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Proof that status has nothing to do with seduction

OGthelegendaryplaya

March 15, 2018

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Title	Proof that status has nothing to do with seduction
Author	OGthelegendaryplaya
Upvotes	0
Comments	21
Date	March 15, 2018 11:50 PM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/84r6v1/proof_that_status_has_nothing_to_do_with_seduction/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/seduction/proof-that-status-has-nothing-to-do-with-seduction.1443199 https://theredarchive.com/post/1443199

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[–]Aeon199 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

[–]AruSharma04 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]Aeon199 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]OGthelegendaryplaya[S] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

[–]Aeon199 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

[–]OGthelegendaryplaya[S] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

[–]Aeon199 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

[–]OGthelegendaryplaya[S] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]Aeon199 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]BarbarianLH 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This guy does not care about you, and there are far more people out there who can give you solid advice about your situation for free, this guy is just in it for the money, and I doubt he has any real skill surrounding the matter of how to seduce women.

The guy was acting like he was from the hood, treatening to beat me up, saying he went to jail for beating up people and asking where i live so he could come and visit, which is the literally the most pathethic attempt at bluffing I have ever seen in my life, of course I told him where i lived, and still he has not attempted to honor his words. Also the guy claimed he was "twice my size" and was lifting for 17 years, I just asked to show proof, at least show his face, If he would not comply, he would proof he is a coward, which he clearly is, for I havent seen any evidence whatsoever. He knows he cannot show his face, because it would prove he is a liar, and nobody would pay for his shitty scam.

Furthermore this guy is a homophobe, and seems to have little to none of a moral compase, it will make sure that every new post of him ,that advertises his scam, will have a warning from me on it

[–]DrBalance 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Dude. If you have enough money to do so, take a trip to Thailand. Wherever you are in the world it would only run you $1000 at the most for plane tickets and the rest of your expenses for a couple of weeks. You might be able to get some reference experiences there that shatter your beliefs. I'd meet you there and try to help you if you could get there during mid April.

I'm not talking about paying anyone either. In Thailand you pretty much just be white and turn up. The girls are for some reason obsessed with white guys.

Every time I've been there it's been about 3 years equivalent of the girls/sex I'd get back home, packed into 2-3 weeks.

I can go into more detail if you want, but basically last weekend I set up tinder, paid for boost, set my location to Bangkok and swiped until my finger fell off. The next day I looked at my phone and had 140+ matches. At least half would be under 26, very attractive, university educated and/or not poor looking. Several of them say they really want to meet me after only a few messages. Or they'll be really forward and assertive like I ask 'are you a photographer' and she says 'no, but I take photo of you and me together'.

And as you can gather from my mostly lack of success, it isn't like this back home, but I know from what goes on there, what is possible. Like you actually can meet a hot girl with a slim, tight body, and have her in your bed in an hour, and there really aren't any catches at all. I didn't really believe a lot of field reports here until after I'd been there and it happened about 3 times in 1 holiday.

It doesn't translate into success back home just because it happens there, but you realise that the girls back home are doing that with someone.. so if you can work your way in to that system..

[–]Aeon199 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Dude. If you have enough money to do so, take a trip to Thailand. Wherever you are in the world it would only run you $1000 at the most for plane tickets and the rest of your expenses for a couple of weeks. You might be able to get some reference experiences there that shatter your beliefs. I'd meet you there and try to help you if you could get there during mid April.

I'm not talking about paying anyone either. In Thailand you pretty much just be white and turn up. The girls are for some reason obsessed with white guys.

I believe there is definitely some truth to this.

My friend however years ago, went to Vietnam. My friend is white as hell, but also short and fat. He did not have ONE sexual encounter either. He told me prostitutes were everywhere, although he didn't use those services. But I'm telling you, for my friend, it was not what you're saying.

And as you can gather from my mostly lack of success, it isn't like this back home, but I know from what goes on there, what is possible. Like you actually can meet a hot girl with a slim, tight body, and have her in your bed in an hour, and there really aren't any catches at all. I didn't really believe a lot of field reports here until after I'd been there and it happened about 3 times in 1 holiday.

I'm not too educated on the subject but my cynical suspicion is the "catch" is they may associate Western men with wealth. I often hear this: "a lot of them want to leave for a better country, etc" but I'm not sure where/how that figures in to the equation.

I'm guessing it probably wouldn't matter what my job is to them, although I still wonder whether they have an unspoken belief that a Western guy must be "successful by default" or something.

Not saying I would turn down opportunities or anything, just pondering on it.

I don't think I'll be going there any time soon, for what it's worth, for various reasons.

[–]DrBalance 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Vietnam is a completely different ball game, far more closed off to the world and western media, and much more conservative. It would take some real game to get far there, though I am going to try my luck next month after Thailand. Most girls in Vietnam will live with their families until they get married, holding hands in public is too much, they mostly purely want marriage once they're about 23 or older. As an example, the law says a Vietnamese girl can't go into a hotel room with a foreigner without a marriage certificate being recorded. (there are hotels that somehow get around this, but even large chains don't allow you to bring one in, no matter what bribe you offer). And even having alcohol or being seen in a bar, that's like having a big 'slut' sign painted on their forehead.

Thailand though - technically they are meant to get married as well depending on their religion, but that's more of an 'on paper' thing there. The long distance Thai girl I had going for a few years had no qualms about sleeping with me on the 2nd date, and even though she wasn't rich at all, she barely let me open my own wallet every time I visited her. I was quite clear from the start that I didn't want it to be a commited relationship or bring her to Australia. She seemed very physically attracted to me, despite me being about 30 and a bit chubby over those years, and she was 21-23 so had plenty of options around, most of them richer than me. Also I gave her the impression I was poor, almost on purpose just to test whether it mattered to her.

Most/all aren't really looking for money directly. It is just western status, yes. They envy our lifestyle or whatever their idea of it is - college, mcdonalds, Friends on TV, I don't even really know what they think. Women will chase successful 'businessmen' anywhere not directly for the money, but the success and status they see in them. Same thing.

[–]Aeon199 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Most/all aren't really looking for money directly. It is just western status, yes. They envy our lifestyle or whatever their idea of it is - college, mcdonalds, Friends on TV, I don't even really know what they think. Women will chase successful 'businessmen' anywhere not directly for the money, but the success and status they see in them. Same thing.

Would you go far enough to "guarantee" I would get non-paid action in Thailand (presuming I'm "average looking" at least, and well-kempt. I believe my looks hover around average in general, but it's hard to know for sure.)

Either way, even though I wouldn't turn down a good chance, the implication is still a bit troubling. The explanation you have still supports the concept that a man cannot be attractive for what he is or his own passionate interests, but first and foremost what he has or what status he has.

When is it ever about a guy being himself, minus the concept of status? Does such a thing exist?

You could flip it around to say something about "when is a woman about herself, without the concept of looks" and then it could be argued I'm a hypocrite.

But if you're going with that, you'd also be using the reductive "man's status directly equates to a woman's look" which isn't always the case... er, right?

[–]DrBalance 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I can't guarantee it, but I haven't got laid for about 4 years back home, but every time in Thailand 2-3 girls in a few weeks. So I feel like I'm going from about generally being a 3/10 to a 7/10 at least just through this cultural/location shift.

You could download ThaiFriendly, set your location to Bangkok, put up a few good pictures and see if any girls start contacting you. You can pretty much just pretend you're already there. I'm 31 and getting 18-26 year olds saying 'I really hope you meet me when you're here', and calling me 'handsome', who knows if they really think that but they know I'm only there on holiday and not looking for someone to give a visa to.

The girls I have hooked up with there did actually enjoy hanging out with me. We did actually have fun, it wasn't just going straight to hotel rooms.

The thing is I can't even be that great status wise. I don't mention my job in my profile, and there are older guys who have probably 1-2 houses or big businesses under their belt. Surely these girls even after they realise I'm a low level IT worker would run away if that actually mattered.

[–]Aeon199 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The thing is I can't even be that great status wise. I don't mention my job in my profile, and there are older guys who have probably 1-2 houses or big businesses under their belt. Surely these girls even after they realise I'm a low level IT worker would run away if that actually mattered.

I didn't just mean overseas. And you're talking about the wrong thing. "Western status" is high status overseas even if you're unemployed.

The point I had was more generalized. Is it always about status? if it's not western status in the far east, does it have to be conventional status (social connections and money) locally? Must there always be status to get action--with direct translation to looks in the women you can access?

Is it always like that? Everywhere?

If not, what's the way around it? I don't think I can travel overseas. I don't want to pay escorts locally. I cannot improve status much if at all. Is there a way around it esp. on a local level?

[–]DrBalance 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Cold approach is about shortcutting the social proof and status. It's sort of completely faking it - giving the impression that you're high status because if you didn't then you wouldn't be confident enough to meet her and show intent. How you dress and look plays some part in the overall impression. Many girls I've been with never knew much about my relatively small friends circle early on, so they never would have thought I was some leader, alpha or anything like that. Maybe to some girls in particular 'status' is less important than other factors. Some just want a quiet guy who treats them nice. They just super like you for no particular reason.

You just have to burn it to the ground, by that I mean admit you suck, admit you're starting from zero, and get out there. Just tell yourself, 'what have I got to lose'? This is all I did over the last couple of months for a big shift in mindset and not giving a fuck. Yes it's awkward some of the time, but less so as time goes on. Get rid of the ideas that you're going to be slapped, ridiculed, drinks thrown in your face. The worst I've had is a girl just staring at me as if she didn't hear what I'd said, then just walking away as I started to repeat myself. So what? I barely remember what she looks like now.

You must be able to make some progress in learning how to socialise. You can't just be at zero and that's it, no possible improvement at all. You don't have to be the life of the party to the right girls, either. I'll never be a loud guy who everyone crowds around to listen to a story he's telling. So there's some girls I'll never get near, but why worry. There are going to be others for sure.

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