusing how people can do very different things but alll make it work. I guess this idea of frame/identity could explain it somewhat

Do any of you feel as though you fit into one of these types (or even one i've not mentioned) in terms of your game?