This isn't one of them 'lookism' posts where some aspie thinks you need to look like a male model to have a shot at getting laid with a whale. (I'm ugly and i've banged a fair few girls, as well as a few hotties!)

But i'm curious as in my years in the game, some thousands of approaches, and many nights out with both good looking friends, ugly friends, friends with 'game', and every combination I can think of so far seems to imply that she really needs to think that you are good looking in order for your 'game' to even have an effect?

Like, without the physical attraction, the interaction will always be platonic from her point of view, no matter how good your game is, how funny you are, how many times you neg her, no matter your DHV stories etc etc.

It got me thinking about various PUA's.

JulienRSD is considered one of the best there is, yet he 'still gets rejected all the time'' (his own words).

If his game is so good and it 'works', i'm not sure why he isn't able to pull just about every girl he approaches! He's running his game that he's perfected. It's Not like he's making massive errors on the occasions when he get's rejected. He basically always does everything 'right'

My theory is that he's getting rejected by the girls who don't think he's good looking!

People use TylerRSD in arguments about looks. Firstly i'd say that he's isn't 'ugly' at all, to be honest! Especially when he was in somewhat decent shape. Always made me feel bad when people called him ugly, because he's lots better looking than me! I'd kill for his normal sized nose for one thing! haha

The standard of girls he's having some luck with in his infields isn't that high anymore yet his game has presumably got better. He also seems to have lots of interactions that remain platonic, even with girls saying 'there's no way i'm gonna kiss you just so you know!!'' when he starts trying to get close to them and initiate a kiss and then it turns into a silly, playful interaction that never leads to anything. Was he having more success with hotter and younger girls before because he was slimmer and had a little more hair? (better looking lol)

Basically, how can we be sure that when someone gets laid from a cold approach, it's NOT because she thinks he's handsome?

Finally, I want to mention personal preference because i feel it's important and might also explain how some people might sometimes be able to bang a hot girl despite being ugly (like I have done).

Some girls out there have odd taste. I know a hot girl who thinks Jamie vardy is like a 9/10 in looks whereas all of her friends laugh at her and say he's a 5/10. If Jamie Vardy WASN'T famous, he'd still be able to pull that hot girl (because she thinks he's super handsome) yet people would assume ''he must have sick game because there's no way that she thinks he's handsome!!''

Basically, I very much believe in game, but I see it as a way to help you NOT completely mess up with a girl who thinks you'are handsome. I don't see game as something you can do/say/behave in order to make a girl sexually attracted to you. I feel like no amount of teasing/DHV stories/palm reading routines/qualification questions/disqualifying yourself etc etc can do anything to make a girl want to have sex with you if she thinks you are a bit ugly, basically.